Henry Nowak second thread, as requested.

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What is the reason this family are in the UK?

AFAIK he was born here and he’s in his 20s. So his parents would have moved here a while ago.

Because they are British?

Dual nationality is interesting though. What does this family do as jobs? They seem hugely disfunctional

Completely agree, the body cam footage is terrible, worse than I expected as well. How can they stay in their jobs? Surely they need to be sacked to restore some confidence in the police and then there needs to be a review in policing priorities and changes made so that this can’t happen again. The police have to protect all of society in a fair way otherwise we will lose trust in them &
I don’t think that is a good path to go down.

'no englej' is a phrase often heard at the job centre

@IGuessIllbetheFirst agree.....I don't think you have mate...

Should have been sacked immediately. Where was his duty of care ???use your eyes man ! He was a kid !! Surrounded by this family all standing and bouncing around while this young kid was weak and collapsed in the floor . So callous and unprofessional.

Weirdly I think the father is a solicitor, his brother works/worked for Starling bank and the murderer himself is an accountant.

Didn't the policewoman, when the ambulance was finally called, say he was "beat up" not stabbed as well? It's just complete callous incompetence from start to finish.

And she had a very casual -if you have one available- absolutely no sense of the urgency 😡

Agree @FatEndoftheWedge - really basic stuff - if someone says they have been stabbed and can’t breathe, then check it out. Don’t just believe what you have been told. When did our police become so incompetent / easily influenced that they stopped doing their job?

Hid the knife and let another mother’s son die without calling an ambulance .

I wonder how the police reacted after that footage was taken, when they realised he really had been stabbed. Did they finally check or was it not until the ambulance arrived. I think I would be haunted for the rest of my days.

I just saw a little compilation video of him and his older sister together, dancing, laughing, and being silly. They're clearly so close. How must she be feeling now?

I hope that they investigate and if appropriate bring criminal proceedings against those police involved so that hopefully they lose their pensions. They need to suffer a little bit proportionally as the parents no doubt suffered.

This has nothing to do with the boats. Sikh people are not coming over on boats. Why can't people see that at the heart of this problem is the rose in knife crime and for that, I do blame the government. The law is way too lenient on knife carrying, hence why so many young people are getting away with it. This was at the heart of Henry's dad's request but everyone is ignoring that and focusing on race. Finally, it's pretty depressing that any Police force needs any training or guidelines to know how to treat different ethnicities. People are people.

Is it true that the killer’s family were verbally abusive in court? Has this been reported by a reliable source anywhere? I can’t trust X / Twitter

I'm seeing reporting that the initial altercation was elsewhere and Henry got dragged to outside the Digwa house?

God. I am surprised with this. Did he say why he stabbed Henry. A young 18 year old on his own.

It was the way he was right in the faces of the
police, claiming he had been abused and then knowing he had stabbed Henry told the police he hadn’t. Also talking in Punjabi to his brother which was then translated.

i hope he is looking over his shoulder every day in prison.

Yes. Phrased here as "an argument broke out", but I think recent events have spoken to the charaters of both families.

news.sky.com/story/vickrum-digwa-sentencing-live-killer-who-murdered-student-and-told-wicked-racism-lie-about-victim-faces-jail-13549752

I always thought there was a difference in policing as black men have a few harrowing stories on treatment by the Police. There have been many cases (I'd have to look them up) of people being kicked, manhandled while cuffed. Police have treated ethnic minorities and working class white people badly for years. There are too many bad officers for sure. I'm not saying they're all the same btw but too many. Look at the Sarah Everard case and the officers who passed around footage of the dead sisters. They get punished and we move on. It's not right.

The police in Hampshire have had specific training:

https://x.com/SuellaBraverman/status/2062266038851375363

Where’d you see that? That’s so sad.

A thorough report about the night on the DM

https://www.dailymail.com/news/article-15867645/Henry-Nowak-murder-reconstruction-Vickrum-Digwa.html

’In that ten-minute period, Digwa did not call an ambulance – but did film Henry for a full five minutes. This clip was not played in court for being ‘too disturbing to be shown’.’ Good lord.

I’ve wept all day thinking of this kid in his final moments. It’s truly broken my heart.

Had he been shown some care, compassion and treated with the decency and respect that he deserved in his final moments then it would have undoubtedly brought some kind of comfort to his family.

As a mum of a son, it would haunt me, replaying his final moments and the sarcastic words from the officer involved.

That vermin that did this deserves to suffer in an unimaginable way.