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A whole civilisation will die tonight.

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todayImstruggling · 07/04/2026 13:37

Tumps exact words today!

WTAF? That sounds like he is about to drop a Nuke!

How the hell has the world got here?

Trumps truth social posts sounds more like something that a dramatic gleeful tv presenter would say in a game show. Not something a world leader threatening to blow up an entire civilisation.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565

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Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:42

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:41

I hope your fucking joking.

I hope Donald is not joking. A strong great world leader.

LifeonMarss · 07/04/2026 20:42

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:40

Trump is the Best US President ever. Do you lot criticising him to not want Iran to make nukes? NO. Then let the bombs drop soon tonight.

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poor attempt at trying to rile people up

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:43

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:42

I hope Donald is not joking. A strong great world leader.

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I think we all hope that...

ThatCyanCat · 07/04/2026 20:43

LifeonMarss · 07/04/2026 20:42

poor attempt at trying to rile people up

Agree. Even Facebook gives better ragebait than that these days. Kids today don't know what they're doing.

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:44

LifeonMarss · 07/04/2026 20:42

poor attempt at trying to rile people up

No, am serious. Iran is a very dangerous country and their leaders are far crazier than he is. Open the Straits and the threat goes away.

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 20:44

BerthaPotts · 07/04/2026 20:03

When the BBC asked for clarification of Trump's threats, they didn't openly deny the use of nukes.

Asked by the BBC to clarify its stance on using nuclear weapons, the White House sent the following statement from Leavitt: "The Iranian regime has until 8PM Eastern Time to meet the moment and make a deal with the United States. Only the President knows where things stand and what he will do."

OK, so I heard it differently.

US officials have been clarifying that nuclear weapons are not on the table.
In the last 24 hours, multiple reputable outlets (including BBC, Sky, Reuters and AP) have reported statements from:

  • US defence officials
  • State Department spokespeople
  • National Security Council briefers
…all emphasising that:
  • The US response being discussed is conventional, not nuclear.
  • No one in the administration has suggested nuclear use.
  • The rhetoric online is not reflective of actual military planning.
BBC News in particular has been careful to say something along the lines of: US officials say they are not referring to nuclear weapons.

That’s the line I heard but I can't prove it as it was a live broadcast and not on the web. But I can give you some links from some of the reputable news outlets mentioned above:

Link: https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/ (reuters.com in Bing)
Look for the line (paraphrased):
US officials said discussions were focused on conventional military responses.
Reuters is extremely careful with wording, so this is a strong source.

BBC’s Middle East coverage included statements from the US State Department spokespeople clarifying that nuclear weapons were not being signalled.
BBC Middle East page: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/middle_east (bbc.co.uk in Bing)
The exact line I heard on TV was from a broadcast, not the website, but the written coverage reflects the same message:
US officials say the options being considered are conventional.

National Security Council — Associated Press (AP)
AP News reported that NSC briefers emphasised that the US was not referring to nuclear options.
AP News Middle East section: https://apnews.com/hub/middle-east (apnews.com in Bing)
AP summarised it as: A senior administration official said the US response under discussion involves conventional capabilities.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world/middle_east

Sueandthegoldfish · 07/04/2026 20:47

TryingNotToPanicAgain · 07/04/2026 14:10

I'm just appalled and dumbfounded that the US general public have not stormed the White House and put an end to that cretin.

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My American friends are utterly horrified and mortified and think the only way to get rid of him is to invoke martial law. But he’s replaced six out of the eight heads of services already (I think) with his cronies.
I’m going to be worried tonight.

ChinaDina · 07/04/2026 20:47

Pakistan's given Trump the off-ramp he'll pretend he didn't need.

Pakistan requests two-week extension on US deadline for Iran to end oil blockade

(sorry can't link)

Arraminta · 07/04/2026 20:48

What a surprise. Pakistan have offered Trump a rather handy excuse not to go ahead with the mass bombing.

HotGazpacho · 07/04/2026 20:51

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:40

Trump is the Best US President ever. Do you lot criticising him to not want Iran to make nukes? NO. Then let the bombs drop soon tonight.

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Come on kid, does your Mum know you’re still up?

daisychain01 · 07/04/2026 20:51

AtIusvue · 07/04/2026 14:27

Heres the thing. No one is panicking. He has been threatening and giving ultimatums since late March. Doesn’t make a difference. You can’t convince those with extreme religious ideology and who believe in martyrdom to bend to your ways.

So he will ramp up and ramp up….and nothing will happen. Iran won’t cave. He’s never had anyone who won’t bend to his ways….its why he is saying increasing unhinged nonsense, in an attempt to get a reaction from Iran. Won’t work.

It shows that he is weak and has no real power.

And look at all the insults and hissy-fits he has hurled at the UK because we haven't bent and swayed to his demands to get involved in the war. "He's no Churchill" taunts, as if Starmer cares what he thinks.

The fact is Trump isn't used to not getting his way. He's never been told No! I'm sure it's arrested development, it's what a toddler does when it's told it can't have something. A normal person will try to see other perspectives and accept that not everything is possible. Trump just can't cope.

his other claim that he would stop the Russia Ukraine war within 24 hours - delusional!

lemondrivelcake · 07/04/2026 20:53

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:40

Trump is the Best US President ever. Do you lot criticising him to not want Iran to make nukes? NO. Then let the bombs drop soon tonight.

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Isn't it past your bedtime?

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:53

Arraminta · 07/04/2026 20:48

What a surprise. Pakistan have offered Trump a rather handy excuse not to go ahead with the mass bombing.

I haven't seen this anywhere?

JaneJeffer · 07/04/2026 20:55
Question Mark What GIF by MOODMAN

Do you lot criticising him to not want Iran to make nukes? NO.
That’s a head scratcher.

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 20:55

placemats · 07/04/2026 19:32

Men bought children to this place to watch what exactly?

Children are not allowed to get out of the cat if you bring them to the recycling centre. Today I was at the recycling centre and a young boy, probably 7/8 said hello to me from the turned down window of the car he was in.

What father's do this?

Sadly its always happened, when WWII kicked off kids watched and mimicked the planes and pilots, as big, strong and brave. At that age they have no understanding of what is at risk, until its no longer in someone else's back yard.

Kids don’t grasp the reality of war. But for many parents, the outing isn’t about glorifying conflict - it’s about:

  • giving the kids something exciting to watch
  • doing something free and outdoors
  • sharing a moment of awe

Adults often compartmentalise: they can dislike war and still enjoy the spectacle of aviation. They are magnificent machines but personally I would be running in the opposite direction with my kids/grandkids, asnits getting altogether too real and I would want to keep them safe.

I think that is one of the problems with the American attitude, it has never been in their back yard, not really and the present administration feel untouchable because none of them are true statesmen.

rainbowunicorn · 07/04/2026 20:58

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:53

I haven't seen this anywhere?

It's all over the main media sources.

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:59

rainbowunicorn · 07/04/2026 20:58

It's all over the main media sources.

I've just checked sky news and can't see it

ChinaDina · 07/04/2026 21:01

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:59

I've just checked sky news and can't see it

Shehbaz Sharif posted on X:

“Diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlement of the ongoing war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly and powerfully with the potential to lead to substantive results in near future.

“To allow diplomacy to run its course, I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks. Pakistan, in all sincerity, requests the Iranian brothers to open strait of Hormuz for a corresponding period of two weeks as a goodwill gesture.

user1484056932 · 07/04/2026 21:01

Taco Trump strikes again, he’s so predictable all talk and no action.

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 21:02

ChinaDina · 07/04/2026 21:01

Shehbaz Sharif posted on X:

“Diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlement of the ongoing war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly and powerfully with the potential to lead to substantive results in near future.

“To allow diplomacy to run its course, I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks. Pakistan, in all sincerity, requests the Iranian brothers to open strait of Hormuz for a corresponding period of two weeks as a goodwill gesture.

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Ahh thank you. It's not reported on BBC or sky news. That's why I couldn't find it. However, I can't see trump going for this. I really hope he does.

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 21:03

dairydebris · 07/04/2026 20:03

Yep. The suitcase is called the 'football' and inside is a book of codes relating to exactly how many and hiw often and which nuclear missiles are fired. The president is the only one who can give these codes in an order to the military to carry out the attack.

How the Republicans haven't shut Trump in a room and faked some kind of medical episode is beyond me. I know they are his cronies. But they've sacrificed the credibility of America, not to mention Iranian lives on the altar of their own political ambitions. They're heinous the lot of them. I cannot believe this is what America has come to.

The President has the authority to decide to use nuclear weapons and he can issue the order on his sole opinion - yes. He may hold the codes...

But

If the President issues an unlawful order, it will not be carried out automatically as the military is legally required to refuse unlawful orders.

Those two facts can coexist without contradiction.

Sandunesandseashells · 07/04/2026 21:04

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:44

No, am serious. Iran is a very dangerous country and their leaders are far crazier than he is. Open the Straits and the threat goes away.

The Straits are open. Iran has made deals with China, Japan, India, Pakistan, Malaysia and Philippines and probably more by now. Their tankers are shipping oil as normal to these countries.

godlikeAI · 07/04/2026 21:07

We got here because a large swathe of Americans are too dim to see what is glow-in-the-dark obvious - Trump is, and always was, an unhinged, narcissistic man baby.

ObsessiveGoogler · 07/04/2026 21:07

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 21:02

Ahh thank you. It's not reported on BBC or sky news. That's why I couldn't find it. However, I can't see trump going for this. I really hope he does.

I would imagine he orchestrated it

Arraminta · 07/04/2026 21:07

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 19:48

It's not a legitimate fear to fear that the POTUS is capable of giving the go ahead for a nuclear weapon? The words he has said on truth social "a whole civilization". To me, implies, he is ready to use any means necessary to achieve his goals (whatever they are) it's not hysteria, it's a reality we need to accept. He will do something completely idiotic, Iran will retaliate, the whole world will be dragged into it and there will be no going back. It's not hysteria. It's very very possible.

No. It really, really isn't even remotely possible.

Nothing is going to actually happen. Do you really, really think it's just a coincidence that Pakistan has just asked Trump to not proceed with the bombings and agree to a 2 week cease fire? Really?

Trump can now present as 'the bigger man' who is graciously agreeing to Pakistan's request. In 2 weeks time, the USA will be gone.

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