Henry Nowak second thread, as requested.

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Just recently there has been a number of extremist attacks in the UK. There is a gang culture population in some groups. They don't need anyone going around carrying knives. It normalises it. Today watching BBC 3 men stabbed a presenter in the leg on hit and made of to Romania. There was a young British woman recently who was into extremism but I cannot remember the case.
It is a sad case, but you might have some kids doing non harmful copycat acts after all the publicity. I used to copy after going to the cinema etc. I pretended I could fly from the bed.

You re not medically trained, nor were you at the scene, now suggesting the 'coroner is corrupt.

Got any evidence for that?

The n th time, the Police at the scene did not realise he had been stabbed, had they realised this, they would have acted totally differently.

You and others are constantly implying that the Police knew he had been stabbed but deliberately with held treatment...

... i can only assume this is being done to politicise his murder, totally against the wishes of the family.

Doubtless you'll question the inquiry too.

An ambulance arrived at the scene and a doctor was flown there by helicopter. I’m not sure why they did that rather than take him to A&E but assume there was a reason.

How much time was there between him being stabbed at 11:19 p.m. and the police arriving at the scene? That wasn't 1 hour 18 minutes.

The bodycam footage says 11:37pm

From the BBC:

'The judge explained that footage filmed by Digwa showed Nowak "desperately trying to get away" by scaling a fence and getting onto a communal bin before landing on a car in front of the next-door property. Digwa "continued to make films of Henry suffering, ignoring much of his desperation at having been stabbed", the judge added.'

😔Digwa (and hopefully soon his brother), should never get out of prison.

Digwa is clearly a very sadistic and evil person. He taunted Henry, filmed his suffering, didn’t call an ambulance and lied to the police saying he hasn’t been stabbed, delaying the time they could have got medical help. He must have known they were seconds/minutes from finding out he had indeed stabbed him and yet he still lied. He watched as they handcuffed him and was still telling the police his lies as he watched a teenager boy die.

And to top it off, an hour or so later he was picking out food from the canteen for his dinner. Who would have an appetite after that?

If you read my post it states that Henry was stabbed at 11:19 and declared dead at 12:37 which is 1 hour 18 minutes away.

The police may well have arrived on the scene at 11:37 which would mean that they were on the scene for a full hour before Henry was declared dead.

It may be they had to wait for the doctor (who was flown in) to formally declare him dead. I’m not sure if the police can make that judgement, but I may be wrong.

When did the ambulance arrive?

Mm except that a woman hid the knife and didn’t call an ambulance

I did read your post. You quoted the time between the stabbing and the declaration. That isn't the same thing as the time between the police arriving and the time of his death. That's why I was asking the question.

The ambulance was requested at 23:40 by the police describing Henry as being beaten up (not stabbed).

The time the ambulance arrived has not been disclosed.

The police arrived at 23:37.

I wonder if the family would have been scared to admit that he's stabbed him in fear of their own life as well... Most likely not considering his brother supposedly told him to mention self defence but id have been terrified if id have seen that and known my brother had just murdered someone

Brother seems like a nutcase as well

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15874075/Moment-brother-Henry-Nowak-killer-holds-Sikh-ceremonial-sword-road-rage-incident-outside-temple-fury-grows-police-two-tier-response-murder.html

Can I just say: it's completely Not Normal to even be dressed in that garb even for observant Sikhs. Let alone be brandishing fckin giant swords like that.

Also, the fucker seems to be tiny

How have the rioters been charged before they have 🙈

Fucking ridiculous how long that’s taken, and you know it’s only due to the publicity

So it took them an hour to declare it?

That poor boy was gone by the time the footage ended 😔

It's impossible to say really. The ambulance was called for at 23:40, it has not been publicly disclosed what time the ambulance arrived and he was declared dead at 00:37, most likely by the the ambulance crew.

All this happened 5 minutes from Southampton Hospital.

Here's the full transcript of the 999 call. So the call handler knew that Henry was injured.

Life should mean life in this case.

He's in Belmarsh on the bacon wing as it's known. Bacon bonce ryhmes with nonce.

If you are concerned about this and the use of knives you could report it to the police generally if you felt you could make a case.. It could get them to may be review about the knives perhaps or any other concerns.
It would be good to hear from the Sikh community how common is it for the ordinary Sikh person to wear a knife.
www.gov.uk/report-terrorism

So according to this the father and brother of the murderer are out on unconditional bail for the numerous weapons offenses, yet a guy who pushed a wheelie bin at the police last week at the priest is in prison on remand!!!!!!!

@Fixydodah Sikhs have historically been persecuted by Muslims but also as a religious group have also sacrificed their lives for other faiths.