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MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:40

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 16:39

He’s not an asylum seeker. The Home Office has confirmed he has leave to remain.

Breaking news. He is.

MightyDandelionEsq · Yesterday 16:41

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:38

It has been reported that the man is an asylum seeker. He’d better not be seeking it any longer.

Just saw this:

  • He travelled from Sudan to Paris and later flew from Paris to Dublin on an unknown date
  • He then travelled by bus from Dublin to Belfast on 10 February 2023 and claimed asylum on this day
  • He was then granted leave to remain in the UK on 28 September 2023

I’d call this savage an economic migrant myself.

innalittlepickle · Yesterday 16:42

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 12:36

I don’t think that’s the case.
If you’re raised in a culture which indoctrinates you to believe that people outside that culture are worthless and you get a better seat in heaven if you irradiate them, then mental health doesn’t really come into it.

Quite. 100% this.

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 16:42

Flyingintotheunknown · Yesterday 16:25

That doesn’t mean everyone who participates is a racist and you have no evidence they have. But you choose to throw a word around because it suits your narrative! I don’t care if you live there or not, people are angry. If you choose not to be angry about an attempted beheading and all you’ve got to say is “racist” then it says more about you than it does about those who are angry

You’re telling someone who lives in Belfast how to respond to an attack in Belfast and how to feel about the response of others in Belfast? Isn’t this exactly your problem with immigrants, people from outside dictating how the natives should feel?

BIossomtoes · Yesterday 16:42

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:40

Breaking news. He is.

From the BBC News site

Little-Pengelly says ministers understand the suspect was in Northern Ireland on a five-year visa - police say he is believed to be in his 30s and Sudanese

chirrupybird · Yesterday 16:42

MaturingCheeseball · Yesterday 16:38

It has been reported that the man is an asylum seeker. He’d better not be seeking it any longer.

Seems he came from Dublin and had the right to remain.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:44

chirrupybird · Yesterday 16:42

Seems he came from Dublin and had the right to remain.

There’s no checks, the system won’t pick up on this until the horrific crime happens.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 16:44

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 16:42

You’re telling someone who lives in Belfast how to respond to an attack in Belfast and how to feel about the response of others in Belfast? Isn’t this exactly your problem with immigrants, people from outside dictating how the natives should feel?

Erm, weren’t you JUST writing about how ridiculous it is to take the word of an African migrant on the motivations for being an African migrant?

Seagullsandsausagerolls · Yesterday 16:44

All the shops in our village have been told to close at 5.30.

Next month is the mad month and it's not great that things are kicking off already but paramilitaries control the area.

LakieLady · Yesterday 16:46

Ginnyweasleyswand · Yesterday 10:49

Not letting illegal migrants in the first step. Australia's done it, America's done it. We could do it, those in power don't want to. That's the truth. They are prioritising single male migrants (many of them economic migrants, many of them who think women and children are little more than objects for them to use) over the safety and wellbeing of those already here INCLUDING legal migrants.

Letting these men in also means there is no space and no effort at all in actually providing asylum to those who truly need it e.g. women and girls in Afghanistan. Maybe rather than bankrolling illegal single male migrants for 2.5 years whilst their claims are processed we could put the money into a legal route for these women and girls.

The fact an asylum claim takes 2.5 years is a good reason not to allow illegal migrants in at point of entry because by the time a decision is made they may have disappeared into the criminal economy or if not it will cost even more to deport them at that point. They can apply abroad and if granted, then they can come.

Re the last para, unless things have changed very recently, it's not possible to apply for asylum here unless you are in the UK at the time of application.

IndigoBrave · Yesterday 16:46

JudgeJ · Yesterday 12:29

So that makes it OK then! Love how so many people are tying themselves in knots to find excuses for a murderer.

But it’s everyone at the protest tonight that didn’t protest when the killers were local that are condoning murderers

MsJinks · Yesterday 16:46

MightyDandelionEsq · Yesterday 16:41

Just saw this:

  • He travelled from Sudan to Paris and later flew from Paris to Dublin on an unknown date
  • He then travelled by bus from Dublin to Belfast on 10 February 2023 and claimed asylum on this day
  • He was then granted leave to remain in the UK on 28 September 2023

I’d call this savage an economic migrant myself.

Edited

Seems he got the initial 5 year grant as a refugee - if this is accurate, who knows yet.

But on any 5 year visa - any visa tbh - he is not an asylum seeker.

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 16:46

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 16:44

Erm, weren’t you JUST writing about how ridiculous it is to take the word of an African migrant on the motivations for being an African migrant?

Crikey your comprehension is appalling. Or you’re posting in bad faith. Either way, it’s probably best if I back away from you slowly, no sudden movements…

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 16:48

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 16:46

Crikey your comprehension is appalling. Or you’re posting in bad faith. Either way, it’s probably best if I back away from you slowly, no sudden movements…

Yeah sure.
Totally out of character for you to avoid the conversation when faced with evidence you’ve been spouting 💩

@Maggispice Can you believe the brass neck on this one?

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:48

MsJinks · Yesterday 16:46

Seems he got the initial 5 year grant as a refugee - if this is accurate, who knows yet.

But on any 5 year visa - any visa tbh - he is not an asylum seeker.

He was by the looks of it but his application was approved. No checks.

celticnations · Yesterday 16:48

Since when economic migrants attempt beheadings, though?

Is that OK?

MsJinks · Yesterday 16:48

LakieLady · Yesterday 16:46

Re the last para, unless things have changed very recently, it's not possible to apply for asylum here unless you are in the UK at the time of application.

Nothing has changed - you still need to be on British soil to claim asylum here.

The backlog - well maybe folk should ask the Tories why they allowed it to build - handy distraction from their shitshow? Cash for mates with rundown hotels to rent to the HO?

AlternateLook · Yesterday 16:49

IndigoBrave · Yesterday 16:46

But it’s everyone at the protest tonight that didn’t protest when the killers were local that are condoning murderers

Are you referring to The Troubles in Northern Ireland?

OpheliaWasntMad · Yesterday 16:49

Persephonia1966 · Yesterday 16:35

The riots in London over Duggan began as a small protest but were not really about him by the time they turned into riots. They were about people looting white goods and socks, burning down small businesses and expressing anger at being left behind in the most unhelpful way possible. Usually by attacking those who had slightly more (a lot of very small local businesses were targeted). They were stupid and anyone trying to agitate for them to happen was a POS. Likewise anyone trying to agitated for riots now is. Even if there is genuine grievance buried deep down it's shitty to use someone else's tragedy as an excuse to be violent. And Elon Musk is a POS.

I was responding to a pp who said that demonstrations only occur/ protests were only ever about white people.
I agree that violent protest or rioting is never acceptable no matter how justified the cause.
The people who suffer in riots are never the wrong doers.

MightyDandelionEsq · Yesterday 16:50

MsJinks · Yesterday 16:46

Seems he got the initial 5 year grant as a refugee - if this is accurate, who knows yet.

But on any 5 year visa - any visa tbh - he is not an asylum seeker.

I’d call him an economic migrant due to the fact he passed through France and Southern Ireland to get here. Based on his behaviour displayed in the video, I’m going to assume that he’s been adding nothing to Britain as he doesn’t strike me as a well mannered productive member of society and just suddenly had a bad day.

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 16:50

Seagullsandsausagerolls · Yesterday 16:44

All the shops in our village have been told to close at 5.30.

Next month is the mad month and it's not great that things are kicking off already but paramilitaries control the area.

How awful for you, a lawless place.

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:50

MsJinks · Yesterday 16:48

Nothing has changed - you still need to be on British soil to claim asylum here.

The backlog - well maybe folk should ask the Tories why they allowed it to build - handy distraction from their shitshow? Cash for mates with rundown hotels to rent to the HO?

Still on this? Labour are in power now. What changes will Starmer make or is it more empty platitudes ‘appalling’

MsJinks · Yesterday 16:50

EasternStandard · Yesterday 16:48

He was by the looks of it but his application was approved. No checks.

Of course there were fucking checks - how many times - every application processed is subject to all sorts of checks - including criminal.

If he’s never tried to behead anyone then it won’t have flagged this is a thing he may do weirdly.

IndigoBrave · Yesterday 16:51

AlternateLook · Yesterday 16:49

Are you referring to The Troubles in Northern Ireland?

No, the more recent killing of woman (30 in the last 5 years) mostly by people they know

Allisnotlost1 · Yesterday 16:52

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · Yesterday 16:48

Yeah sure.
Totally out of character for you to avoid the conversation when faced with evidence you’ve been spouting 💩

@Maggispice Can you believe the brass neck on this one?

Edited

What evidence is it that you think you’ve provided? You’ve clearly said you think one ‘African migrant’ speaks for all. So you think Elon Musk and this killer are the same, by your own logic? You’ve defended paramilitaries in NI while saying we should ban people from other paramilitary controlled countries. Utter inanity, call on whatever supporters you want.

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