Labour isn't Working - Thread 37

[NoWordForFluffy]

In Nuthatch's absence, I've been asked to start the new thread!

A chat thread for those of us who don't like this Labour government.

"Socialism is the philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy; its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery."

Previous thread: www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5548208-labour-isnt-working-thread-36?page=1

Another giggle:

I’ve realised what’s bothering me: our new PM fancies himself

https://www.thetimes.com/article/8eb6017a-035c-4477-94bc-4fa0b6422eff?shareToken=fbdbfa005910e9a945963359258fd657

Quite likely. But the problem for everyone - inside Labour and outside it - is that Burnham doesn’t appear to have any philosophy at all, apart from ‘what can I say or do that advances the cause of Burnham at this very moment?’

Blair had clear coherent political beliefs beyond his own interests. Burnham has none of that, at least as revealed so far.

So we won’t get consistent government. Whether that’s day-by-day or as the eagerly awaited Ten Year Plan.

I had to laugh when I saw that Millipede had been made foreign secretary. Trump will make mince meat out of him. What on earth made Burnham think that was a good idea?

Probably thought to place him where he’s away a lot….

Poor, Ed - not exactly one of life’s winners, is he?

Milipede is a deliberate choice

It's their way of saying "fuck you" to America. That will come back to haunt all of us.

having said that if JD Vance could cope with David Lammy, I'm sure he'll cope with Millipede and he will do that in a very dignified way. I think.

Fishing license, anyone?

I thought to get him away a lot as Ed is Burnham’s Burnham. Ie what AB was to Starmer. The party like Ed

😂😂😂

As we previously discussed…Obviously too late now, but.

Families who tried to dodge inheritance tax using a controversial scheme could save substantial sums in death duties following a landmark ruling.

One family has knocked an estimated £700,000 off their inheritance tax bill thanks to a home loan scheme after the Court of Appeal rejected a challenge by HMRC.

According to court documents, Leslie Elborne arranged a home loan scheme in 2003 with the aim of removing her £1.8m house from her estate for tax purposes while continuing to live there rent-free.

Thousands of home loan schemes were set up in the 1990s and 2000s, sometimes with the help of reputable wealth managers, to shield families from inheritance tax.

Under the scheme, Ms Elborne sold the property to a trust for the benefit of her children in exchange for a loan note. She then gave this IOU to a second trust, also for the benefit of her children. Because she died in 2011, more than seven years later, this transfer left her estate and was not subject to inheritance tax.

We’ve been reading her past published articles (2019-2023) this morning at work and it’s not good news for Aberdeen, it feels like more of the same. There’s a lot of student politics type stuff in her writing - universal income, four day weeks, and magical new net zero green jobs (where? because they’re not here…) and very little about global climate pragmatism and nothing about de-industrialisation.

@Pacificwave I saw that article as well apparently he said he was knocking on doors of ex gf that he used to kiss !!
She said how does his wife feel about his references to past gf ??

Absolutely.

That’s hilarious. I’ve just realised that Andy Burnham reminds me of a boyfriend of mine when I was much younger - whenever I hear the song “You’re So Vain” it’s that boyfriend I think of 😂

That's hillarous ! They actually called him diaper baby ?
I can't imagine ed in anyway being able to speak to any USA counterparts.
Having said that aside from his zealotry he is also a guy on the make so maybe he will expand his green pockets in the states

Healy can’t tackle welfare can he? it will be the same scenario with the backbenchers as before snd Burnham has already said “no crude cuts”. Which in reality is exactly what is needed.

i reckon the AB honeymoon period will probably be well and truly over even before the Autumn budget.

All the jobs lost and schools closed thanks to Starmer and Reeves 😞

The number of workers in payrolled employment fell another 3,900 in June, according to tax data.

It means Britain has lost 71,500 employees in the past 12 months, and a total of almost 168,000 since Sir Keir Starmer won the 2024 general election.

The scar tissue left by those two idiots…

It hasn't rained for 8 weeks.

A newly elected government with fresh ideas and decent performers might have an extended honeymoon with the voters. But I can’t see it with a smash-and-grab-raid PM who’s only in because his party predecessor was so dismally bad that he had to be chucked out after two years. There’s no possible ‘new dawn’ message because this is
the same party, just under a hasty replacement.

He’s got a month maybe less before the shininess fades for good. And he could easily become a reviled figure very quickly if cynicism sets in.

I also enjoyed that Times piece about Burnham’s physical self-adoration. I really can’t see anything to suggest he’s Manchester’s answer to Hugh Grant (he’s closer to Russell Grant.)

Russell Grant lol.

I knew you’d say that….

@DenizenOfAisleOfShame Russel grant 😂

Haha. She's not wrong.
I love one of the comments - "if he was a lollipop he'd lick himself to death" 😂

I think The Times have got the measure of Burnham from what I've read so far.

Yep.
Then you hear Starmer preening himself and claiming he's done well.

Am I wicked to hope that Millipede gets a good kicking in the jacksy around the globe by world leaders until he's the butt of all jokes internationally?

I think David would approve.

Maybe Burnham is hoping he buggers off to the back benches / retirement because he hates the job!

I think Andy's new name shoud be Russel grant ; RG