Labour isn't Working - Thread 31

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour* *government. 💙

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Thank you, @Hallowedturf . Such attractive and statesmanlike behaviour.

Here you go @Scotiasdarling

http://archive.today/FEGD1

Excellent. That may help Labour today but still pleased if ZP loses ground.

Didn't postal voting happen a while ago? Surely they've had time to sort this out before polling day?
Unless they didn't want to correct it.

Probably out voting 😬

Giving all the C2DE'S the stinkeye.

Laughed 😂

It always makes me laugh on any Brexit threads where left-wing people say they don’t know anyone who voted Leave as they only associate with graduates

I see there are calls for a GE after the locals. That’s very silly. I understand why politicians do this, but it’s just game playing. (The fact that Starmer called for a GE two years before the last one can be overlooked with a chuckle.)

The replacing of Starmer is also an oddity. All the noises coming out of No 10 are that it would be bad for the country if Starmer goes. That’s obviously untrue, but it misses the point completely. This is an internal Labour fight. More than any opponent, the Labour Party wants Starmer out, because he will cost them everything. No Labour MP seriously believes Starmer has any merit at all. The hesitation is because they’re split on a successor.

In any event, I suspect that Labour would have to lose in Wales (looks certain), Scotland (looks certain) and lose 1,800+ seats in England. I’ve changed my mind about English losses. I now doubt Labour will do that badly in England. They’ll go down horribly - probably 1,000 to 1,300 seats - but not enough to force Starmer out. Wait for the Labour “we’ve done better than everyone said we would” defence in TV coverage, despite the government being given a massive slapping.

Which is great news for those of us who think present Labour is a party of talentless fools. Starmer will continue to destroy it!

🤣🤣👌

I think what may keep Starmer in post, is the simple lack of any credible replacement. It’s that prosaic.

I've just been to vote and the polling station was surprisingly busy.

Pure coincidence that the entire southern rail network is down today….?

@NoWordForFluffy thanks for the clarification, even worse than I thought.

That's good to hear. Perhaps Bollard's charm and magnetism is pushing up turnout :-)

Yeah, must be that

Hello everyone 🤗 bonkers busy, well okay too busy for my liking because I don't enjoy being busy

So just dropping in to say hello

Seems like a lot of excitement
Hardly any councils will be counting overnight so overnight coverage seems a bit strange

I didn't know they had any overnight coverage. They are unmuzzled from a lot of reporting restrictions at 10pm though and so they can get into exit polls and the Juicy stuff then.

How accurate are local election exit or other polls? I can see how polling in a good sample of 650 parliamentary constituencies can give accurate predictions, but is that true for 5,000-odd, highly varied ward seats?

46 councils doing overnight counts according to this, includes a useful map

https://pa.media/blogs/pa-editors-picks/may-7-elections-hour-by-hour-guide-to-results/

Overnight counts based on that at

London Boroughs

• Bexley
• Ealing
• Hammersmith
• Havering
• Kensington and Chelsea
• Merton
• Richmond
• Sutton
• Wandsworth
• Westminster

548 council seats of which just over 200 held by Labour

County Councils (all outs)

• Hampshire

Mets none of the all out but those with 1/3 up counting overnight include

• Bolton
• Dudley
• Oldham
• Salford
• Stockport
• Tameside
• Wigan

Unitaries with 1/3 up overnight

• Halton
• Hartlepool
• Hull
• North East Lincolnshire
• Peterborough
• Plymouth
• Portsmouth
• Reading
• Southampton
• Southend

plus a number of district council electing 1/3 and one, Newcastle under Lyme which is all out

So a bit to get stuck into come breakfast tomorrow morning.

Before the main event as tomorrow afternoon unfolds.

Probably less accurate than ever given the small margin that candidates might win their seat by this time around. But that won't stop them from having some nifty graphics and entertaining vox pops.

Hartlepool will be one of the first to announce, it will be interesting to see how that goes and if they continue to return Reform councillors after their success there last year.

Oh yes, that's a good point
They can say all the things they want to say. Within reason. 😂

@boys3 thank you! I thought there were only about half a dozen who were counting overnight. That is a lot.

I can see this is the place to hang out because you lot know everything 😚

So I don't know if Morgan McSweeney's phone has been recovered, but I've just heard that someone's been found possibly selling it on, but he didn't know whose phone it was

Presumably just part of a glut of stolen mobile phones

But it does look as if Morgan McSweeney was telling the truth in the first place about the phone being stolen

Just been to vote in the Scottish election.

busy polling station? Or weee the staff manning it just glad to see someone?

Oh what I was going to stay up late to see how it goes.
I’m disappointed now.

I know, it does take some of the sport out of it. Even the Usain Bolts of vote counting, Sunderland, will be strolling tomorrow afternoon.