How is Ariana Grande allowed to keep going?

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She looks like she’s at death’s door with anorexia and yet she’s just kicked off a world tour.

I thought we were living in more enlightened times now and that celebrities’ ill health wouldn’t be enabled like this. If she went to any hospital she’d get admitted for malnutrition.

Exactly. For someone tall and slim to tip right over the other end of the healthy BMI range would not be healthy for them at all.

What on earth does this even mean?

Exactly, if only there were a greater selection of reply emojis; I know which one I'd be using.

I think it’s likely. It’s very sad.

The worst thing is that many girls will look at that and think that's how they should look. Because celebrity worship

I think I saw the same one, it shocked me. No one is healthy at that weight. I really hope those close to her are keeping an eye on her.

Nothing at all with being posh or not. How would you like it if people continuously referred to you by whatever name you were known by in 2011?(assuming your life has changed in some way since then)
It was kinda understandable for a while I guess but they’ve been married now for 15 years. Longer than a lot of marriages last.

Over a decade of food rationing tends to have that effect 😬

Oh for goodness sake, we don’t know her, we are not directly addressing her and people know who we mean if we call her Kate Middleton.

I see I'm running into the classic problem of trying to crack a joke on the internet!

I know women were not all stick thin in the 1950s" My comment was taking the piss out of those folks who regularly come on to discussions like these and say 'We've lost sight of what a healthy weight is. In my great aunt Hilda's day all the women were that slim. It's just that we think it's normal to be fatties. Ariana's weight is normal and healthy'.

You only need to look at pictures of her in 2018 or 2019 and now to see how much weight she has lost and has gone from being slim and healthy, to seriously underweight.

Cynthia has just ran an excellent London marathon time during a west end run. She's in rude health.

Poor Ariana, she always comes across as a smart pop star. I hope she rides this out. For what it's worth, it's quite a short tour and ends on the 1st Sept.

No, it was just bitchy & unnecessary.

This is her in 2020. https://www.teenvogue.com/story/ariana-grande-grammys-2020-red-carpet

She looks gorgeous and healthy.

Poor girl, someone mistook me for her once, I’m nowhere near skinny so I’m going to presume she has lost a lot of weight. As a pp, I wonder if it could be linked in part to the Manchester situation? That’s a hell of a lot and the associated trauma could easily manifest as guilt and survivor guilt etc,
if feels like in these so called enlightened times that celebrities wouldn’t be worked to death’s door like many stars or yesteryear but perhaps they still are, who knows, maybe she’s putting the pressure on herself.
I hope sh is ok and some is looking after her.

These are the same. The neck, and shoulders give it away.

I am slim (not this slim and suddenly have quite a bit of tum fat recently) yet you can see my rib bones sometimes. It looks alarming but that’s not the most alarming part of this pic. It’s the shoulder bones!

For example - someone who is 5'8" and 9 stone and perfectly healthy lies at the bottom of the healthy BMI range. If she put on over 3 stone she would be over the top end of the healthy BMI range - not by much, but still if 9 stone is her natural, healthy weight, another 3 stone would not be healthy - for her.

Indeed. There are clearly a small handful of people on here who think that being very thin, with bones sticking out, and the ribcage showing, is a look we should all be aiming for. And thinking a BMI of 26.5 is 'actually quite big' and 'quite overweight,' and comments like 'I would need to gain 3.5 stone to have a BMI of 26.5, and yet I am not skinny' are extremely worrying.

Some people definitely HAVE lost sight of what a healthy body looks like.

That photo is quite old though. I remember a co-worker saying how she was underweight almost a decade ago.

I know 4 women who are 5 ft 8 and 5 ft 9, and they are 10 stone 10 - to 12 stone 2. They look great. They are healthy and fit and look great in their clothes. (They are around size 10 to 12.) If they were 9 stone, they would look like they needed to be in hospital. I don't care what 'the official weight charts' say, being 9 stone at 5 ft 8 to 5 ft 9 is not a healthy weight. It's too low.

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Who actually thinks about shit like this?!?

Yes, I saw this and it is shocking - we are (sadly) used to seeing the sort of rib cage from the side on very thin female “stars” but the picture with the front of the chest bones showing is absolutely awful - she is like someone in a concentration camp. I mean she was tiny before, now she is skeletal.

Those saying “she’s an adult making her own choices” need to give their heads a wobble. You can’t have true autonomy without agency and liberty ie the capacity to make decisions in your own best interests and freedom from controlling influences. In AG’s case, I’d say she is in the grip of an eating disorder and is not really fit/able to make decisions in her own best interests.

Women (and men) have starved themselves to death - do people think that was their own/adult choice? Really?

One of my best friends who I met in a treatment facility just ran a marathon. She’s extremely unwell and she got a medal.

This is silly. That’s like saying someone on the high end of the bmi normal range looks morbidly obese.

Not only is she putting herself at risk, she's putting other people at risk. The image she is portraying is to young girls is really worrying, as if it is normal to look this way and be out there performing, at a time when the number of children with anorexia is at a record high. The impact of these images on social media etc are huge especially on young girls who look at people like her as role models.

I do wonder if she has also had to drop weight for the ballerina role which let’s face it is one of the unhealthiest professions there is with underweight girls