Christa Pike -where does she stand legally?

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Just this really. Christ a is obviously being giving life saving treatment at hospital but where does she now stand legally. I suppose she probably has irreversible brain damage so will this not allow a second execution to take place? Is this a cruel and unusual punishment?

[Note from MNHQ - edited your title, OP]

An abusive childhood is really common amongst criminals, especially those who commit heinous offences. It doesn't usually mitigate sentencing, why should it in this case?

Why keep her alive for 30 years? Why not keep going once you start execution? It shows what the US thinks about older women. Won't kill her when younger but once she's 50...

I don't see why 30 year delay and I don't support the death penalty but I think halting half way through inhumane. Even more inhumane.

Ahhh gotcha

And you might think differently if it was a member of your family being executed.
Or you might think differently if it was a wrongly convicted person being executed.
Personally I think we are a far better country than the USA for not having the death penalty.
The law should be above simple revenge for the families of victims.

Too expensive? Too complicated to use? I vaguely recall that at Dignitas its not just one drug, its several. Also, you need to know when/ how much to administer, and to monitor person's vitals - I doubt any of this available in the execution chamber.

Famously, this can happen with hanging too.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Babbacombe_Lee

One of the witnesses was talking on the radio earlier and said Christa was trying to sit up etc and at one point said she felt a burning hot sensation and asked was that normal. The idea of a leading western country doing that to anyone in a “legal” way is absolutely awful, I don’t care what crime they’ve done.

That's always an extensive delay to allow for multiple rounds of appeals before execution. I think the average time on death row is about 20 years

Keeping people on death row for many years before execution isn't unique to women, it happens to the men on death row too.

Yeah, what’s up with that title? 😂

No, it's because pharmaceutical companies won't provide them.

It’s a shocking situation.

As PPs have said, medics are not involved in the administration of the drugs so it’s done by prison officers. In recent years there have been difficulties in obtaining the drugs as the (mostly European) companies who make them won’t supply them for this purpose.

As a result, some States have started reusing the gas chamber. That method is regarded as ‘cruel and inhumane’ by many critics.

I can’t support the death penalty for many, many reasons, including these.

Are you suggesting young women should be entitled to the due process of law? I don't personally agree with the death penalty but its no secret that it's the condemned and their defence team that delay executions by decades due to the tortuous appeals system.

I completely agree. This is horrendous to even read. This is torture, pure and simple.

She committed a horrible act, she killed someone - I would say life in prison is fair enough, lock her up and forget about her. Its not like US can't afford to keep her. But what happened is so barbaric, cruel and fucked up I honestly feel sick.

This fails to mention her second victim and second conviction (a conviction for attempted first degree murder).

she (with the help of an accomplice) attempted to strangle a fellow inmate with a shoe lace.

Well even that shit she was injected with wasn't obviously administered properly. and its not the first time this happened, so how is that even allowed??

We all feel differently about this but we are talking about someone who admitted to the murder and carried a piece of the victims skull around with her - I would think my feelings towards a family member who is capable of doing this would change.

BBC article says “Later, it was discovered that she was repeatedly raped as a toddler by her grandmother's boyfriend.”

I thought it was meant to say Christ on a Bike.

Seriously though it's really shocking. I don't agree with the death penalty but if it's going to be done it needs to be done correctly and as humanely as possible. (I also hate the idea that there is an "audience".)

I'm not a softy who thinks awful crimes should be forgiven but taking someone's life is inherently wrong (unless it's something like essential self defence, for example).

Ghastly. She is barely alive so I anticipate that she will have treatment withdrawn in hospital. I wonder if there will have to be a court hearing about that process though. I'm a solicitor but know barely anything about US law/state law.

I bet her first victim would have swapped the actual torture she went through at Pike's hands for "a burning sensation in her legs". She didn't just "kill" a young women, she murdered her in a particularly cruel and protracted assault.

As I've said above, I don't agree with the death penalty but the efforts to minimise and excuse Pike's crimes are sickening.

State sanctioned murder is barbaric

Which really isn’t the issue. If the state is going to legally kill someone for their crimes then the method should be as quick and painless as possible, it certainly shouldn’t result in the condemned having to be revived and treated in hospital before going through the same thing again. It’s horrific.

I think I prefer this version than what was originally intended as a thread topic...

This 100%.

I did wonder if it was referring to a remark passed during the loaves and fishes miracle.