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Can they stoop any lower? Surely this is inhuman?

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Touchwood2654 · 09/10/2026 10:25

From The Washington Post

Can they stoop any lower? Surely this is inhuman?
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DistantEarlyWarning · 09/10/2026 12:02

HangryBrickShark · 09/10/2026 10:46

I don't really care. My sympathy is with the victims of those on death row. People go on about how unfair it is to put people to death, its inhumane, etc, etc.

What about the poor victims that have been raped, mutilated, tortured and everything in between? Young children and babies who are murdered? Teenagers who are violated and tortured?

Wanting revenge for loved ones is human, but nothing can bring them back.

There’s no evidence the death penalty is a deterrent, and state-sanctioned planned killing is barbaric.

OtterlyAstounding · 09/10/2026 12:02

Dontcallmescarface · 09/10/2026 11:02

I believe it was Ghandi ( although I may be wrong), who said " if you take an eye for an eye, the whole world would become blind". Executions don't deter criminals and will never bring the victims back so what's the point, it just becomes a revenge killing.

Entirely tangential, but I wouldn't use Gandhi for moral guidance.

[W]hen he was in his 70s and close to leading India to independence, he encouraged his 17-year-old great-niece, Manu, to be naked during her “nightly cuddles” with him. After sacking several long-standing and loyal members of his 100-strong personal entourage who might disapprove of this part of his spiritual quest, Gandhi began sleeping naked with Manu and other young women. He told a woman on one occasion: “Despite my best efforts, the organ remained aroused. It was an altogether strange and shameful experience.”

faculty.som.yale.edu/jameschoi/gandhi-the-non-saint/

FiveEightNine · 09/10/2026 12:04

Public streaming of an execution by firing squad is a step away from a functioning human civilisation. Normalising a violent death for anyone who is inclined to watch it.

I'm not discussing death sentence as such, the medically correctly administered one is/would be something very different from what they are planning now.

ThunderThunderThunderThunderCats · 09/10/2026 12:07

Looks like the most likely doomsday scenario will be Idiocracy then.

Zimunya · 09/10/2026 12:07

DistantEarlyWarning · 09/10/2026 12:02

Wanting revenge for loved ones is human, but nothing can bring them back.

There’s no evidence the death penalty is a deterrent, and state-sanctioned planned killing is barbaric.

"There is no evidence the death penalty is a deterrent....."

This is mainly because we can't count what didn't happen. It may not be a deterrent to other people, but it most certainly is for the original perpertrator.

peppy23 · 09/10/2026 12:07

cardibach · 09/10/2026 11:43

I fundamentally disagree with the death penalty, but if it were just that I could maybe see (while not agreeing with) your point. But live streaming it? You’re really ok with that?

I just can’t get worked up about it, maybe that makes me an awful person I don’t know. Also you have to remember who he’s trying to appeal to.. there will no doubt be some people in America who would love to tune in to this.

America is incredibly backwards for a developed country. I don’t see that changing anytime soon.

Do I agree with live streaming it? No, do I care enough about it to give it any more thought than that? Also no.

ThreadGuardDog · 09/10/2026 12:09

ThunderThunderThunderThunderCats · 09/10/2026 12:07

Looks like the most likely doomsday scenario will be Idiocracy then.

The USA already have that with Trump in charge.

smooththecat · 09/10/2026 12:10

I should think that streaming somebody being executed will be against the policy of any platform involved. May be an interesting moment for tech. I doubt it will go ahead, it’s just bluster and desperation, their government is finally falling to bits.

OffTheMap · 09/10/2026 12:11

Enabling / encouraging citizens to watch someone shot to death simply cannot be healthy.

The damage to the victims is done. Spreading the damage by making death a spectator event cannot be right.

I do not agree with the death penalty: I do not want the benchmark for my values and decisions to be set by murderers, rapists, torturers. ‘Thou shalt not kill’ (if you like) is the big moral dividing line between me and a murderer and I will not be dragged over the line.

placemats · 09/10/2026 12:12

Everyinch · 09/10/2026 10:51

Live by the sword ...

Killing people is only wrong if you kill first. If you choose to live beyond societal norms that's the risk you take.

The death penalty isn't within societal norms no more than murder is.

There would be hundreds of men murdered by the UK each week if the death penalty was reinstated on your terms.

BeardofHagrid · 09/10/2026 12:16

May we normalise not sticking our noses into other countries’ judicial processes. We don’t like it when they do it to us.

LoisQ · 09/10/2026 12:16

smooththecat · 09/10/2026 12:10

I should think that streaming somebody being executed will be against the policy of any platform involved. May be an interesting moment for tech. I doubt it will go ahead, it’s just bluster and desperation, their government is finally falling to bits.

They will do it on the DOW website

LoisQ · 09/10/2026 12:16

I still am fine with the execution

Noodledog · 09/10/2026 12:20

SharkyBait · 09/10/2026 10:55

It’s not about sympathy for the perpetrator. It’s about live streaming an execution for entertainment value. Do you really want to live in a world where that is seen as acceptable? I couldn’t care less about murderers either, but I don’t believe for a second something like this should be made into a spectacle for the masses.

As a side note, I find the hypocrisy of the USA sickening. They stand in judgement of other countries, throwing their weight around, criticising and acting like the saviours of the world/like they’re in a movie “saving the day”, and yet they are just as backwards as the countries in the Middle East that they condemn. And it’s worse in a lot of ways because they believe themselves as a country to be so forward thinking and progressive. They’re an utter joke as a nation.

It does feel quite ironic that the other country that likes to hold public executions is Iran.

InveterateWineDrinker · 09/10/2026 12:21

There were about 2,500 known judicial executions across the world in 2025, spread (unevenly) across 17 countries. Of those, only two - Iran and Afghanistan - carried any of them out in public.

This isn't even a facsimile for justice. I would have described it ss the crassest, most despicable form of willy-waving by an elected official I could have imagined, but I never actually imagined it.

Noodledog · 09/10/2026 12:21

Gladtohearit · 09/10/2026 11:12

Oh, good. We need this in the UK, Australia, and all western countries in fact. Glad to hear it.

Save the west by destroying western values. Fight Iran by becoming Iran.

AtLeastThreeDrinks · 09/10/2026 12:22

HangryBrickShark · 09/10/2026 10:46

I don't really care. My sympathy is with the victims of those on death row. People go on about how unfair it is to put people to death, its inhumane, etc, etc.

What about the poor victims that have been raped, mutilated, tortured and everything in between? Young children and babies who are murdered? Teenagers who are violated and tortured?

If you object to these things because they’re barbaric then how are you justifying a similar act? Is it unacceptable to kill or not?

Lomonald · 09/10/2026 12:22

LoisQ · 09/10/2026 12:16

They will do it on the DOW website

Probably charge a subscription fee

Shuffletoesxtreme · 09/10/2026 12:22

Supposedly devout Christians slavering over a state sponsored murder. What happened to "thou shalt not kill"?

SerendipityJane · 09/10/2026 12:22

Zimunya · 09/10/2026 12:07

"There is no evidence the death penalty is a deterrent....."

This is mainly because we can't count what didn't happen. It may not be a deterrent to other people, but it most certainly is for the original perpertrator.

Edited

And when you kill the wrong person, the real killer is free to carry on.

As Christie did, when Evans was hanged for Chrisites killings.

smooththecat · 09/10/2026 12:23

LoisQ · 09/10/2026 12:16

They will do it on the DOW website

Yes, but it’s likely that the underlying infrastructure to broadcast is at least partly privately owned or licensed and will have live-streaming execution as a policy violation.

cardibach · 09/10/2026 12:25

Zimunya · 09/10/2026 12:07

"There is no evidence the death penalty is a deterrent....."

This is mainly because we can't count what didn't happen. It may not be a deterrent to other people, but it most certainly is for the original perpertrator.

Edited

No it quite clearly isn’t, or they wouldn’t have committed a murder in a death penalty state. If you mean that perpetrator won’t commit another murder - well no. But incarcerating them in high security conditions will prevent that too.

LoisQ · 09/10/2026 12:25

I'm still fine with him being executed

AgentPidge · 09/10/2026 12:27

It's bread and circuses, like ancient Rome!

Shoot the guy? OK, maybe. But livestream it? Words fail me.

Rubydobydo · 09/10/2026 12:28

BeardofHagrid · 09/10/2026 12:16

May we normalise not sticking our noses into other countries’ judicial processes. We don’t like it when they do it to us.

I do agree. This isn’t our business as it’s another country with their own set of rules. I don’t think the livestream is appropriate, but if they chose to have both a death penalty, carry that publicly by live streaming it, that’s on the conscience of that country and its residents.
If we all looked after our own business -all of it - without involving the public, we’d live a more content life. We elect MPs that are meant to do that wrangling for us.