Thread 48 Starmer : Der Teufel ist ein Eichhörnchen

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Good luck everyone from Roma. We leave tonight on the overnight train to Sicily. Will check in tomorrow and hopefully not as awful for Labour.

I do hope Plaid do well in Wales.

Four by my count. May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak.

DD surprised me by sorting out a postal vote (she is away at uni) after not really showing any interest in politics.

She and her friends are worried about Reform.

So - when this loads lol

Reminded my kids to vote - most of them don’t need to - doh - I’m so desperate to stop Reform though ha.

No local elections here until next year so can only watch and wait with fingers crossed

May replaced Cameron - No election
Johnson replaced May - No election
Truss replaced Johnson - No election
Sunak replaced Truss - No election.

But 'The Left' are a danger to democracy.....

I forgot May. 😱

Cameron ran away, he started it

Don’t recall an election when Thatcher handed over to Major either.

Leanne Wood reckons that voting for a party polling less than 11% is a wasted vote. Labour isn't polling as badly as that in your area(but check the link in case I am guessing your area wrongly!), so either Plaid or Labour will do the job of keeping Reform out.

https://yougov.com/en-gb/articles/54697-final-yougov-mrp-of-the-2026-senedd-election-shows-plaid-cymru-on-course-to-be-the-largest-party

I think it bears repeating into history that Cameron ran away after explicitly promising he would stay to implement the result of his referendum.

And was still make a Lord and made foreign secretary.

I think the right can just fuck off over everything really.

According to that Plaid are 3/Reform 2 and Labour 1 where I am. I think I’ll go with my heart.

Made a Lord specifically to facilitate becoming the FS

Same! Since the;I’ve been lucky enough (or did I plan it?) to live in places where, even if I might not vote for the winner I didn’t hate the outcome or else in a safe Labour seat. I have voted Plaid once or twice for Senedd or local when I liked their offer better and I’d decided that was the way I was going this time before the rise of Reform so I’m ok.

And we’d all be better off today if Brown hadn’t called one when he did…

I can't prove it, but I thought at the time that both Brown and Sunak had a 2-week window when they could have won their own mandate. The electorate generally has a "give them a chance" mindset.

It takes too long to organise a GE for that to work.

I dunno - I would have voted Brown in 2008, and did not in 2010.

While I would not have voted Tory in 2022, I think enough would have ("But Jeremy Corbyn") to have returned a small majority.

As it turns out Sunak clung on with ... a small majority.

Ah, the DT is reporting that Badenoch is demanding a GE if Starmer is ousted.

She would have supported two GE's in 2022 then........

She can demand all she likes, she won’t be getting one. I don’t know where she finds the nerve.

When you never make mistakes, it's hard not to appear arrogant to mortals.

But but 'she speaks such sense' Not