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logicisall · 30/04/2026 04:53

A combination of what Trump heard and what he himself believes when KC said "Oh" in response to something Trump said about nuclear weapons and Iran.

I don't believe that KC would even express an opinion on such a sensitive subject.

logicisall · 30/04/2026 05:06

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/39e9c66fae66c46c

As the Iranian economy and people suffer, Trump is smelling blood in the water, hence his insistence on keeping the US blockade and Strait closed.

The 38-year-old factory worker in northern Iran earns one million tomans per day, the average daily salary nationwide, which is about £5.60 at current falling market rates.
...
At current wages, Mohsen and millions of Iranians must work an entire day to afford one chicken.
His employer has already laid off dozens of workers. The survivors work rotating shifts – one group today, another tomorrow – paid only for days actually worked. There is no salary for days spent at home.

Daily life returns following the ceasefire but Iranians are faced with a cost of living crisisCredit: Anadolu/Getty Images

Iran’s economy is in severe decline. Even before the war, Iran’s parliamentary research centre said about 26 million Iranians, or 30 per cent of the population, were living in absolute poverty.

Economic frustration prompted mass cost-of-living protestsin January.
Then, Israeli and US bombs shattered the country’s infrastructure and halted economic activity. Although the bombs are not falling now, there is little money coming in because of Donald Trump’s blockade of the Strait of Hormuz.
Mr Trump said the blockade was costing Iran £370m a day. Analysts agreed that it was estimated to be around £300m.

Many companies have already announced layoffs. Others simply stopped paying workers and told them to stay home indefinitely – a shadow termination that doesn’t appear in official unemployment statistics.

Since the ceasefire, things in Iran have only worsened with war damage, soaring prices and a surge in unemployment Credit: Atta Kenare/AFP via Getty Images

...
“Things are getting more expensive by the hour,” said Jalal. “I don’t have much money. Even if I can find it, I want to wait for prices to get down and they sign a peace deal. But it does not happen.
“My life and young years are just burning in front of my eyes and I cannot do anything about it. There is a feeling of depression among the people I know and the war made it worse. We cannot do or plan anything.”

Iranians are struggling with the impact of a severe economic crisis and high inflation, fuelled by the geopolitical tensions between US, Israel and the Middle East Credit: Abedin Taherkenareh/Shutterstock

Jalal participated in January protests over rising prices – demonstrations that preceded the war by weeks. Those earlier grievances seem smaller in comparison now.
“We were not living in heaven before the war, either,” he said. “Now we are in the worst situation under a blockade.”
...
“We are living in a stranded situation, not knowing when they would bomb us again,” said Jalal.

The Iranian government has offered increased unemployment benefits and working capital provision, but implementation has been slow Credit: Abedin Taherkenareh/Shutterstock

The broader economic devastation extends far beyond tech workers and students.
DigiKala, Iran’s largest e-commerce platform, announced 200 job cuts. Steel sector workers face similar layoff
Petrochemical workers were sent on forced leave with no clarity about whether their jobs would remain.
...
The Tehran Chamber of Commerce has pleaded with businesses to treat job cuts as a “last priority”, appealing to patriotism and “responsibility that goes beyond corporate governance”.
But with revenue vanishing and costs soaring, many employers see no alternative.
Small and medium businesses are faced with especially severe pressure.
Unlike large state-connected enterprises that can access preferential credit or government contracts, smaller operators must survive on revenue alone. When that disappears, they are forced to close.

The government has offered increased unemployment benefits and has discussed tax deferrals, low-interest loans and working capital provision. But implementation has been slow, and amounts are inadequate.

Iran’s cost of living is out of control as Trump’s blockade takes hold

Millions are pushed into poverty and unemployment as the country’s economy continues to crumble

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/39e9c66fae66c46c

DreamTheMoors · 30/04/2026 05:33

Spandauer · 28/04/2026 23:09

There is no irony.
Donald is an idiot and every joke Charles III made during his address to the joint session of Congress flew over Donald’s head like a 747.
We all know he’s an idiot so I don’t know why there’s even a conversation.
I never did and never would vote for that jackass and I have questions for what’s his name - Twitter guy, Musk - on how Trump managed to win all the swing states when that’s almost impossible… was it messing around with votes???
What’d he do with Starlink?
Why hasn’t he answered any questions??
huh?
I wanna know.
I mean - would YOU put it about Trump & musk to cheat???
I wouldn’t.

BustingBaoBun · 30/04/2026 07:43

😁😅

His MAGAsty Meets His Majesty - Trump Thread #163
RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 07:48

The United States is studying and reviewing the possible reduction of Troops in Germany, with a determination to be made over the next short period of time,” Trump wrote on Truth Social on Wednesday.

That's on the CNN feed.

".... next short period of time,". Has he cottoned onto his overuse of "two weeks" ?

Efacsen · 30/04/2026 07:54

Trump continuing to do his bit in wrecking the world economy - or maybe more market manipulation - who knows

Oil price tops $120 a barrel after Trump warns Iran blockade could last ‘months’

Oil markets spooked as US president appears willing to maintain US Navy blockade and Iran keeps strait of Hormuz all but shut

Oil price tops $120 a barrel after Trump warns Iran blockade could last ‘months’ | Global economy | The Guardian

Oil price tops $120 a barrel after Trump warns Iran blockade could last ‘months’

Oil markets spooked as US president appears willing to maintain US Navy blockade and Iran keeps strait of Hormuz all but shut

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/apr/30/oil-price-news-highest-since-2022-us-iran-ceasefire-strait-of-hormuz

CaveMum · 30/04/2026 07:59

Fnar!

His MAGAsty Meets His Majesty - Trump Thread #163
TemporarilyCantDoMyself · 30/04/2026 08:02

CaveMum · 30/04/2026 07:59

Fnar!

That's too good! Bet Charlie's thinking pretty much the same thing...😂

Efacsen · 30/04/2026 08:09

Both @BustingBaoBun and @CaveMum 's pics are brilliantly funny and en point!

logicisall · 30/04/2026 08:21

Efacsen · 30/04/2026 07:54

Trump continuing to do his bit in wrecking the world economy - or maybe more market manipulation - who knows

Oil price tops $120 a barrel after Trump warns Iran blockade could last ‘months’

Oil markets spooked as US president appears willing to maintain US Navy blockade and Iran keeps strait of Hormuz all but shut

Oil price tops $120 a barrel after Trump warns Iran blockade could last ‘months’ | Global economy | The Guardian

When I filled up at Tesco on Sunday, unleaded was £1.529 a litre. On Tuesday as I drove by, noticed it is now £1.579.

Wipeywipey · 30/04/2026 08:23

Saudi hitting Trump in the golf balls https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/articles/cp3p9we4v0yo

And elsewhere https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/c5y9wdprpyyo
Armed Forces Minister Al Carns said the close co-operation between the two militaries was a "message that needed to be elevated". Since the conflict began "We've helped move Americans out of harms way; we've helped protect them and they've helped protect us," Carns said - though he stressed that British forces were in a "defensive posture".

Jon Rahm

LIV Golf: Saudi Arabia to withdraw funding at end of season

Saudi Arabia will withdraw its multi-billion dollar backing of LIV Golf at the end of the season, plunging the future of the series into doubt.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/golf/articles/cp3p9we4v0yo

logicisall · 30/04/2026 08:47

Is this a threat or the actual intention of full on war again?

Trump is to receive a briefing on Thursday on plans for military strikes on Iran in the hope that it will persuade Iran to return to negotiations on its nuclear programme, according to a report on Axios. Bloomberg reports that US Central Command has asked for hypersonic missiles to be sent to the Middle East.
(The Times)

The US military is reportedly considering sending its long-range hypersonic missile to the Middle East — to possibly strike ballistic-missile launchers embedded in Iran.
The request, which was made by US Central Command, justified the deployment of a hypersonic missile, arguing that the Iranian regime has moved its launchers out of range of the Precision Strike missile, which can hit targets more than 300 miles away, a person with direct knowledge told Bloomberg.
(MSN)

DuncinToffee · 30/04/2026 08:57

https://bsky.app/profile/shaunpinner.bsky.social/post/3mkomzv53kc26

It’s amazing that after an hour on the phone with Putin, Trump comes out a dithering wreck—mixing up countries and parroting Kremlin propaganda verbatim, claiming Ukraine has lost—in comments that are remarkable, even by his standards.

And now talk of removing troops from Germany?

Shaun Pinner (@shaunpinner.bsky.social)

It’s amazing that after an hour on the phone with Putin, Trump comes out a dithering wreck—mixing up countries and parroting Kremlin propaganda verbatim, claiming Ukraine has lost—in comments that are remarkable, even by his standards. And now talk of...

https://bsky.app/profile/shaunpinner.bsky.social/post/3mkomzv53kc26

logicisall · 30/04/2026 09:18

Taken from a comment on The Times article on request for hypersonic missiles.

The United States can bomb targets in Iran. What it has not been able to do is reopen the one waterway that matters. That gap - between military action and economic outcome - is now the story.

Each hint of new strikes doesn’t reassure the market. It does the opposite. It suggests the war is continuing without a plan to end it, which means the disruption continues too.

That is why prices rise on “weighing options”. Not because traders are over-excitable, but because they can see the options are all bad.

And there is a second-order effect people prefer to ignore: every extra dollar on the oil price is money flowing straight into Russia’s war effort.

So this is not just an inflation story. It is a reminder that you can start a war quickly, but if you haven’t worked out how it ends, the bill arrives elsewhere - and keeps arriving
😟

RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 10:05

logicisall · 30/04/2026 08:47

Is this a threat or the actual intention of full on war again?

Trump is to receive a briefing on Thursday on plans for military strikes on Iran in the hope that it will persuade Iran to return to negotiations on its nuclear programme, according to a report on Axios. Bloomberg reports that US Central Command has asked for hypersonic missiles to be sent to the Middle East.
(The Times)

The US military is reportedly considering sending its long-range hypersonic missile to the Middle East — to possibly strike ballistic-missile launchers embedded in Iran.
The request, which was made by US Central Command, justified the deployment of a hypersonic missile, arguing that the Iranian regime has moved its launchers out of range of the Precision Strike missile, which can hit targets more than 300 miles away, a person with direct knowledge told Bloomberg.
(MSN)

That makes no sense.

The US does not have any hypersonic missiles deployed. They are in development last I looked. The hypersonics claimed by Russia and the PRC are mostly considered hype.. cos physics.

Also, why use hypersonics at all ? Iran does not have missile interceptors.

Tomahawk missiles are precision, and they have a range of about 1500 miles. And the US can launch them with impunity from ships and subs.

The B52 can carry loads of cruise missiles. Each with a range of about 600 miles. And the US has their stealth bombers.

To say they need to use new stuff cos the targets are more than 300 miles away is nonsense.

Unless they have ran out of conventional stuff of course.

SerendipityJane · 30/04/2026 10:10

RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 10:05

That makes no sense.

The US does not have any hypersonic missiles deployed. They are in development last I looked. The hypersonics claimed by Russia and the PRC are mostly considered hype.. cos physics.

Also, why use hypersonics at all ? Iran does not have missile interceptors.

Tomahawk missiles are precision, and they have a range of about 1500 miles. And the US can launch them with impunity from ships and subs.

The B52 can carry loads of cruise missiles. Each with a range of about 600 miles. And the US has their stealth bombers.

To say they need to use new stuff cos the targets are more than 300 miles away is nonsense.

Unless they have ran out of conventional stuff of course.

It's just (yet) another grift for money.

Wipeywipey · 30/04/2026 10:13

I know I keep saying it but so far the only thing that has come out of this war is the lifting of sanctions to Russia, they are still the only country to benefit. You can assume that is accidental, or not.

RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 10:30

SerendipityJane · 30/04/2026 10:10

It's just (yet) another grift for money.

Yup. Found the missile they are talking about.

U.S. Army to deploy first operational Dark Eagle hypersonic missile with 3,500 km range in coming weeks (armyrecognition.com)

So they sold it on speed to get to target.

"The glide body relies on kinetic energy effects combined with a small warhead estimated at under 14 kilograms. Time-to-target for long-range strikes can be under 20 minutes, depending on launch location. The system is intended to engage hardened or time-sensitive targets such as air defenses, command nodes, and missile systems."

14Kg warhead. And kinetics of course.

$12 billion project. And, ahem..." Each missile has an estimated cost of $41 million based on earlier projections, with initial procurement costs expected to exceed that figure due to low production volumes"

And here it is... here is the stonker.

"The Dark Eagle system is part of a broader joint effort with the Navy, which plans to deploy a related variant on Zumwalt-class destroyers and Virginia-class submarines under the Conventional Prompt Strike program."

The Zumwalt class are two destroyers as folk will recall. About $1.5 billion each. They were supposed to carry a super long range gun to do battleship style bombardment, but the gun was scrapped cos the shells were $1 million a pop. So the Navy have these 2 super destroyers that can't actually do anything, and they have been trying to find something for them to do.

U.S. Army to deploy first operational Dark Eagle hypersonic missile with 3,500 km range in coming weeks

US Army prepares Dark Eagle hypersonic missile deployment with 3500 km range as testing and production continue toward operational capability in 2026

https://www.armyrecognition.com/news/army-news/2026/us-army-to-deploy-first-operational-dark-eagle-hypersonic-missile-with-3-500-km-range-in-coming-weeks#:~:text=The%20Dark%20Eagle%20system%20is%20a%20surface-to-surface%20boost-glide,exceeding%20Mach%205%20while%20maneuvering%20through%20the%20atmosphere.

RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 10:43

Re my post above about the dark eagle missile. $41million per missile.

WW2 operation fortitude comes to mind. The inflatable tanks ( att). Iran really just has to put loads of old or dummy launchers out. At $41 million cost to the US, that $25 billion cost so far will soon go up.

His MAGAsty Meets His Majesty - Trump Thread #163
Wipeywipey · 30/04/2026 10:48

Iran could coincide these plans with an area where they need a big hole or want a dam or similar. Wouldn't half save on digging costs.

SerendipityJane · 30/04/2026 10:54

Wipeywipey · 30/04/2026 10:48

Iran could coincide these plans with an area where they need a big hole or want a dam or similar. Wouldn't half save on digging costs.

Has any side in a war ever used the other side to provide cheap ground clearance for infrastructure projects ?

Why pay contractors to demolish something when your enemy will do it for free ?

RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 10:56

Wipeywipey · 30/04/2026 10:48

Iran could coincide these plans with an area where they need a big hole or want a dam or similar. Wouldn't half save on digging costs.

Good idea. A variation on Operation Ploughshare. When they wanted to use nukes to dig canals.

Problem is, and there is always a problem... physics. The warhead is only 14 Kg. That's about twice that of a standard 155mm Howitzer shell. The JDAM kitted bombs Israel use to demolish houses are 500Kg. So these $41mill missiles won't make a very big hole.

Wipeywipey · 30/04/2026 11:05

RedTagAlan · 30/04/2026 10:56

Good idea. A variation on Operation Ploughshare. When they wanted to use nukes to dig canals.

Problem is, and there is always a problem... physics. The warhead is only 14 Kg. That's about twice that of a standard 155mm Howitzer shell. The JDAM kitted bombs Israel use to demolish houses are 500Kg. So these $41mill missiles won't make a very big hole.

Quantity not quality counts with US, surely? Throwing 20 mosquitos at the ground a hole will not make, but get the biggliest amount of them ever SEEN and I bet they could at least have a nice pool.

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