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Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 10:49

FlorenceAndTheVagine · 15/04/2026 10:47

I believe Claire Freemantle owns a few large labradors.

I don’t know if this is some kind of cryptic joke or you’re implying that loose dogs inside the car caused her to crash, and that this evidence has never made it into the public domain?

Trampoline · 15/04/2026 10:51

Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 10:23

I’m unsure why you don’t also see the money and status of the parents and school as equally influential in this? It’s actually extremely difficult to get images removed from the internet, news organisations have very deep pockets and case law is on their side.

One of girls’ mothers was chair of the PTA and herself worked in investment banking, both sets of parents are wealthy and are represented by a law firm who have a whole page dedicated to the case https://www.moorebarlow.com/services/personal/injury/major-trauma/wimbledon-school-tragedy/.

By all means point out that the driver is wealthy, connected and ‘lawyered up’ but at least acknowledge that the families are equally as well armed.

Influential in what? Yes they are professional articulate people with no doubt high income - which of course gives them an advantage in being able to try and escalate the case - but wouldn't you do that if you were sitting there with no progress, no answers? Are you suggesting that they've put themselves through media interviews - at a time when they've faced unimaginable devastation and the trauma of personal injury - just because they can? Do you not believe they have good reason to ask for more or for better?
Oh, lucky them that they can. Come on.

bendmeoverbackwards · 15/04/2026 10:53

Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 10:49

I don’t know if this is some kind of cryptic joke or you’re implying that loose dogs inside the car caused her to crash, and that this evidence has never made it into the public domain?

Edited

I don’t understand this point either.

Paganpentacle · 15/04/2026 10:54

Eesha · 14/04/2026 13:46

She was rearrested but is just seems like its been covered up by great lawyers

Ive just seen it on the national news... how is it being covered up?

Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 10:56

Trampoline · 15/04/2026 10:51

Influential in what? Yes they are professional articulate people with no doubt high income - which of course gives them an advantage in being able to try and escalate the case - but wouldn't you do that if you were sitting there with no progress, no answers? Are you suggesting that they've put themselves through media interviews - at a time when they've faced unimaginable devastation and the trauma of personal injury - just because they can? Do you not believe they have good reason to ask for more or for better?
Oh, lucky them that they can. Come on.

None of that responds to what I said.

Yes, the parents have a vested interest in keeping it in the news, who can blame them for doing so. The school also have a vested interest. Not every parent who loses a child in a horrific way has the resources or support to keep it in the news this way, or to push for a reopening of the investigation. Their status and financial position has enabled them
to do that. I don’t blame them for that at all, but it is a fact and one that you and others are overlooking when pointing to the influence and money of the driver. Who of course also had a vested interest in keeping out of the news, and is - on the facts as currently known - innocent of any wrongdoing.

All I’m saying is, be truthful about this. If it was a crash into a failing Blackpool primary school, no-one would be discussing it anymore.

Helpboat · 15/04/2026 10:59

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 07:47

On her phone? Distracted by something else? In a hurry and not giving due care to the speed or the bend? Plenty of reasons which she would prefer to avoid being found guilty of.

For that you may hit a nearby wall or person. She mounted a pavement and drove some good distance into a school … being distracted by your phone surely wouldn’t do that

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 11:11

I’m not so sure - obviously I don’t know - but the only aerial picture we see is where her tank car ended up. We don’t know where on the lawn the poor girls were. If she was travelling at speed, it won’t have taken long to cover that distance.

Helpboat · 15/04/2026 11:14

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 11:11

I’m not so sure - obviously I don’t know - but the only aerial picture we see is where her tank car ended up. We don’t know where on the lawn the poor girls were. If she was travelling at speed, it won’t have taken long to cover that distance.

This is why it needs to be investigated properly and all evidence gathered tested in court. They probably have done the bare minimum and taken her word for the ‘epilepsy claim’.

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 11:21

Yes, agree.

And I also agree with pp who have said it’s only still in the news (yes, it really is OP!) because the girls’s parents are also wealthy and lawyered up. It may well be that the issue with the police is process, and the outcome doesn’t change, but the correct course of action needs to be followed.

Duvetdayneeded · 15/04/2026 11:23

Isn’t this the fault of the CPS?

JustAlice · 15/04/2026 11:26

There was an "AIBU to feel sorry for the woman in Wimbledon car crash" thread about a year ago with at least 3 posters repeating her side of the story over and over again, but probably due to unsympathetic reaction her PR company decided not to bother with MN this time 😁or will join us later.
Anyway, if no evidence was collected at the time of the crash that she was on her phone/drunk etc, she'll likely get away with epilepsy story.

FernandoSor · 15/04/2026 11:28

Condbottle · 14/04/2026 15:58

I think the suspicion was/is that she shouldn't have been driving. She claimed the fit was a one off, first ever, but that may not have been true.

Also the HT at the school claimed they were never interviewed and felt that had evidence to offer, although I don't know what that could be.

For me, I don't know why it didn't open a much bigger discussion about the size and power of SUVs, because that was a monster, and whilst being hit by any car can be devastating, I suspect a smaller, less powerful vehicle would never have breached the fence.

But yes, also rich and well connected and very good lawyers.

I think the suspicion is she paid a doctor in Dubai for a diagnosis and the police bought it.

Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 11:30

JustAlice · 15/04/2026 11:26

There was an "AIBU to feel sorry for the woman in Wimbledon car crash" thread about a year ago with at least 3 posters repeating her side of the story over and over again, but probably due to unsympathetic reaction her PR company decided not to bother with MN this time 😁or will join us later.
Anyway, if no evidence was collected at the time of the crash that she was on her phone/drunk etc, she'll likely get away with epilepsy story.

Edited

Well on the facts as they are known at the moment, I feel sorry for her. Sudden onset seizure resulting in the death of two children and serious injury to one of the mothers, having to live with that forever? Awful.

@Duvetdayneeded How can it be the ‘fault’ of the CPS?

GingerBeverage · 15/04/2026 11:30

From the linked article.

Why is the Wimbledon school crash investigation not getting more attention?
Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 11:31

FernandoSor · 15/04/2026 11:28

I think the suspicion is she paid a doctor in Dubai for a diagnosis and the police bought it.

🤣

The whole point is that she didn’t have a prior diagnosis!

ETA while it’s obviously possible she could have had prior seizures and kept it quiet, how realistic is that really? If you had a seizure, would you really never seek medical advice? I find that preposterous.

DeftGoldHedgehog · 15/04/2026 11:32

HelenaWilson · 14/04/2026 13:47

Attention from where? It's on the bbc. It's in the Daily Mail and presumably other newspapers. What else are you looking for?

Indeed, I heard about this on Monday morning on the news!

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 11:36

Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 11:31

🤣

The whole point is that she didn’t have a prior diagnosis!

ETA while it’s obviously possible she could have had prior seizures and kept it quiet, how realistic is that really? If you had a seizure, would you really never seek medical advice? I find that preposterous.

Edited

I thought the poster means a post-accident diagnosis?

DeftGoldHedgehog · 15/04/2026 11:37

Wimbledon Prep School Fees are >£22,000 per annum

Why are the families of the victims any less capable of being lawyered up than the driver?

A bit racist to imply they are impoverished or disadvantaged when they are in the 1%

MaturingCheeseball · 15/04/2026 11:39

JustAlice · 15/04/2026 11:26

There was an "AIBU to feel sorry for the woman in Wimbledon car crash" thread about a year ago with at least 3 posters repeating her side of the story over and over again, but probably due to unsympathetic reaction her PR company decided not to bother with MN this time 😁or will join us later.
Anyway, if no evidence was collected at the time of the crash that she was on her phone/drunk etc, she'll likely get away with epilepsy story.

Edited

Yes - I was savaged! I refused to give in!

There were posters arguing that there was no reason why she couldn’t drive still. All very odd. I suppose we could extend not exactly sympathy but some feeling for the driver as it is a terrible position to be in. But it’s something else to be determined to cast this incident as “nothing to see here” “case closed” and “she has a right to drive”.

Allisnotlost1 · 15/04/2026 11:44

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 11:36

I thought the poster means a post-accident diagnosis?

I think they do mean that, but what I mean is what would be the purpose of doing so? A post-accident diagnosis neither proves or disproves that she knew beforehand.

It’s not medically possible to prove she had a seizure at that time, only to conclude based on other factors. No reason she’d need a ‘Dubai doctor’ to do that, a doctor here could do just as easily. The issue is whether she had a pre-diagnosis or a history of uncontrolled seizures. One imagines the police review her medical records (though I suppose they may not have and that’s part of the review). I just can’t see how a diagnosis after the fact is of any use either way.

Condbottle · 15/04/2026 11:59

I can have some sympathy for her. If she had a medical incident over which she had no control and no prior experience, what happened to her is awful too, and must be very difficult to live with. TBH it would be difficult to live with even if she made poor decisions which make her culpable. I can understand why she'd want to stay out of the public eye and why, as she has the means, she might pay people to help that happen.

I think there are a few questions, mostly for the police. There is obviously "something" off about the original investigation, although I suspect that will be much more about the police conduct than any great cover up. I do think having friends in the right places helps enormously in all aspects of life, so it's entirely possible that being well connected has helped her, but probably by knowing the system and process more than actually avoiding prosecution.

I think the Dubai doctor is likely to be a red herring. After something like that happened, if you were wealthy, you'd probably take yourself off somewhere and see a doctor there, if necessary.

I think the fact that she seems to be driving again makes her seem unsympathetic, but her life goes on too, and she's probably been advised to "get back on the horse" if the medical condition is now considered managed. I imagine most of us would find that very hard to do, but that doesn't mean we wouldn't find a way to do it, if the alternative affected our own DC's lives.

pancakestastelikecrepe · 15/04/2026 12:55

@MaturingCheeseball Why do you think she did it? Do you think the lack of swerving could point to it being a terror related incident? Given you're so invested in a foul play theory, what's your hot take?

january1244 · 15/04/2026 13:02

HJ40 · 15/04/2026 11:11

I’m not so sure - obviously I don’t know - but the only aerial picture we see is where her tank car ended up. We don’t know where on the lawn the poor girls were. If she was travelling at speed, it won’t have taken long to cover that distance.

There was a video taken by helicopter at the time. The picnic blankets were in the middle of the lawn. It wasn’t such a big distance from the fence, looked like a few feet.

JulietteHasAGun · 15/04/2026 13:10

bendmeoverbackwards · 15/04/2026 10:44

What I don’t understand is if it wasn’t a medical emergency, what is the explanation? If it was dangerous driving/looking at phone, surely there would have been braking once she’d driven through the fence?

There is a thing called pedal confusion where people keep their foot on the accelerator thinking they are braking 🤷‍♀️. It’s a possibility.

JulietteHasAGun · 15/04/2026 13:14

FernandoSor · 15/04/2026 11:28

I think the suspicion is she paid a doctor in Dubai for a diagnosis and the police bought it.

Would be interesting to hear if an nhs doctor would have diagnosed her at the same threshold.