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A whole civilisation will die tonight.

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todayImstruggling · 07/04/2026 13:37

Tumps exact words today!

WTAF? That sounds like he is about to drop a Nuke!

How the hell has the world got here?

Trumps truth social posts sounds more like something that a dramatic gleeful tv presenter would say in a game show. Not something a world leader threatening to blow up an entire civilisation.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565

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PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 22:57

Weemammy21 · 07/04/2026 22:30

@PrettyPickle Are you joking or just plain blind? The US military has gone from different countries such as Iraq and Afghanistan and murdered innocent civilians so of course people don't believe a word you are saying. Are you based in a US military base by any chance? The US and now Trump have made themselves very clear that all they are interested in stealing oil and keeping the profits from Venezuela to Iran, stealing the land of Palestinians so they can build and profit from hotels, toppling the Iraq regime based on lies of WMD so as to steal and this is just the same. More American lies to cover the fact they go from country to country to steal, plunder and profiteer from poorer countries natural resources and the murder innocent civilians is inconsequential to them.

What are you reading, I have said none of this? I'm British born and bred and live here. I think I have made it pretty clear in my last post alone, that I am not a Trump supporter.

BUT, just because the US Administration is more than questionable (I am being polite), it does not make all Americans, all military personnel his followers. There are lots of good Americans that are just as appalled as us but they need to find their voices and I think this latest debacle could be the catalyst.

ObsessiveGoogler · 07/04/2026 22:59

@elprup but that article states “The sentiments of those passing through Kapıköy – largely western-facing, often well-educated and with money in their pockets – cannot be said to be a fair straw poll of sentiment in Iran.”

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 23:01

Llttledrummergirls · 07/04/2026 22:33

Hes a bombastic idiot who chooses bluster and hyperbole to shout over others and lamblast them into submission

An uncouth bully who would threaten genocide to stop people talking about his cover up of the Epstein files. Someone who boasts of paying for a children's pageant so he could go behind the scenes and watch the children while naked, who is best friends with a convicted paedophile and who is mentioned in the files so many times.

He is utter scum.

Your description and mine are not mutually exclusive. I would if I could, but personality transplants are not within my ability.

PersonalJaysus · 07/04/2026 23:03

Moonmelodies · 07/04/2026 21:25

Anyone else in the UK setting their alarm clock for 1am for when the show starts?

What’s wrong with you? What a shameful thing to say

elprup · 07/04/2026 23:06

ObsessiveGoogler · 07/04/2026 22:59

@elprup but that article states “The sentiments of those passing through Kapıköy – largely western-facing, often well-educated and with money in their pockets – cannot be said to be a fair straw poll of sentiment in Iran.”

True. But its an interesting snapshot all the same.

ThatMauveMaker · 07/04/2026 23:07

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 07/04/2026 13:42

The man has the vocabulary of a over dramatic 5 year old.

But yes, those words do indeed sound like a threat of genocide.

Very tense times 😳

Sorry, irrelvant and completely off topic...are you a Pulp fan?

Hallamule · 07/04/2026 23:13

BluebellShmoobell · 07/04/2026 22:21

They are in this country but have relatives still there as far as I know. Lovely, kind souls who speak of iran as this beautiful country that could be so fruitful for us all but just been held back and down by brutality.

And all this is true but diasporas don't speak for the people on the ground, nor do their interests necessarily align.

IncessantNameChanger · 07/04/2026 23:16

ilovepuppies2019 · 07/04/2026 21:58

Reports from inside Iran have said that any support for Trump has disappeared. There no surprise given the US bombed a school full of children, has stated they they intend to bomb the majority of civilian infrastructure and have threatened to invade and destroy the civilians livelihood via the oil. Prior to Trump, negotiations were close to getting the enriched uranium. Now Trump has very successfully locked in support for the current regime, killed the leaders who disnt want a nuke and replaced them with hardliners and given the Iran Government an amazing way of getting billions of dollars per day to rebuild their arsenal. Just like Israel’s attack on Gaza, they have guaranteed the creation of future generations of terrorists and slaughtered huge numbers of civilians. Nothing about this war has come even close to helping the Iranian people or removing terrorism. It’s guaranteed the opposite.
how utterly heartbreaking. Trump and Netanyahu need to be removed as fast a possible.

I do think there is going to be a uptick in terror attacks. There's no way this will pass without fallout.

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 23:18

henlake7 · 07/04/2026 15:13

He is legit like some kind of cartoon villain....its like watching Cyril Sneer!
How the hell did we even get to a place where someone like that can make any decision more complicated then 'tea or coffee?'.
Makes you wonder what history will say about this period, doesnt it?

The American people voted him in.

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 23:20

BluebellShmoobell · 07/04/2026 22:21

They are in this country but have relatives still there as far as I know. Lovely, kind souls who speak of iran as this beautiful country that could be so fruitful for us all but just been held back and down by brutality.

Its awful isn't it. So many countries held back by a brutal regime and its proxies. However, they don't care what Trump says or does since they don't worry or care to protect their citizens. The evil regime versus a narcissist president . Only innocents lose out though.

SpringAndSunshineIsHere · 07/04/2026 23:20

Perfidia · 07/04/2026 13:46

A person might wonder why he has not yet been sectioned …

Please hurry up America!!! 📣📣📣

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 23:21

Moonmelodies · 07/04/2026 21:25

Anyone else in the UK setting their alarm clock for 1am for when the show starts?

Show?

justasking111 · 07/04/2026 23:24

Israel is part of this though. It's not just the Americans. Why are we talking as if Trump is completely in charge?

pollyglot · 07/04/2026 23:26

Ihatetomatoes · Today 23:18
henlake7 · Today 15:13
He is legit like some kind of cartoon villain....its like watching Cyril Sneer!
How the hell did we even get to a place where someone like that can make any decision more complicated then 'tea or coffee?'.
Makes you wonder what history will say about this period, doesnt it?

The American people voted him in.

For the very reason given in the last sentence, the American people must be held accountable for the actions of their leader. They were aware of what he was and is,and cannot now slope-shoulder the whole shitshow. If reparations are what it will take to set the world to rights, just a little, then they must pay the price.

Ohnobackagain · 07/04/2026 23:31

Easy for me to say @todayImstruggling but stay strong and try not to go down the ‘what if’ route. Don’t offer him anything. Apart from the Will, do you have any letter of intent from your Aunt, or comms about letting him live there?

alspancakeworld · 07/04/2026 23:32

Can’t even imagine how mothers felt tucking their children in tonight not knowing what will happen and if they’ll be alive in the morning.

trump is truly a vile, evil human being.

ChinaDina · 07/04/2026 23:32

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 22:24

What people need to understand is Trumps communication style, it is a form of disruptive communication strategy. It has a few recognisable features:

High‑intensity language to dominate the conversation - he uses dramatic, aggressive, or extreme phrasing which forces everyone to react. It shifts the agenda instantly and grabs attention. Communication researchers call this agenda‑seizing - creating a message so loud that all other topics fall away. Hence deflecting away from the Epstein files.

Challenging behaviour to unsettle opponents - Interruptions, confrontational statements and unpredictable shifts in tone can make others lose their footing. This is sometimes described as destabilisation rhetoric. It is not about persuasion - it is about control of the interaction.

Breaking norms to signal strength - When someone repeatedly ignores expected political or diplomatic norms, it can be interpreted by supporters as “authenticity,” “toughness” and “refusing to play the game.” Political communication scholars call this norm‑violation signalling. That is why a lot of Americans voted for him in my opinion, he was different from the traditional Statesmen, but I think their fingers have been burnt.

Creating urgency to command attention - Dramatic statements i.e. “A whole civilisation will die tonight, never to be brought back again" even if not tied to policy detail - creates a sense of crisis or immediacy. This is a well‑documented technique known as crisis framing. It makes people feel they must pay attention and it certainly worked on here.

Using conflict as a communication tool - Trump uses confrontation deliberately because conflict spreads faster, gets more media coverage, activates strong emotions, and keeps him at the centre of the narrative. This is sometimes A whole civilisation will die tonight, never to be brought back again.

Why this style “makes people sit up and listen,” not because people agree but because:

  • it is unpredictable.
  • it is emotionally charged.
  • it breaks the usual pattern.
  • it triggers strong reactions.
  • it dominates headlines.
  • it forces others to respond.

In communication theory, this is called attention capture. It is the same principle used in advertising, activism, and crisis PR - intensity cuts through noise.

So, I suppose what I am saying is that it is basically the political equivalent of someone walking into a quiet room, knocking over a chair, and announcing themselves loudly. You may not like the style, but you certainly cannot ignore the entrance.

I really struggle with people like this, it can work when its new (he did get NATO to up their spending with his straight talking) but after a while it just becomes counter productive because, you grow to expect it, you become wary, long term stability is doubted, opponents start to adjust to the style, it tires people and more importantly, it undermines trust. For his first term in his presidency, he didn't get to where we are now. So he has to start pulling bigger and bigger stunts to keep attention and the momentum. Its just too much.

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Excellent post. I would only add that this kind of chaos/disruptive/norm-shattering strategising only works in the short term, and absolutely yes, it requires ever-more outrageous amplification before everyone realises that its all an empty, echoing, meaningless shriek.

I love the post upthread that Trump's going to need the Epstein files to distract from the Iranian disgrace. That kind of nails the awful madness.

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 23:39

pollyglot · 07/04/2026 23:26

Ihatetomatoes · Today 23:18
henlake7 · Today 15:13
He is legit like some kind of cartoon villain....its like watching Cyril Sneer!
How the hell did we even get to a place where someone like that can make any decision more complicated then 'tea or coffee?'.
Makes you wonder what history will say about this period, doesnt it?

The American people voted him in.

For the very reason given in the last sentence, the American people must be held accountable for the actions of their leader. They were aware of what he was and is,and cannot now slope-shoulder the whole shitshow. If reparations are what it will take to set the world to rights, just a little, then they must pay the price.

Hes extended the deadline

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 23:40

justasking111 · 07/04/2026 23:24

Israel is part of this though. It's not just the Americans. Why are we talking as if Trump is completely in charge?

Probably due to the fact that it's only him stating he will wipe out an entire civilisation....

Viviennemary · 07/04/2026 23:41

Ihatetomatoes · 07/04/2026 23:39

Hes extended the deadline

There's a surprise. Not. Extended for 2 weeks.

pollyglot · 07/04/2026 23:41

Ihatetomatoes · Today 23:39
pollyglot · Today 23:26
Ihatetomatoes · Today 23:18
henlake7 · Today 15:13
He is legit like some kind of cartoon villain....its like watching Cyril Sneer!
How the hell did we even get to a place where someone like that can make any decision more complicated then 'tea or coffee?'.
Makes you wonder what history will say about this period, doesnt it?

The American people voted him in.

For the very reason given in the last sentence, the American people must be held accountable for the actions of their leader. They were aware of what he was and is,and cannot now slope-shoulder the whole shitshow. If reparations are what it will take to set the world to rights, just a little, then they must pay the price.

Hes extended the deadline

Of course he has. What else was he going to do? Doesn't alter the facts, though, of American culpability. They are responsible for the deeds of their leader, since they gave him their mandate.

ChinaDina · 07/04/2026 23:44

And as predicted. How much money and how many lives have been sunk and lost in this insane brinkmanship?

He is a disgrace.

IdentityCris · 07/04/2026 23:44

The extension of the deadline is dependent on Iran opening the Straits of Hormuz.

TheseWordsAreMine · 07/04/2026 23:47

Trump 0 - 1 Iran

pollyglot · 07/04/2026 23:50

I feel for my American relatives, vehemently anti-trump to the extent of emigrating. Fact remains though, this is the price of democracy, the people speak, they take responsibility.

The price also, of allowing an education system to become a joke. Ignorance is cool.
UK, take note...yours is heading the same way.

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