Can they stoop any lower? Surely this is inhuman?

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From The Washington Post

It is very male.
Very loudly American.

Counterintuitively, it's actually more expensive to have the death penalty because it always follows years of legal appeals as well feeding and sheltering the most expensive type of prisoner (because they need the highest amount of security).

I'm in two minds about the death penalty but it goes without saying that live streaming an execution that will end up being entertainment and gratification for the sickest of the sick is disgusting in every way. And there's probably a lot of people already getting way too excited at the prospect. Plus a lot of people thinking about the amount of money they could make out of it.

I think its hugely damaging to society to effectively exhort people to watch an execution.

Not sure how they square it with denouncing the beheading videos to be honest.
This is condoned by their government. It is still going to be snuff porn for some other twisted men.

Oh, good. We need this in the UK, Australia, and all western countries in fact. Glad to hear it.

Depends if it's pay per view or not. I suspect the more the merrier as far as Trump is concerned.

Any news yet on who is advertising in the intervals ?

Imagine being a supporter of the death penalty now, and trying to convince people that you aren't a sadistic ghoul dressing in the disguise of justice ?

I’m not sure about the DP but live streaming it? How is that in anyone’s interest. I’m scared we’re going back to the Middle Ages or when they used to invite people to watch executions in the town square.

Absolutely agree, the victim always gets lost in these circumstances look at the fuss over the Pikes woman.

I absolutely despair at the state of the world. And the number of people saying this is a good idea!??
You think the general public watching an execution will improve law and order, respect for life?

So remove the notoriety of the death penalty, give them life without parole, and let people remember the victim rather than the criminal.

It is men, wanting a quick fix and not to think too deeply on the consequences.
See also; war.

Its utterly barbaric and shameful that any country pretending to be a modern state would behave this way. I disagree with the death penalty because I do not believe the state should be responsible for killing its citizens. While I can completely understand the desire from the loved ones of the victims to see the death penalty it is not the place of the state to enact that revenge. In any case the death penalty makes no difference to offending rates so clearly is not a deterrent at all.
The current US administration is full of grotesque macho men like Hegseth who act on their most base instincts at all times. This live stream is an example of that.

I strongly oppose the death penalty and think Pete Hegseth should be impeached. However the reason Hasan is a paraplegic is because he was tackled by law enforcement when shooting up Ft. Hood.

the shooting was in 2009. His trial was delayed significantly by military standards, but he was convicted in 2013. He’s been going through appeals since then and the Supreme Court denied a writ of certiorari a few months back. It’s not exceptionally quick.

Hasan has previously announced he awaits his martyrdom. To be honest the spectacle is going to serve his cause, and if it were up to me, he’d rot in Leavenworth. His crime really is horrific.

Added this to my list of how shitty this world is becoming!

Christ, it beggars belief. Live executions as entertainment. America has so absolutely lost its way as a nation.

Very Hunger Games.

It's exactly that. With all the ghouls on the internet watching instead of the crowd. How the USA can call itself a civilised country when they do this is beyond me.

There is definitely an air of "I am a much better person than you because I am thinking of the victims and you obviously love the murderers and rapists" on this thread.

However, it is quite possible to think that the crimes were awful and needless and barbaric AND ALSO think the state should not be in the business of killing people as a routine matter - where does that end, with a heavy dose of "quis custodiet ipsos custodes?" as well.

That's all before we even get to the disgustingly gleeful livestreaming aspect now being touted.

Indeed. I doubt it will actually happen though.
It's Kegsbreath whooping it up for the MAGA crowd ahead of the MidTerms. In itself bad enough.

Better than watching porn, surely ?

Although I suspect for some people this is their porn.

Meh. Live by the sword die by the sword. Shit happens.

I don't think it tracks that finding this horrific is indicative of sympathy for the perpetrators. Believing that a civilised society doesn't kill its citizens, let alone live stream executions for the edification of the masses, doesn't mean your sympathies are with perpetrators of crimes rather than victims. It just means you think there are depths to which governments shouldn't sink.

I also think these executions result in far more attention and sympathy being directed at perpetrators of crimes than a life sentence would. Look at the Christa Pike example - what she did to Colleen Slemmer was unspeakably evil. And had she been sentenced to life in prison, she would have faded into miserable obscurity like she deserved. But instead, she has become an object of public empathy because her botched execution was so horrific that people are naturally revolted by it. And instead of the focus being on Colleen, who deserves to be remembered with grace, there is a raging debate over whether her murderer is being mistreated. It's an absolute fiasco which does no justice to Colleen's memory.

Whatever your personal views on the death penalty, live streaming it is beyond abhorrent but sadly nothing is beyond the depravity that Trump and his minions will stoop to, Hegseth is pathetic, what he’s proposing would , in any other circumstances, be a so called snuff movie and subject to the full force of the law to apprehend those responsible

I thought this was a FB joke when I first read it and had to check it on several reliable sources before I believed it. I’m not a death penalty advocate and most definitely won’t be watching.

Distopia!