Labour isn't working - Thread 29

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The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I kind of said I’m worried about the religious meets the political. Bottled it when they said interesting as wasn’t sure how to focus on one half of it so just said the antisemitism.

Of course I got the standard Zack Polanski is Jewish line in return. Didn’t do women’s rights stuff just a solid wall on that one I reckon.

I did say I’m voting for Kemi first and it’s good you’re not Labour to which they said they’re getting that a lot. This area has been Labour forever.

@EasternStandard yes - I can understand there are words you wouldn't want to use because no one wants the police turning up on the doorstep

in terms of Polanski, I would probably have said that's not really the point and the motion being discussed at the conference is more the point.

i'm glad you said it here because that does make me realise, it's probably best not to engage with them at all.

Polanski's various family members don't seem terribly happy with him.

Yep it’s policy that’s important not his background.

I sort of understand why they support the Greens, but I’ve got the image of the women celebrating in Iran in 1979 unaware of what was to hit them and as a woman the whole thing is too much.

It used to be that you needed an NHS GP referral to access private medicine. Since COVID you could get an online gp appointment and be referred. It’s just the prescriptions that aren’t covered by private medical insurance now.

Creating a bottleneck for hospital referrals will just make the A&E departments more of a war zone.

@EasternStandard when you say "they" do you mean their supporters in general?

@SpaceRaccoon I think I heard that he denied that there were any family issues

It's extremely damning if true - I mean if their worries have been accurately reported

@Pacificsunshine yes A&E will definitely get worse because of this
I had forgotten that at one point you needed a GP to send you one for a private referral. That doesn't make any sense.

I didn't see any GP to book with a consultant, just found them / their hospital online and booked myself in.

I got the cost of it back from the Simply Health policy work pays for.

@SapphireCasino there's a news story claiming only his mum still speaks to him, and various quotes, but admittedly it doesn't name names so who knows.

www.google.com/amp/s/www.jewishnews.co.uk/zack-polanskis-own-family-fear-theyd-have-to-flee-britain-if-he-became-pm/amp/

I was thinking of the canvassers but I guess the supporters too. A lot of it is not viable but sounds attractive.

I think much could be defanged if needs be by markets or reality, the NATO stuff or defence.

But what concerns me is that left / extreme ideology connection that has been shown to massively and almost permanently backfire, especially for women.

@EasternStandard they never come across as being the sharpest tool in the box

I notice Polanski also thinks he's the first Jewish leader of a political party 🤦🏽‍♀️

Correction as are in that with the exception of Jimmy Goldsmith Ed Milliband (is very much still with us ) and Micheal Howard is a Retired Politician who had a lot of respect for..

Good column in the DT about the march and some of the placards on display.

In my view, though, the most telling moment of all was the following. One marcher – who happened to be white – was seen wielding a homemade placard, which read: “Here for migrant women (except Shabana Mahmood).
What an inadvertently revealing statement. Ms Mahmood, the Home Secretary, was born in Birmingham – which means that she isn’t a migrant. So why did the person who made the placard think that she is? It is because she’s got brown skin? Did this impeccably progressive marcher take one look at the Home Secretary, and decide that she can’t be British, because British people are white, and have names like Smith and Jones, not Mahmood?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/6a1a044b34f6764c

I think most of us (the silent majority stuck in the middle of left and right) have little interest in religion (certainly not the beliefs of others) and just wish the fanatics would find a corner in Outer Mongolia or Siberia where they can shout at each other and leave us in peace.

It's being reported this morning the big orange loon in the White House is considering ending the war without the Strait of Hormuz being reopened.

If that happens, Starmer and his spiteful band of incompetents should be afraid, very afraid. As Phillipson all too clearly demonstrated on Sunday morning's Kuenssberg, Labour doesn't have any contingency plans to handle this crisis; we should just carry on as normal.

Asked if she was making holiday plans, she responded she had and was looking forward to it. At that point, she might as well have stuck her fingers in her ears while humming la-la-la I can't hear you.

The Times this morning is reporting that the treasury is gaining an extra £20 million per day from rising energy costs.

Waves to the lurkers 👋👋👋

Quite a few countries are cutting fuel duty to help people out.

There’s a very emotional video of an Iranian woman and a blank faced placard holder. The former with emotion in her voice saying what are you doing, what are you thinking? We have endured this

Powerful stuff.

Yeah, and Starmer is going around saying that our govt is doing everything they can? I don't think so.

The multi-million pound whitewash has begun, (after giving authorities 7 months notice to destroy evidence of course).

www.thetimes.com/article/5b4e9664-a6a6-4d6f-aa99-20f7d499f871?shareToken=46dc719d0cb4b227114b4c0527d62398

It was never going to be transparent.

Actually, I should retract that comment

We are in next level PR at the moment and it's actually taken me the last week or so to understand it. So he might well have said it deliberately to keep in the headlines and it serves a whole bunch of agendas, probably

well, maybe it's not next level PR, but at the ripe old age of 50, I'm starting to understand things that used to confuse me in the workplace - in terms of gameplay and such like.

I watched the docu-drama about Huw Edwards lastnight. Utterly vile and kept me awake.
Then today, news that the BBC have sacked Scott Mills over allegations of serious sexual offences against a young boy. 🤢

Thanks for the warning. We have it recorded; sounds like it's not suitable for late-night viewing.