Perez Hilton **MNHQ adding a content warning for self harm**

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Terrifying to think he has young dc. If this is a mental health episode he could have harmed them too. Did anyone see the livestream?

But it's been well established that he had sepsis a few months ago; that he nearly died; that he said God presented himself to PH in the hospital; that he was then doing Bible readings; and that he was going to move to Miami with the kids, as God told him to sell up.
The sepsis and subsequent psychosis battle explains all of these things far more than substance abuse which has not been mentioned or suggested as having contributed or as something he has ever been involved with

Feel free to browse the internet. Others have speculated that he had sepsis due to drug usage. I don't know the man, don't live with him or near him. I just think what I think and others think it, too. I'm not that invested in it apart from it's a shame that this is all so public. I hope it's not a publicity stunt but I also hope it's not as serious as it's been made to be because I don't like to see anyone suffering.

Oh, for goodness sake. He was head to toe in cuts

@HangingOver is right though.
People have reported being stabbed and not known at the time.

Repeatedly slicing at yourself does not hurt initially. It makes it too easy to keep going. I am speaking from experience.

I have already covered this.

His actions are being repeatedly referred to by a poster as a suicide attempt - IMO they were self harm, and they are being reported as self harm.
He ran the knife over a lot of places.
Some drew blood, some didnt, some cuts will need stitches, some probably won't, but as horrible as it is, you can't call it a suicide attempt with 100% certainty at this point, and it's not particularly approriate to do so.

Self harm is not a pretty sight and the things that people say in moments of extreme duress and distress are not pretty things, but this does not necessarily equate to an intent to die, brutal as it is.

Drug usage yes, but flu drugs, not illegal class As.

What’s your issue exactly, we all know you abhor this man and see this as some performative sick play acting, we get it, you’re at the point of behaving obsessionally as you’re so worried anyone would think it’s anything else/

well I do, and it doesn’t matter how horrible or downplaying your comments are, I will never ever agree with you/

Ok. You seem to be his roommate and know a lot more than anyone else. I'll wait for you to update me re: his vitals, children status etc. Thanks so much!

You are taking this far too personally, and more to the point making this personal.

I dont "abhor" Hilton, that is an overly dramatic description - I think he's a misogynist who has made his career monetising and amplifying the misery and MH issues of others, particularly vulnerable women.
Other than that, i feel nothing about him.

Performative = behaviour designed to be seen but not necessarily effective.
You might not like the use of the word, but it's apt, and i am not the only person to have made the observation.

No I’m not taking it personally. I jus6 have empathy for other humans and can absolutely seperate their behaviour from any pain ans suffering they went through and would never dream of disparaging them.

because that would make me as bad as them, wouldn’t it.

Okay.

his kids were at home when he was self harming, according to a news report just released.

Yes, as someone who used to seriously self harm as a teenager, knife cuts are not that painful, especially if you're in the 'right' state of mind, and the adrenaline rush can be euphoric.

He was clearly in a very bad way and needed help, but I do think the fact that he livestreamed it and didn't do himself life-threatening harm makes it seem more like a 'cry for help' in the midst of a serious mental break, rather than an actual suicide attempt.

Guys, please please don't think I'm disputing whether they're painful in a self-harm/mental health type of scenario. I'm not at all, and quite the opposite (my son was a self-hitter and never seemed in pain initally, so I genuinely understand). Also, my previous posts have stated that was partly what was shocking to me, that he didn't appear to feel any pain, as he almost looked possessed 😢

I was simply responding to the post that only said "Cuts made with sharp things surprisingly don't hurt that much to start with." As a trained chef (altho I don't do that as a job now), I've had knife cuts, and it's a matter of seconds before you feel pain and feel lightheaded seeing the blood. Obviously that is if you are not having a mental health crisis.

Jeeeeez, his sister and kids "fled" from the house moments before the stream began, as it was apparent he was having a crisis. 😞😞

To protect the children, I’m assuming it was before rhe live stream.

Gosh, this vile individual is such a blast from the past, I remember him bullying women online about 15 years ago, making up unkind names for them. Sorry he’s having a mental health episode, even though he is such a vile man.

I'm so sorry to hear that about your son – that's an incredibly distressing thing to have to deal with, as a parent. And yes, fair enough! Now, many years later when I cut myself in the kitchen it definitely hurts quite swiftly, as my mental state is entirely different.

I think it can be very hard for people who haven't self-harmed to understand the mental processes going on beneath the surface, and how the self-harm is perceived by and impacts the person doing it. An ordinary person is shocked and can't comprehend it – it seems horrendous – whereas to me, while it's clearly a serious mental health crisis, what he's actually doing doesn't come across as life-threatening, or like a suicide attempt.

It's upsetting to hear his children were initially present – I hope they have a stable, loving adult to take responsibility of their care. It must have been extremely traumatic.

Yep, and I wonder if them fleeing prompted him to go live, as a cry for help needs someone to hear them.
And I'm hoping his poor sister isn't blaming herself for the self-harming (assuming he started after they left).

I'm sorry you've gone through these things. And other posters too. I'm also glad you've "got through" it, and moved forward.

PH's scenario was obviously extreme ie being live-streamed - but would the extent of the self-harm be considered as being particularly extreme if he had been a regular person alone in his home? I don't want to upset or trigger anyone on here, but I haven't seen or heard of anyone doing anything so disturbing to themselves. (I know people who have used knives to harm their arms and thighs, but PH was on a level that seemed like it wasn't even real. So utterly devastating for anyone close to him. And (having been light-headed for hours after watching it), I can't imagine how anyone watching live must have felt when they realised it was real.

To me, live streaming would be considered his extreme distress... trying to articulate how he was feeling. BTW, I have no idea who he is or his background.

There are a lot of livestreams about where people have taken their own life. One I recall was of a young woman who was relentlessly bullied online... she live streamed her suicide to make a point at her bullies.
What PH did is not new, novel, or unusual.

No, no, I understand - I meant more, the extent of his actual physical self-harm without live streaming , would it be considered as an extreme situation, ie cutting all over his torso, face, legs, buttocks?
Or is this more common than I'd imagined?
Also, I wonder how common this extreme scenario is, if you've never self harmed previously. (I've no idea if PH himself has done)

Oh cmon it is very very rare this happens. You know this. Yes there has been previous isolated incidents but thay does not mean it is common practice.

Absolutely,I can summon up no more than an eye roll. It was very performative.

Thank you.

I don't think the self harm seemed 'extreme' in terms of physical damage (although I am not a doctor), but I do think the fact that he was doing it to his face and other unusual areas (although it seemed not his genitals) while ranting and raving makes it more serious mentally – it illustrates that it's not a harmful, semi-controlled coping mechanism, but rather a mental break/a cry for help that could go too far. The risk is that if he's truly lost touch with reality, there's a chance it could have turned into him inflicting serious wounds.

I do think it seemed very performative in some ways though – the fact that the cuts mostly weren't deep, for instance, and the fact that he livestreamed it. It's ironic that after years of misogynistic, cruel gloating over actresses who had public breakdowns or other issues, he's just had the mother of all breakdowns, livestreamed to the world. I feel terrible for his children and hope he gets well, but I don't have a lot of sympathy for him.