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Itsmetheflamingo · 14/04/2026 19:46

powersthatbe · 14/04/2026 19:44

Jesus, no i didnt remotely say that at all? How did you extrapolate that?

A firm like MS has crisis PR teams to help them deal with certain incidents affecting the business/it’s staff and reputations. Its “possible”via her DHs employment that she had access to this kind of support. It would explain the wiping of all onlien history (which crisis pr teams routinely arrange).

Wiping internet history is hardly crisis PR.

LlynTegid · 14/04/2026 19:47

MrsKateColumbo · 14/04/2026 17:47

I do think the main takeaway here is the massive SUVs, I live in london and everybody seems to have them (except me and my skoda!) They are dangerous in cities with a dense population, and drivers seem to merrily pull off drives without looking for kids

They are potentially dangerous everywhere.

I have long believed they should be a separate category of car licence for them and high performance cars. You would have higher medical standards, and you would have to keep a clean car licence for standard cars before you could have the separate category granted to you. If you are ever banned or even have more than a certain level of points, that period re-starts.

Many people have such vehicles because of the large number of others who do, a sort of size race.

powersthatbe · 14/04/2026 19:51

Itsmetheflamingo · 14/04/2026 19:46

Wiping internet history is hardly crisis PR.

No, of course it is not and we all know, but it may be a part of the work that is done by such a team.

HJ40 · 14/04/2026 20:48

I agree with pp that it may well be the outcome doesn’t change but the way it’s been handled is the issue. And yes, I fully believe it feasible that Morgan Stanley’s comms department would help/manage the situation.

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 20:49

This is all aboslute nonsense

These arent the royal family or some aristocrat, he's just a banker.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 14/04/2026 20:52

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 20:49

This is all aboslute nonsense

These arent the royal family or some aristocrat, he's just a banker.

This, with bells on

Itsmetheflamingo · 14/04/2026 20:57

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 20:49

This is all aboslute nonsense

These arent the royal family or some aristocrat, he's just a banker.

💯. Plus what is even the conspiracy? That she did it intentionally? On a murder spree?She clearly wasn’t drunk or under the influence of street drugs. Why else would someone crash through a playing field and take out a load of kids and furniture if not a medical emergency?!

I reckon she/ her husband is a wanker generally and the locals all hate her anyway, so have decided there must be something nefarious behind the accident

StillSpartacus · 14/04/2026 20:57

I don’t think you need to be a rabid conspiracist to think that it is significant that 11 police officers, including senior ranks are being investigated for for their poor handling of the investigation. Or that the removal of photos from the internet along with any speculative press coverage has been a managed process. It’s fairly accurate to observe that most people without significant financial resources are not able to tidy up interest quite so comprehensively.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 14/04/2026 21:04

StillSpartacus · 14/04/2026 20:57

I don’t think you need to be a rabid conspiracist to think that it is significant that 11 police officers, including senior ranks are being investigated for for their poor handling of the investigation. Or that the removal of photos from the internet along with any speculative press coverage has been a managed process. It’s fairly accurate to observe that most people without significant financial resources are not able to tidy up interest quite so comprehensively.

Yet here you are, speculating...

Nickyknackered · 14/04/2026 21:09

Am I missing something? What do you all think she's guilty of? Lying to get away with deliberately driving in to a school garden to kill children? Why would she do that?

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:12

pancakestastelikecrepe · 14/04/2026 19:38

Honestly the absolute batshit comments suggesting monied people can utilise lawyers, to somehow evade a police investigation - behave!
IANAL but I lived with (a Legal 500) one.
An expensive lawyer(s) cannot influence a police investigation!

You sound insane and moreover, the frothing obsession with Fremantle's wealth is at best poor taste, at worst bordering on minimising the tragedy

It's incredibly naive to think that having money and influence, being well connected couldn't possibly influence a police investigation. Of course it can, and that's probably why the police are being investigated now.

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 21:13

What is the poor handling exactly?

The way I see it, traumatised and grieving parents who are extremely rich themselves have unfortunatley forced the police to keep going at something that seems to have no legs.

guestsareinvited · 14/04/2026 21:14

LlynTegid · 14/04/2026 19:47

They are potentially dangerous everywhere.

I have long believed they should be a separate category of car licence for them and high performance cars. You would have higher medical standards, and you would have to keep a clean car licence for standard cars before you could have the separate category granted to you. If you are ever banned or even have more than a certain level of points, that period re-starts.

Many people have such vehicles because of the large number of others who do, a sort of size race.

There is a separate category for heavy vehicles, and you do have to have a car licence (I'm not certain about clean). The cut off is 3500kg. Anyone who passed their driving test after about 1997 already has to have extra medicals and extra tests to drive anything with even the potential to be legally loaded to anything heavier than that. Paramedics do, for example. It costs about £1000, and isn't super difficult, isn't likely to deter rich folks, and the medical doesn't include anything which would catch potential epilepsy. I have C1 licence. I do not think it makes me a better or safer driver.

I'm not arguing for them, but do you honestly think if someone passed out in a mini and plowed through a children's party, there wouldn't have been life changing injuries and fatalities?

For context, a Kia EV3 is about gross weight is around 2400kg. A landrover defender, around 2900kg It's weightier, sure. But not exactly 'a tank' as people are saying. A white van is typically 3500kg and nobody minds them on the roads, calls them tanks or says they are potentially dangerous everywhere. I appreciate they are a bit wanky and people don't like them. They scream ostentatious wealth and annoy me a bit, too. But I don't think it's logical to label them inherently dangerous. If you bring the limit down to 2800kg to stop people driving wanky defenders, you impact on plumbers and Amazon drivers and a million other non-wanky folk. (A 'little' van that fits in a regular parking space like a T6 is typically 2800kg GVW) They will add the cost to their prices that non-wanky people have to pay. And who, when buying a 97k Defender, is going to baulk at an extra grand on a special licence?

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:14

Nickyknackered · 14/04/2026 21:09

Am I missing something? What do you all think she's guilty of? Lying to get away with deliberately driving in to a school garden to kill children? Why would she do that?

The speculation is/was that there was something in her history that meant she knew she shouldn't be driving. Of course she wouldn't have set out to kill those poor children but it's possible she hadn't reported health issues that would have prevented her from driving.

ThePoshUns · 14/04/2026 21:16

It’s all over the news. I thought at the time the epileptic fit defence was dodgy, I am so glad for the family that it’s being re investigated and that they get the justice they deserve, be it tje driver is charged or the officers who didn’t investigate properly get their just deserts.

BridgetJonesV2 · 14/04/2026 21:16

DH has got a LR, it's a massive beast of a truck and we both did the LR off roader driving course which was brilliant in terms of handling/using the right settings. We live rurally I would add and the truck is a lifeline in winter. But in comparison to my bog standard car, it's a hell of a heavy car to steer/drive and I don't enjoy driving it anywhere near as much as DH does. I have to say that the majority of women I see driving these on the school run on my way into work have no idea how to manoeuvre them whatsoever and are frankly a danger to themselves and every other road user.

I feel hugely for the families of the little girls who died that day. Justice hasn't ever been within touching distance for them.

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:17

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 21:13

What is the poor handling exactly?

The way I see it, traumatised and grieving parents who are extremely rich themselves have unfortunatley forced the police to keep going at something that seems to have no legs.

The head of the school also complained that the investigation was badly handled.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 14/04/2026 21:17

Nickyknackered · 14/04/2026 21:09

Am I missing something? What do you all think she's guilty of? Lying to get away with deliberately driving in to a school garden to kill children? Why would she do that?

Well I suppose the obvious is to avoid a prison sentence.
However, plenty of PPs seem to think her being wealthy means she's some how able to avoid prosecution 🤪

I'd bet she's absolutely devastated, and that the day haunts her every waking moment - as it would everyone on this thread 🙁

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:20

I'm not arguing for them, but do you honestly think if someone passed out in a mini and plowed through a children's party, there wouldn't have been life changing injuries and fatalities?

I think there's a real possibility that had this been a small car with a normal sized engine, it would never have breached the fence to get as far as the children's party. So yes, outcomes could have been every different if it were a lighter less powerful car.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 14/04/2026 21:24

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 21:13

What is the poor handling exactly?

The way I see it, traumatised and grieving parents who are extremely rich themselves have unfortunatley forced the police to keep going at something that seems to have no legs.

Sadly, this is my inference too 😕

Nickyknackered · 14/04/2026 21:24

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:14

The speculation is/was that there was something in her history that meant she knew she shouldn't be driving. Of course she wouldn't have set out to kill those poor children but it's possible she hadn't reported health issues that would have prevented her from driving.

Ah speculation! Gotcha!

damemaggiescurledupperlip · 14/04/2026 21:24

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:14

The speculation is/was that there was something in her history that meant she knew she shouldn't be driving. Of course she wouldn't have set out to kill those poor children but it's possible she hadn't reported health issues that would have prevented her from driving.

But how were the police supposed to prove this? Off the top of my head, if they've obtained her medical history, talked to her doctors, questioned friends, family, workmates and gym-mates as to medical episodes, checked that she’s converted all her prescriptions , and that there is no evidence of her doing anything - eg drinking alcohol - that might nullify her medication …. what else can they do?

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 21:26

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:14

The speculation is/was that there was something in her history that meant she knew she shouldn't be driving. Of course she wouldn't have set out to kill those poor children but it's possible she hadn't reported health issues that would have prevented her from driving.

And where is the evidence of this?

Why is this woman being set out from tons of other drivers where awful tragedies happen? I can only think its because she is white and rich, she is seen as some sort of bad person and her husband being a banker is also brought into that

mahiki · 14/04/2026 21:27

JulietteHasAGun · 14/04/2026 17:44

There were some interesting posts last time from someone with local knowledge/gossip. Obviously we have no idea how true it was and sadly I can’t remember what they said!

Yes I remember the thread too, but not the posts, annoyingly.

likelysuspect · 14/04/2026 21:27

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 21:17

The head of the school also complained that the investigation was badly handled.

Meaning what exactly though and what does a head of school know about police investigations?

What would be different for her or you to say it was well handled?

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