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Do you believe the Michael Jackson allegations part 2

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AutumnLover1990 · 18/05/2026 15:54

New thread 😀

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Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 10:53

I can totally believe that that poor kid was shouted at and confused and torn down a strip while questioned. A clever adult lawyer directing questions at a young inexperienced child who had never been in that kind of situation before. Court rooms are intimidating at the best of times. And that bit about the date on the magazine!! Bloody hell, those things all look the same! Poor kid. The US courtroom is very different beast to over here.

FinchiePink · 04/06/2026 10:54

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 10:50

No one could look at that painting and not think it was based on the last supper. Surely?

I agree. It's not a direct copy, but it's clearly been heavily influenced by The Last Supper at least. And that's not really surprising given how iconic a piece of art it is.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 10:59

Exactly, you’d have to be a pretty isolated abd/or ignorant artist not to know the iconic layout of the last supper so why create something so similar if you didn’t want comparisons made?

MyTrivia · 04/06/2026 11:07

AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 09:00

Bit of a leap. Paris and Bigi look like Michael. Prince has vitiligo too which is hereditary.

The children objectively all have Caucasian skin and features. Prince has an Eastern European look about him. Paris looks just like her mother.

FinchiePink · 04/06/2026 11:07

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 10:59

Exactly, you’d have to be a pretty isolated abd/or ignorant artist not to know the iconic layout of the last supper so why create something so similar if you didn’t want comparisons made?

I would guess he's trying to put off any criticism or scrutiny. And I don't blame him for that, he shouldn't be under the lens. I don't even blame him for TLS parallels in the piece, there's been more than one painting which emulates it in one way or another. But I don't think he's being entirely truthful.

MyTrivia · 04/06/2026 11:09

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 10:59

Exactly, you’d have to be a pretty isolated abd/or ignorant artist not to know the iconic layout of the last supper so why create something so similar if you didn’t want comparisons made?

People who say he didn’t have a messiah complex are lying to themselves. He was an absolute narcissist. 🤷🏻‍♀️ his live earth song performance depicted him as Christ laying hands on the sick. It’s gross.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 11:13

MyTrivia · 04/06/2026 11:07

The children objectively all have Caucasian skin and features. Prince has an Eastern European look about him. Paris looks just like her mother.

In the documentary and elsewhere people have testified to the fact no adult women including his 2 wives slept in his bed. Just the kids.

MyTrivia · 04/06/2026 11:28

Hubhubba26 · 04/06/2026 09:29

He certainly didn't hate his own race...lots of reasons why I can confidently say that.

I’m not black so I’m not going to whitesplain but I’ve heard the opposite from quite a few in the black community who don’t feel that MJ acted like someone proud of his race.

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 11:58

I’ve finished the documentary. The grooming that took place was next level and consistent across all of the boys testimonies. He obviously targeted poor families, usually without a father figure who would be completely starstruck and eternally grateful for gifts, money, attention, that feeling of being special and ‘chosen’ by someone so very famous who provided an escape, a lifestyle so opposite and far removed from what they lived day to day. Who wouldn’t be taken in by that? It seems so obvious now what was going on and how devastating not to be believed. Then Jackson settling out of court because I’m sure he knew it wasn’t going to go his way especially as they all described his markings on his body with great accuracy. ☹️

poig · 04/06/2026 13:18

AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 10:30

I find that very hard to believe 🙄

the prosecution lawyer said that’s what happened and Masereau shouted loudly at him (to intimidate him)
One of the same aggressive lawyers who got OJ Simpson off the hook for murder, recommended Masereau to the MH team. Rotten to the core, all those dodgy defence lawyers.

kkloo · 04/06/2026 14:49

AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 10:30

I find that very hard to believe 🙄

You find that very hard to believe, yet you're convinced he's innocent, you think his kids are biologically his and you see why people believed Michael was the older Dave Dave............

kkloo · 04/06/2026 14:51

MyTrivia · 04/06/2026 11:09

People who say he didn’t have a messiah complex are lying to themselves. He was an absolute narcissist. 🤷🏻‍♀️ his live earth song performance depicted him as Christ laying hands on the sick. It’s gross.

He 100% had a Messiah complex, he literally said that he was healing Gavin, he said if he could have had a talk with Hitler he would have made a difference.

kkloo · 04/06/2026 14:54

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 10:50

No one could look at that painting and not think it was based on the last supper. Surely?

They definitely couldn't.
But it won't stop them from pretending they don't see it of course.

kkloo · 04/06/2026 17:14

I don't have netflix so waiting for the documentary to come up elsewhere, just watching the channel 4 one now and they said that MJs defence managed to get hold of everything about the Arvizos including the 15 year old girls gynecological records.

MyTrivia · 04/06/2026 17:32

Hubhubba26 · 04/06/2026 09:24

I guess the most important question re Paris, Bigi and Prince is did they grow up feeling loved?

Well they grew up without a mother or father because their parents were selfish and their dad was a total junkie with a habit that involved being anaesthetised at bedtime. It’s wild that child protection weren’t involved prior.

kkloo · 04/06/2026 18:29

AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 09:47

Wow 😮 Thank you for the link.

Also edited the Artizo part when Michael said he sleeps on the floor 🙄 Took that part out. I'd absolutely love it for the Jackson estate to sue Netflix. If trump can sue the BBC? Why is it any different ?😔

Did they put in the bit from the same Bashir documentary where Michael said he slept in bed with many children?

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:21

I am dubious to say the least regarding the vitiligo claims, I think he had a lightening chemical applied to his skin, which went horribly wrong, like his surgeries which he claims are two rhinoplasty and another I can’t remember but such utter lies, which is evident to anyone with eyes that function.

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:29

@MyTrivia another messed up generation sadly, I wonder when it will end but it seems it is self perpetuating

fundamentallyauthentic · 04/06/2026 19:29

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:21

I am dubious to say the least regarding the vitiligo claims, I think he had a lightening chemical applied to his skin, which went horribly wrong, like his surgeries which he claims are two rhinoplasty and another I can’t remember but such utter lies, which is evident to anyone with eyes that function.

No need to be dubious. It wasn’t a claim, he did have vitiligo.

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:31

fundamentallyauthentic · 04/06/2026 19:29

No need to be dubious. It wasn’t a claim, he did have vitiligo.

of course he did, if it is hereditary like a previous post why didn’t his many siblings have it

fundamentallyauthentic · 04/06/2026 19:34

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:31

of course he did, if it is hereditary like a previous post why didn’t his many siblings have it

I’ve no idea how it derives, but it’s a proven fact he had it.

AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 19:46

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:21

I am dubious to say the least regarding the vitiligo claims, I think he had a lightening chemical applied to his skin, which went horribly wrong, like his surgeries which he claims are two rhinoplasty and another I can’t remember but such utter lies, which is evident to anyone with eyes that function.

Vitiligo was listed in his autopsy but if you know better....🙄

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AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 19:47

SqueakyFromme · 04/06/2026 19:31

of course he did, if it is hereditary like a previous post why didn’t his many siblings have it

Maybe they did and didn't go public with it?

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Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 19:49

kkloo · 04/06/2026 18:29

Did they put in the bit from the same Bashir documentary where Michael said he slept in bed with many children?

Yes, they did. He talks about how natural it is to sleep in the same bed and that all the children ask for it.

AutumnLover1990 · 04/06/2026 19:52

Missohnoyoubetterdont · 04/06/2026 19:49

Yes, they did. He talks about how natural it is to sleep in the same bed and that all the children ask for it.

But they failed to include that he slept on the floor.

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