A whole civilisation will die tonight.

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Tumps exact words today!

WTAF? That sounds like he is about to drop a Nuke!

How the hell has the world got here?

Trumps truth social posts sounds more like something that a dramatic gleeful tv presenter would say in a game show. Not something a world leader threatening to blow up an entire civilisation.

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-war-latest-trump-tehran-us-israel-kharg-island-netanyahu-lebanon-strikes-drone-live-sky-news-13509565

There were, they've either been fired or resigned....the orange prick is surrounded by yes men.

I'm not treating it as a joke, I'm telling you there are balance checks in place and the lunatic that is in charge of the asylum does not have the final say. Its a way better post than scaremongering.

Have you ever read any of his Truth Social Posts? They are deeply disturbing on all levels but rarely hold water. Its his way of stirring things up.

The responsible thing would be not the bomb the trains.

I have to get off this thread, it's sending my anxiety rocketing. But ... Trump is known for hyperbole. He expressed a clear aim of destroying infrastructure and energy plants (eg war crimes). He then came back a little later with what sounds like his typical hyperbolic bluster. I mean, the clear war crimes expressed in the first post are bad enough, but I think (I am choosing to believe) that the second post is his fucking typical big man bluster.

I know he's had a lot of people sacked recently, but I also hang onto the idea that there are still enough sane people in the chain of military command who would stop him, or refuse.

I pray nightly for that friendly little aneurism! But sadly I suspect he's pumped full of the very best formaldehyde money can buy, and ALL the drugs.

I don't know how I'm going to sleep tonight, I'm given to horrible catastrophising. But I know that's me.

The war in Iran is illegal and yet it went ahead. Are you seriously trying to say this is just a wee bit of a joke and no one will get hurt? Or that a country will be decimated?

Why would GOP let the proclamation stand?

How do you sleep at night with such thoughts?

People in the UK are paying extra at the petrol stations and in energy tarrifs because of this buffoon.

Alarm set for 01.00hrs!

This is the man who will push the button if it's pushed.

The article is about how the active warplanes are being treated as a free Bank Holiday airshow by some families. It has nothing to do with recycling centres?

Yes, I pretty much think the same. There'll be a limited bombing of a handful of strategic infrastructures tonight.

Followed by Trump saying (probably lying) that the Iranian regime have pleaded for him to stop.

Obviously the Iranian regime will absolutely deny this.

Followed by another week of tit for tat.

Followed by Trump declaring he's achieved everything he wanted, better than anyone else has ever achieved, ever.

Followed by the USA departing forthwith.

Let's face it, the USA doesn't actually need the oil. They don't really care about the Straits of Hormuz. Trump is very disenchanted with NATO, so he's going to gather up his toys and head off home.

Neither does dismissing people's legitimate fears as hysteria.

No of course there isn't a big red button, but can I ask if you are of an age to remember the Cold War? Because if you are, I'm sure you'll remember some of the brinksmanship and how close the world actually did come to catastrophe on several occasions, sometimes due purely to misunderstanding. That's without an unhinged megalomanic in the mix threatening to wipe out a nation because they won't let him play with their train set.

Obviously even a loon like Trump isn't likely to consciously deploy nuclear weapons crosses fingers. But without meaning to scaremonger, nukes do exist, and the world is a less safe place because of them. I don't think complacency is any more helpful than so-called hysteria, personally.

That's your response? To a crisis that is not to be taken lightly and you know that bringing children there is totally out of order.

They're not legitimate fears. They're just uninformed hysteria.

The problem is that I think they've been warning them on X and most Iranians don't have internet access at present, because cut off by the regime because of the conflict.

I hope the message does get through.

Personally I don't think nukes will be fired. But Trump and Netanyahu can rain plenty of death and destruction down on Iran without resorting to that.

It's not a legitimate fear to fear that the POTUS is capable of giving the go ahead for a nuclear weapon? The words he has said on truth social "a whole civilization". To me, implies, he is ready to use any means necessary to achieve his goals (whatever they are) it's not hysteria, it's a reality we need to accept. He will do something completely idiotic, Iran will retaliate, the whole world will be dragged into it and there will be no going back. It's not hysteria. It's very very possible.

can? They are. 4 million displaced people in Lebabon.

Yes, of course. Which is the point I was trying to make.

Actually I believe the President does have sole decision-making power over the decision to go nuclear. They genuinely carry the codes, potential targets, and everything else related to it, in a suitcase which is with the President’s team at all times. Apparently this is has been the case for decades, so that nobody can go rogue. So, not uninformed hysteria. Quite understandable concern, I would say, under the circumstances.

I appreciate your impatience with what you perceive to be hysteria, but that doesn’t negate the fact that Trump is a bit of a psychopath who bears toddleresque grudges, and is seemingly unable to regulate his emotions.

I think you’re right @Arraminta

Human life is so precious. I can’t stop thinking of those poor people who are just the same as us having to face unimaginable terror. Trump is insane. How can a supposedly democratic and free country like the US not stop him. If Kier Starmer had said what trump did I’d like to think I’d be joined by millions protesting in London.
I am trying to keep a cool head at the moment but it surely is a possibility that he will follow through his threat.

It’s not hysteria to state that the sole responsibility for launching a nuclear strike lies with the president. It’s fact.

Ah, dismiss the fears of women about a legitimate threat to life as hysteria. That's them told.

There is a madman in the White house who wants the oil, all the oil for himself. A madman who thought he would walk into Iran and take it, just as he took the oil from Venezuela. The madman is now angry at being told no and threatening genocide as a result. The madman is propped up with yes men who are incapable of putting a stop to this insanity.

I despise the Iranian regime and have no time for it, but my solution would not be to kill the entire population. Anyone who can't see Trump for the piece of shit he is is deluded in my view. I can't understand how Anyone could defend threatened genocide.

"Uniformed hysteria" - despite POTUS - President of The United States Donald Trump saying a whole civilization will die tonight?.

Uninformed hysteria As in: love, your peri menopausal symptoms are all in your head?

I also think there will be more conventional bombing, then America will withdraw, claiming victory, with the Strait of Hormuz still closed. Individual countries will negotiate to be allowed through. The price of oil will remain high, with all the knock-on effects that would mean.

That sounds horrific. The man is completely unhinged.