How is Ariana Grande allowed to keep going?

[fartotheleftside]

She looks like she’s at death’s door with anorexia and yet she’s just kicked off a world tour.

I thought we were living in more enlightened times now and that celebrities’ ill health wouldn’t be enabled like this. If she went to any hospital she’d get admitted for malnutrition.

I think she’s unlikely to have had a healthy bmi for a significant period of her career tbh

It can do, it entirely depends on her bloods, organ functioning, whether she is just about on the side of functioning 'ok'.

Exactly. There's bands I follow who I remember cancelling gigs because the lead singer has been ill. (Within Temptation and Evanescence are ones that spring to mind.)

We've seen what happens when singers have struggled with mental illness. Chester Bennington, Chris Cornell and Kurt Cobain. I see someone has mentioned Karen Carpenter. 🥺

Bit of a knobby comment.

Ariana probably has a whole octave more than KC did and is a very talented woman. Pretty sure she writes or at least co-writes most of her stuff. Also her impressions are very impressive as a stand alone skill.

They're completely different artists.

Yes AG is clearly unwell and someone should probably get on top of that.

Hollywood/showbiz has a massive history of forcing young and troubled women to perform on the basis that 'the show must go on' and that they have signed contracts. Marilyn Monroe, Vivien Leigh, Judy Garland are historical examples.

Then there's the lovely Karen Carpenter, the hugely talented Lena Zavaroni and very recently Jenette Mccurdy. She was a Disney channel star and one of the few people brave enough to speak out even though many others of her generation are clearly unweill.

l.

Yes but they chose to cancel. So far, AG hasn’t.

She’s quite normal for celeb land though

Have you ever had dealings with an anorexic?

they don’t have agency is the true sense. They will deny anything is wrong, they manipulate anyone and everyone with absolutely no guilt to hide their disorder.

AN can turn lovely people into deceptive, stubborn, liars who are not nice people to be around.

she will believe that there is nothing wrong with her, she’s fine, and anyone who tells her different is just jealous/whatever reason.

I dont know how to post pictures, it always goes wrong, but theres a picture of her in a black v neck dress, very low cut, leaning forward, its skeletal.

It is very difficult to know if any of the pictures have been AI'd though, people love to exaggerate things

But that’s their choice, usually. AG isn’t choosing to cancel, so it would involve someone forcing her to, and that’s the hard part.

If she was clearly drunk on stage or high on drugs we would call it out for what it is and question being spectators to it. But under the guise of 'feminism' we are told not to comment on womens bodies as if this is similar to mocking someone for cellulite.

I don't doubt she wants to be on stage, that part of her mind is probably enjoying all the comments about her body being so small, and getting a thrill from moments of lightheadedness, getting to exercise in front of a crowd...

for the person to say the photos on twitter are edited and not similar to what she posts herself see this. And that's not to mention all the promo pics from her latest album that seem entirely based around her protruding bones.

People are saying her family should support her. Sadly family don't always have a child's best interests at heart. Amy Winehouse's dad said "no, no, no' when other people who didn't benefit financially from her earnings tried to make her go to rehab. Apparently he is still trying to milk her estate now.

The Ariana situation makes me think of this. It's the last show performed by Amy Winehouse. She was suffering from bulimia and addiction issues, but most of the people around her were determined the show should go on, regardless of the cost to her health.

I don't think Ariana has the stamina for a tour. If it keeps going, it's going to end one of two ways - either in a physical collapse onstage, or, like Amy in this video, when she gives such a disastrous performance the tour is cancelled off the back of fan outrage.

The worst thing is that I think the situation might be even worse than people are assuming. If she's using cocaine or some other substance on top of an eating disorder, she's in such danger. You can't mess around with your heart like that. But I think she might be. I seriously doubt she's making it through these performances without chemical assistance. Anorexia is exhausting and blunts your emotional affect. There comes a stage when it's just not possible to perform like that on willpower alone.

Yes, and Kylie cancelled a world tour when diagnosed with breast cancer.

I really don't think she is.

This isn't Hollywood thin or Ozempic body. She's very obviously suffering from an eating disorder.

Athletes too. Gymnasts and dancers are the classic example. Google Christy Heinrich, a gymnast who continued competing until she was no longer strong enough and died shortly after.

how rude.
It's fine for people to be very overweight though?

I agree that if there are concerns about her weight, someone should help her.
Until we can equally stop people who look too overweight to do thing, it's not ok to pass judgements on people who are "too slim".

Double standards are ridiculous.

Where have you been? The internet has been full of calling out and commenting on AG for 3 days now!

I agree @fartotheleftside and I have seen her going like this for several years now, and her co-star in Wicked is going the same way. (Cynthia Arivo.)

Here is a link to a recent photo of her... She is skeletal all right. It's so sad.

https://www.boredpanda.com/ariana-grande-sparks-concern-extremely-thin-image-baftas/

Speaking as someone who loves Ariana, I don’t think she should be allowed to perform because of her potential influence on young girls. I dread to think if any of the female artists I looked up to had looked like that (I had Britney, JLo, etc). I feel for her but it shouldn’t be permitted.

Don’t be ridiculous. People aren’t talking about looks they’re talking about the danger of her undertaking a very physical concert when she doesn’t have the strength or energy to do so.

It has nothing to do with overweight people. Talk about reaching

@IcedPurple its very normal for celeb to have an eating disorder.

Both her & Cynthia were teeny in Wicked.

I checked her age. She's only 32! If I didn't know better I'd have guessed she was at least a decade older in that picture.

This thread isn’t about overweight people, it’s about Ariana Grande. It’s ok to just discuss one issue on a thread. The ’whataboutery’ is pointless and unhelpful.

She used to be quite active on pro-and Tumblr back in the day. Something that's been quietly scrubbed from the internet.

She's genuinely very talented and I hope she gets the help she needs.