Thread 51 Starmer : pedo mellon a minno

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Mendelson was his nemesis. What the hell's bells possessed him to go along with that?

AB is a blairite!!!

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Agree @DuncinToffee

Re:Burnham, I always remember his weaseling over this. He thought the Labour leadership should have opposed the bill, but he actually abstained.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33608826

Absolutely. Mandelson plus poor local election results = end of the road.

I haven’t like the right wing chasing of the immigration policy, but in fairness that remark was taken wildly out of context. He should perhaps have been aware it would be…

I'll never understand the mandelson decision then the doubling down and making the CS the fallguys

I know! Hence my point. You literally would never know on MN.

Mandelson was 75% of it. The problem is there are other bits that also add up to 75%.

We are where we are. Having got here, the best thing is to look forwards as quickly so as to maximse the remaining government.

Starmer leaving would be a double edged sword for the opposition. Especially if the replaced is someone who cannot be smeared with anything that has happened in government since 2024. There is also the fact that he has not had 2 years to build up a cosy coterie of yes men ....

Interesting times.

The Attorney General's Office has become the first government department to quit X

Statement on the Edinburgh attack

https://bsky.app/profile/richardhermer.bsky.social/post/3morw7bv4fk2e
The images from Edinburgh are horrifying, and my thoughts are with those affected by these shocking attacks.

The suspect appears to have been motivated by anti-Muslim hatred.

We must condemn racism & division in the strongest terms, and show our solidarity to the Muslim community.

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Sounds promising.

I'm wondering what dirt on AB the Mail will launch with just as soon as he is PM.
Pretty sure they'll already have some banked...

I never let the Daily Fail get into my headspace. Makes for a peaceful life.

But it won't be anything to do with the last 2 years of Labour government, will it ?

Not that anyone really cared, but one of Sunaks primary weaknesses was how close he was connected to the entire Johnson government.

The only "dirt" that can really be dug up will be about his time as Mayor of Manchester And the problem the Mail and other rags face with that is the majority of their readerships couldn't give two shits about the North. They will struggle to sound sincere.

If Burnham hasn't raised the magic wand and money tree within seconds of taking office, heaven help him. There'll be no honeymoon.

Remember Starmer swinging to a resounding and thumping victory had absolutely nothing to do with the utter incompetence and shambles of successive Etonian Tory governments.

I've already been trying to imagine the headlines the day after the King of the North is crowned.

I suspect 'Communist', 'Far-Left', 'Economy in free-fall', 'Exodus of millionaire business-owners' etc etc will figure.

Baffling, isnt it?

Well.
I'm going to watch the tennis, whilst ironing (boo) and think about my lovely late dad, who would have been utterly dismayed by the state of uk since 2016 😕

Of course, Burnham would come to office with the first 2 years of Labours work under the belt. The bits that the press kindly kept secret.

There is a world in which Burnham takes power just as those measures start to deliver.

I’m also thinking of my Dad today. I said on another thread (or it might have been this one so apologies if I’m repeating myself) that he worked with AB when he was involved with his Trade Union and they were friends. Dad was a huge fan and always touted him as a future leader so he’d be pleased.

My feelings are a bit more mixed.

I saw a rumour earlier that Farage is stepping down as an MP tomorrow. Can’t remember where, might have been BlueSky. Probably rubbish.

There was an anonymous Tory source reportedly claiming Farage was planning to step down.

Maybe he'll do it after Starmer's announcement. He could then claim he "got Starmer out".

This was in The Times this morning.

In his Friday broadcast Farage looked fed up and exhausted. The physical and mental pressures of running a party so dictatorially must be intense. Farage could be 65 by the next election, due before the summer of 2029, and it wouldn't surprise me if he quits the job before then, perhaps claiming illness. After all, he's stepped down as a party leader three times before — from Ukip in 2009 and 2016, and from the Brexit Party in 2021.

And would Farage really relish the daily frustrations and impossible decisions of No 10? Farage's departure from the leadership would be devastating to Reform. His comeback in 2024 demonstrated how in modern politics a charismatic, savvy communicator can make a massive difference to their party's fortunes. And Burnham also showed that in Makerfield last week.

He does have some thunder to steal, so the timing would be perfect for him.

It's not impossible that Farage got high on his own supply and genuinely believed that if Starmer went, he'd be kissing hands the next day. Instead he's still one step away from the succession.

Or - (if you prefer a narrative much more in keeping with Farage). Having spent the past two years telling anyone who would listen (whether they wanted to or not) that he is the UKs next PM, then when Starmer goes, there could be a lot of people with lighter wallets wondering quite what they got for their £5,000,000.

And it's possible for more than one thing to be true at the same time.

Also Farage has now had to try and smarm off 3 by-election defeats looking more and more shifty as he does. There is a very real laaw of diminishing returns.