Ian Huntley has died

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That's according to BBC news. Can't say I'm sorry.

You cannot have a meaningful conversation about prison safety without talking about prison staff.

The people demanding that he suffer until old age are absolutely disgusting and sadists.

He was actually enjoying time in prison, even getting friendly with the staff. He was known as a moaner because he got annoyed at being given the wrong flavour crisps.

He was not suffering at all in prison, he was enjoying life at the taxpayers expense.

No one cares about Huntley, and no one has tried to defend him. It’s the fawning over the scumbag who murdered him that has angered people. A man who would rape and strangle a pregnant woman and pretend to help her bf find her? And kill a mother and son too?

People are also concerned about the safety of staff working in prisons.

No idea. 🤷🏼‍♀️

@CapacityBrown The people demanding that he suffer until old age are absolutely disgusting and sadists.

I don't think there is anything wrong with wanting Ian Huntley to suffer.

He was actually enjoying time in prison, even getting friendly with the staff. He was known as a moaner because he got annoyed at being given the wrong flavour crisps. He was not suffering at all in prison, he was enjoying life at the taxpayers expense.

I don't think you have any understanding of serious injuries. After receiving serious head injuries, it's not as if you magically walk out of hospital in a fully recovered state after lying in a hospital bed for a few weeks.

Recovery takes many months or years, and in many cases, people never make a ful recovery. In Ian Huntley's case, his injuries had left him blind. If he had survived, he would have had a lot of difficulty dealing with his injuries and what happened to him.

Head injury is not something I would wish on the overwhelming majority of people. But given the person Ian Huntley was, I think it is fine to have wanted him to suffer as much as possible.

Right but the staff weren't attacked so why is it so terrible that I don't care Huntley was attacked?

Nobody is handwringing over his death. Acknowledging that someone shouldn’t have been murdered is still entirely possible even if you’re not sad that he’s dead.

Personally I wouldn’t shed any tears for him. He’s dead. The end.

However we don’t have the death penalty in this country, and as such it’s not ok for anyone to take the law into their own hands and decide to kill someone, be that out of revenge or in Anthony Russell’s case, for notoriety.

Russell’s crimes were conceiveably worse than Huntley’s, but now he’s earned himself hero status, not only in prison but in the outside world, including here on MN.

This has been explained countless times already on this thread alone.

Prior to the attack he was enjoying life in prison and became known as a "moaner", this has come from staff who have been speaking to the press.

So for the 20+ years behind bars he wasn't suffering.

😳😳

Because three time murderers having access to weapons in prison puts staff at risk

@Never2many I don’t think anyone on Mumsnet or the outside world are seeing Anthony Russell as a hero, although I realise that’s probably not the case in prison. Im very glad that he was able to kill Ian Huntley but that certainly doesn’t make him an hero, and I hope he suffers the same fate himself.

You haven't challenged a thing, you've just said generic stuff like "there's a bigger picture" "there's more to understand".

A poster started another thread claiming that Russell deserved an award for what he did, and there have been others who have said similar. Thankfully not many, at least.

like most lifers, they adapt. They take from the regime the parts they enjoy and that then becomes their life

they then moan if it’s disrupted. Same as anyone else.

Apologies - I haven’t seen the other thread, and I agree that it isn’t good if people think tjst makes a man like tjst a hero.

Plenty saying he shouldn’t be prosecuted for it on this thread

I suppose the issue is how frequently the media will mention him from now on. How often do you see articles about Harold Shipman, the most prolific murderer of all time?

Ian Brady outlived Myra Hindley by fifteen years, and in that time he was reported on far more frequently than she was because - well, there was nothing new to say about her. Brady was still in the news relatively often until his death - hunger strike, speculation that he might finally reveal poor Keith Bennett's burial place, etc. Now that he's been dead for eight years, that's all stopped.

Also, it's possible that Huntley would have campaigned to be released from prison eventually, as Myra Hindley unsuccessfully did. Unlike Brady, he wasn't diagnosed criminally insane, and unlike Peter Sutcliffe he wasn't given a whole-life order. The victims' families would have had to sit that whole media circus. At least this way it's all over now.

That being said, the man who killed him was scum and probably did it for the notoriety.

That has already happened in the case of Axel Rudakubana and the brother of the Manchester arena bomber. They have been given a lot of privileges in prison and protected from other prisoners only to go on and attack the staff.

If they were to be properly punished then this wouldn't happen. But (as evidenced here) a lot of people's first thoughts are with the criminals which then results in prison staff being attacked.

Yes, and it bursts the illusion that they are suffering in prison. They're not.

@shuggles @Lifeomars @Sarah2891 nowhere in my comment did I praise the man for his previous convictions. I do however, condone his actions of IH.

How easy your lives must be, to cherrypick strangers comments on the internet and twist the narrative. There are much bigger problems in the world. Maybe give them your headspace.

What privileges have they been given?

I have said plenty more, but don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative, will you ?

There are also posters on that thread saying that he has done a service to society.

And there were attempts online to set up a gofundme for him.

Being quite rightly opposed to state sanctioned murder as standard, isn’t the same as feeling indifferent or pleased when one violent, murdering scumbag wipes out another.
And I think you’re being obtuse by saying Ian Huntley’s killer has hero status on here.

You must know that he didn’t kill Huntley out of any sense of justice, though? It would have been for notoriety; we know he wants that, as he denied raping his pregnant victim and forced a trial to take place. Why else would he do that, when he was already going to prison for murder?

Or else it might have been a grievance over something else.