Labour isn't Working - Thread 36

[Nuthatch26]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I think it is possible to move to be with immediate family, but you may require a certain amount of money. DH's brother is in NZ so we vaguely looked at visas a while ago.

It's scandalous what we've done to our junior doctors. A friend of mine's junior doctor daughter went to Oz, did some extra training for a couple of years and has now secured a job in the UK, so is heading back.

I’m going to be a bit contrary and say while I agree with Kemi that quotas for the sake of quotas are no good thing, I do think the WLP are right to openly refer to the Boys Club mentality that has pervaded in Downing Street over the last 2 years.

Saying “if you’re good enough you’ll get the job” is too simplistic. Women do face barriers that men simply do not, and it’s not wrong to acknowledge that.

i do agree that women need to push back against the insinuation that confidence etc is a male trait and that women need to behave like men to get ahead.

My friends son aged 29 /trained as doctor/no jobs available here / luckily has also a EU passport so now working in The Netherlands

The boys club is a Labour problem I agree. I think it’s deep within their party and they don’t know how to get where the conservatives are with actual diversity of leaders.

It’s like how many trade unions are very blokey despite how many of their subs are paid by women.

Given that London and the SE pays 45% of the UK’s total income tax - I wish Burnham well with that (I don’t).

This is utterly incomprehensible for me.

Why do we keep recruiting doctors from
overseas and not locally trained?
Is not cheaper long term, when we take into consideration dependents.

Backbencher are already chanting Benefits not Bombs.

He won’t be cutting anything.

I have a feeling he’s walked into a bear pit.

What we have is Starmer - no clear leadership qualities, no charisma.

Now Burnham- all messianic swagger and tight t-shirts.

The pendulum has swung, but what about actually governing?

We’ll have to wait and see.

My DC have the possibility to settle in the USA, where my husband and I cannot follow.

We would all much rather stay together here in England. Of course DH and I are not selfish and we care about them more than ourselves, so if it becomes an overwhelmingly better option, it will happen.

There must be many situations like ours. We put our life’s energy and resources into them. They are well educated, well mannered and disciplined. A country should not want to lose young people like this, but I would imagine there are a raft of folks who think they are “advantaged” and the competition is “unfair” and would be delighted to see them go.

@Nuthatch26 i’ve had the same lovely dream ‘every single one of these policies was rushed and bad’…

Labour need to avoid the rhetoric that there’s a group that needs punishing. One of the key mistakes of the last two years. We need every single person to be incentivised to improve their lives. The south has to pay for the north subtext has to be avoided because it’ll just become the new ‘working people’…

We need every single person to be incentivised to improve their lives.

This! 👆

Spot on, as always 👏

Yep. Vibes won't cut it, which is why Burnham is avoiding scrutiny. Starmer is clearly leaving land mines for him too. Country before party eh.

I think Labour are about to have their Boris Johnson moment.

The news agents last night was fairly scathing about Starmer and Reeves rushing out a DIP that clearly won’t hold and is skimpy on details to shore up some kind of legacy…

Times Radio said it was AI slop and really badly put together. Which sounds bad for defence.

That’s pretty shocking…

Jeez. And Starmer is going to nato with it next week. Embarrassing.

Fitting.

Love this response from Kemi to Andy Burnham. I think she's got the measure of him. 😊

Interesting first test for Burnham.

Support or not, I think he’s not whipping as much too.

Brilliant.

Kemi is so much sharper than the best Labour can field. It’s not really sport….

Speaking of first tests, I am told - reliably - that BA will be making a renewed diplomatic push for the Falklands.

Let’s see the Burnhamanator fumble that one.

Veering way OT for a moment, if I may: I had a "Beam me up, Scotty!" moment this morning and need to get it out of my system.

I can't remember when I last got on a bus, but today for various reasons it was my only option.

The journey was uneventful until a dead ringer for David Walliams' "I'm a laydee" character got on and sat directly in front of me. The smell of sickly sweet perfume was overpowering - and wafted everywhere as this chap affectedly waved his (bright red) fan in front of his face.

The journey continued without incident until an elderly man in the seat behind me tapped my shoulder, nodded towards the fan waver and said, none too quietly in what sounded to me like a South London accent, "Thassa maaan! Look at 'is whiskas and Adam's apple."

Put on the spot and not wishing to appear rude, I turned to him and silently mouthed, "I know", at the same time noticing the other passengers quietly convulsing.

It seemed like an eternity (but was probably only minutes) that I sat in trepidation of any more comments from seat behind until the "laydee" reached his stop, glared round the bus and got off.

Never again.😱