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A whole civilisation will die tonight.

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todayImstruggling · 07/04/2026 13:37

Tumps exact words today!

WTAF? That sounds like he is about to drop a Nuke!

How the hell has the world got here?

Trumps truth social posts sounds more like something that a dramatic gleeful tv presenter would say in a game show. Not something a world leader threatening to blow up an entire civilisation.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565

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nice2BeNice · 07/04/2026 20:03

Regardless of whether he will implement his threats, how is the world just watching this lunatic talk and act with impunity ?!

He is such a filth-talking, arrogant monster! Which world leader talks about the wives of other leaders.. he has remarked about Starmer's wife, and recently about Macron's wife..in a press conference!

It was never about regime change in Iran, it was always about oil and power.

America goes around the world, facilitating regime change to promote Human rights and democratic values.. This used to be the propaganda ..I am sure no one buys that line anymore. Look who the US are supporting in Hungary!!

The Iran war hasn't gone the way they expected and they will exit after causing all the destruction and killing so many innocent civilians, not just in Iran, but also in Lebanon. They are preparing the ground for it by declaring that they have already won and Iran is already defeated "militarily" !

Trump is surrounded by people who do as they are told and anyone who might have a divergent view has been/will be fired. Every press conference, whether it is the CIA chief or another minister... they all verbally bow to the amazing President.. It is cringy to listen to.

I do wonder where the world order would be post-Trump. Whoever will become the next President of US will have a tough job on their hands.

dairydebris · 07/04/2026 20:03

HotGazpacho · 07/04/2026 19:52

Actually I believe the President does have sole decision-making power over the decision to go nuclear. They genuinely carry the codes, potential targets, and everything else related to it, in a suitcase which is with the President’s team at all times. Apparently this is has been the case for decades, so that nobody can go rogue. So, not uninformed hysteria. Quite understandable concern, I would say, under the circumstances.

I appreciate your impatience with what you perceive to be hysteria, but that doesn’t negate the fact that Trump is a bit of a psychopath who bears toddleresque grudges, and is seemingly unable to regulate his emotions.

Yep. The suitcase is called the 'football' and inside is a book of codes relating to exactly how many and hiw often and which nuclear missiles are fired. The president is the only one who can give these codes in an order to the military to carry out the attack.

How the Republicans haven't shut Trump in a room and faked some kind of medical episode is beyond me. I know they are his cronies. But they've sacrificed the credibility of America, not to mention Iranian lives on the altar of their own political ambitions. They're heinous the lot of them. I cannot believe this is what America has come to.

BerthaPotts · 07/04/2026 20:03

When the BBC asked for clarification of Trump's threats, they didn't openly deny the use of nukes.

Asked by the BBC to clarify its stance on using nuclear weapons, the White House sent the following statement from Leavitt: "The Iranian regime has until 8PM Eastern Time to meet the moment and make a deal with the United States. Only the President knows where things stand and what he will do."

lemondrivelcake · 07/04/2026 20:03

Arraminta · 07/04/2026 19:43

They're not legitimate fears. They're just uninformed hysteria.

Can you back up your claim that they're 'not legitimate fears'?

By which I mean are you somehow able to say with 100% certainty that Trump would never order nuclear weapons to be deployed under any circumstances? No, you're not, are you. None of us are. Which means your opinion holds roughly the same weight as those you're sneering at for so-called hysteria. Could your head be just a teeny bit in the sand, perchance?

BerthaPotts · 07/04/2026 20:04

He may not Nuke Iran but he can still cause substantial damage to both infrastructure and civilians which is still entirely unacceptable and also carry out war crimes.

Twiglets1 · 07/04/2026 20:06

BerthaPotts · 07/04/2026 20:04

He may not Nuke Iran but he can still cause substantial damage to both infrastructure and civilians which is still entirely unacceptable and also carry out war crimes.

Yes he absolutely is threatening to damage civilian infrastructure and there may be civilian deaths associated with that.

bafta16 · 07/04/2026 20:06

NotTerfNorCis · 07/04/2026 20:01

I also think there will be more conventional bombing, then America will withdraw, claiming victory, with the Strait of Hormuz still closed. Individual countries will negotiate to be allowed through. The price of oil will remain high, with all the knock-on effects that would mean.

I think you might be right.

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 20:06

user976532456 · 07/04/2026 19:30

Yeah. I do. I know who Garrett Graff is and his background and I know fuck all about your and yours.

The military has been conducting numerous war crimes under this administration including blowing up boats with no evidence and killing survivors. No reason to think safeguards are going to come into play now, but you can believe it if it makes you feel better.

And, I might point out, the whole war is a potentially unlawful order received from the White House, since a president can't go to war without congressional authorisation. Do you see the military pushing back on that? Thought not.

Firstly I am British and I say as I feel. Don't go criticising me for adding clarification, its the American Administration that is the problem and only the American people have the power to change this and I have a feeling that may include you ....unlike us.... so instead of chuntering at us, vote with your feet and do something about it .

I’m absolutely not treating the situation as a joke. The rhetoric is serious — which is why it’s important to separate dramatic language from how the US military chain of command actually works.

My post was pushing back on the idea that a single social‑media statement equals imminent catastrophe. That’s not how the system functions, and several posters have already shared the same information.

I agree it is an unlawful war and I also agree about war crimes but you appear to be putting words in my mouth that I never uttered. why so annoyed with me, I am not the madman in charge?

If the tone wasn’t to your taste, fair enough — but the facts remain the facts.

Uricon2 · 07/04/2026 20:07

Many years ago, I read an account by someone who had been a young girl at the time who watched Hitler in a parade. He looked at her and for a moment she saw what the attraction was, why so many people followed him, he was compelling in a way she couldn't explain (to the average British person watching his speeches, he was just ranting in German)

She was Jewish and although she survived, was in several concentration camps.

I cannot fathom what possibly Trump has to attract.

LazyCatLtd · 07/04/2026 20:10

Uricon2 · 07/04/2026 20:07

Many years ago, I read an account by someone who had been a young girl at the time who watched Hitler in a parade. He looked at her and for a moment she saw what the attraction was, why so many people followed him, he was compelling in a way she couldn't explain (to the average British person watching his speeches, he was just ranting in German)

She was Jewish and although she survived, was in several concentration camps.

I cannot fathom what possibly Trump has to attract.

He’s not charismatic at all, he is very unattractive and he’s an utterly useless speaker. I don’t see the appeal either. He’s quite obviously very stupid too.

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PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 20:17

placemats · 07/04/2026 19:35

The war in Iran is illegal and yet it went ahead. Are you seriously trying to say this is just a wee bit of a joke and no one will get hurt? Or that a country will be decimated?

Why would GOP let the proclamation stand?

How do you sleep at night with such thoughts?

People in the UK are paying extra at the petrol stations and in energy tarrifs because of this buffoon.

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Why are you putting words in my mouth that I never even touched on. I know who I am and I know what I said. I totally agree its an illegal war and there have been war crimes, at no-point have I ever said anything different and I never said that no-one will get hurt.

Where did I say anything about GOP letting the Proclamation stand?

I sleep very well at night, I am a realist and I read, check facts and anticipate. Scaremongering helps no-one, humour can break tension, its what Brits do.

I’m absolutely not treating the situation as a joke. The rhetoric is serious — which is why it’s important to separate dramatic language from how the US military chain of command actually works.

My post was pushing back on the idea that a single social‑media statement equals imminent catastrophe. That’s not how the system functions, and several posters have already shared the same information.

If the tone wasn’t to your taste, fair enough — but the facts remain the facts.

Uricon2 · 07/04/2026 20:19

Hopefully not and that Trump remains the gas fuelled, ego inflated blowhard he's hitherto been

HotGazpacho · 07/04/2026 20:21

@dairydebris I thought so, thank you for the clarification. I personally can well believe that this is what America has come to. A friend of mine in the US said to me recently that Trump is merely the product of a highly racist, segregated society that fully believes in its own exceptionalism even whilst black men are lynched and children are shot at their school desks. They fully drank the Kool-Aid that is the American Dream. Understandable, I guess, when we remember they’re descended from a bunch of religious fanatics and have lived on stolen land for hundreds of years.

Figgygal · 07/04/2026 20:21

He's disgusting and needs removed from office

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 20:27

bookworm14 · 07/04/2026 19:25

From the article I posted above: “The president, and the president alone, possesses the sole authority to order a nuclear launch, and no one can legally stop him or her.”

The article you’ve linked is discussing constitutional authority — not the mechanics of the nuclear launch process.

Even the experts quoted in it don’t claim there’s a literal “override button” in Trumps hands or that the military must carry out an unlawful order. The legal framework still applies: service members must obey lawful orders and must refuse manifestly illegal ones. That’s black‑letter Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

So yes, the president has broad authority over nuclear weapons. But, and this is important in regard to your post, that doesn’t mean a single person can bypass legal review, authentication procedures, or the obligation to refuse an illegal command. So there are failsafe's in place.

And just to reassure you, it as on the BBC news tonight that it had been clarified by the US administration that Trump was not referring to a nuclear strike.

momtoboys · 07/04/2026 20:27

HolidayHideaway · 07/04/2026 13:44

I am trying not to worry about what I can't control. Hopefully there are checks and balances and it's bluster.

Take it from someone who now lives in the US albeit temporarily. There are no checks and balances in the US anymore. The country is being run by a moron with an administration of sycophants and a congress that will not stand up for what they know is right because they are all more concerned about the next election. It is a total sh*t show. We are now the laughing stock of the world.

TryingNotToPanicAgain · 07/04/2026 20:31

bafta16 · 07/04/2026 20:06

I think you might be right.

If this happens, America will be weakened for ever

Flomingho · 07/04/2026 20:33

More winky waving from the tangerine lunatic. Deluded and deranged....

PrettyPickle · 07/04/2026 20:34

momtoboys · 07/04/2026 20:27

Take it from someone who now lives in the US albeit temporarily. There are no checks and balances in the US anymore. The country is being run by a moron with an administration of sycophants and a congress that will not stand up for what they know is right because they are all more concerned about the next election. It is a total sh*t show. We are now the laughing stock of the world.

I'm not going to waste time arguing with a lot of what you say, because quite frankly you are right BUT, the process in the US is not just about the present administration.

UCMJ stands for Uniform Code of Military Justice - That’s the legal framework that governs the conduct of all members of the US armed forces. It’s not optional, it’s not symbolic, and it doesn’t switch off depending on who the president is.

Two key points:

  • It requires service members to obey lawful orders
  • It requires them to refuse manifestly unlawful orders
That’s why it keeps coming up in discussions about military decision‑making — it’s the backbone of what US officers are legally required to do, regardless of who sits in the Oval Office.

The rhetoric is serious — which is why it’s important to separate dramatic language from how the US military chain of command actually works.

I'm pushing back on the idea that a single social‑media statement equals imminent catastrophe. That’s not how the system functions, and several posters have already shared the same information.

tichbrew · 07/04/2026 20:35

That has to be one of the most depraved thing any President or leader anywhere has ever said. He needs to be removed from office, he's insane and not fit to govern. Even if its just hot air to say such a thing in jest in his position is unforgivable. What piece of shit he is.

McSteamyorMcdreamy · 07/04/2026 20:38

Haven't RTWT but have there been any Trump supporters/voters on here agreeing with him?

Literally why hasn't Congress/HOR done anything about this yet?? Why hasn't the 25th amendment been called by anyone in power yet??

Absolutely fucking terrifying.

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:40

Trump is the Best US President ever. Do you lot criticising him to not want Iran to make nukes? NO. Then let the bombs drop soon tonight.

AlwaysAnxious32 · 07/04/2026 20:41

Britainisgreat · 07/04/2026 20:40

Trump is the Best US President ever. Do you lot criticising him to not want Iran to make nukes? NO. Then let the bombs drop soon tonight.

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I hope your fucking joking.

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