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US strikes Iran

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mjf981 · 28/02/2026 07:59

In conjunction with Israel.
Why? Starting wars has never ever ended well for the US, or for the country they are trying to 'help.'

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cn5ge95q6y7t

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Smudgesmith · 28/02/2026 17:39

Regime change happens all the time and likely didn't need the huge military presence and the excuse of going in because Iran may be near to getting nuclear weapons, something Netanyahu has claimed for 30 years. This is basically Israel's doing. They have been bombing countries right, left and central for years. Trump is a crazy puppet and its all about oil and power. Its not about saving the Iranian people. Let's hope that that is a by product and happens swiftly without loss of innocents, however given the school bombing I think that is unlikely.

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 17:40

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 17:30

Ignore them Stirabout, the success of propaganda relies on constant denials and gaslighting, the same kind of accusations were made about Gaza aka everything is "Pallywood".

Report from a report for France24 from their reporter in Tehran about the school bombing:

The link provides absolutely no evidence beyond 'Iran state media has said'. There's no footage of the school and it's even stated that it's not verified!

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 17:41

Smudgesmith · 28/02/2026 17:39

Regime change happens all the time and likely didn't need the huge military presence and the excuse of going in because Iran may be near to getting nuclear weapons, something Netanyahu has claimed for 30 years. This is basically Israel's doing. They have been bombing countries right, left and central for years. Trump is a crazy puppet and its all about oil and power. Its not about saving the Iranian people. Let's hope that that is a by product and happens swiftly without loss of innocents, however given the school bombing I think that is unlikely.

A school bombing that almost certainly didn't happen versus a massacre of Iranian protesters that almost certainly did happen

EasternStandard · 28/02/2026 17:41

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 17:36

No worries Belle

Mumsnetters have their own opinions which is fine

I debunked a pallywood try some years back. 😆

( 85 children now reported killed in the strike )

Edited

Your posts are spreading unverified information.

DomPom47 · 28/02/2026 17:48

Smudgesmith · 28/02/2026 17:39

Regime change happens all the time and likely didn't need the huge military presence and the excuse of going in because Iran may be near to getting nuclear weapons, something Netanyahu has claimed for 30 years. This is basically Israel's doing. They have been bombing countries right, left and central for years. Trump is a crazy puppet and its all about oil and power. Its not about saving the Iranian people. Let's hope that that is a by product and happens swiftly without loss of innocents, however given the school bombing I think that is unlikely.

Oil, power and throwing the Middle East into chaos. Why people choose not to read about what is happening is beyond me. It is in the interest of certain countries to have chaos in others. People saying oh it’s about democracy etc are deluded. Yes the regime in Iran was evil but how on earth did they get to power? Iran will instead get a puppet monarch in charge when things settle down. By which time who knows what shape the Middle East is in and how many people have died.

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 17:48

EasternStandard · 28/02/2026 17:41

Your posts are spreading unverified information.

Prove it’s misinformation !!!

A French reporter has reported from Tehran see @BelleHathor post upthread
Its on all major news outlets
This has not had a third party verification yet ( which I have said many times already )

The US and Israel have said Nothing about it either

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 17:50

Videos of the aftermath, still to be verified by the superior Western media.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qXUB_rjThxY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ngeY1txcQa8

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 17:52

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 17:50

Videos of the aftermath, still to be verified by the superior Western media.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qXUB_rjThxY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ngeY1txcQa8

The bbc have sown similar.

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 17:55

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 17:50

Videos of the aftermath, still to be verified by the superior Western media.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/qXUB_rjThxY

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ngeY1txcQa8

These are just videos of unspecified people standing around unspecified rubble with the caption '51 school girls dead'.

To say 'still to be verified by superior western media' suggests you kind of know this is misinformation that's being spread

SpaceRaccoon · 28/02/2026 17:57

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 17:55

These are just videos of unspecified people standing around unspecified rubble with the caption '51 school girls dead'.

To say 'still to be verified by superior western media' suggests you kind of know this is misinformation that's being spread

Spreading IRGC propaganda is astonishing, but there we are.

Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 17:59

Why do you refer to the Iranian protestors as "protestors" @BelleHathor ?

You never answered when I asked earlier.

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 17:59

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 17:52

The bbc have sown similar.

Yup, most of the OSINT accounts are on Telegram where they are showing the NSFW videos of the deceased girls.

Our superior media won't can't report on it as there are so few western journalists in Iran (due to the government suspecting them as being spies).

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 18:03

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 17:59

Yup, most of the OSINT accounts are on Telegram where they are showing the NSFW videos of the deceased girls.

Our superior media won't can't report on it as there are so few western journalists in Iran (due to the government suspecting them as being spies).

I'm on Telegram and there's widespread belief in the area that the school has been hit and it was by an Iranian missile that misfired.

So far all the US and Israeli missiles seem to have been precision strikes. Whereas the Iranian missiles have hit a hotel in Dubai, an airport in Kuwait, a house in Bahrain etc

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 28/02/2026 18:04

MushMonster · 28/02/2026 14:58

What is this for? Please explain yourself

My explanation is that the Iran regime are absolutely ruthless and that it will have far reaching consequences to a lot of innocent people.
When the news broke this morning did you not think oh fuck?

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 18:06

SpaceRaccoon · 28/02/2026 17:58

If we're going to be disseminating unverified social media stuff, here's the counterpoint:

https://x.com/Tarikh_Eran/status/2027784301840846939

Its Not social media stuff though is it
The local councillor ( not sure what head of the region is called tbh ) has made a statement

So not unnamed unknown random social media types

As it stands we will wait and see
if a completely independent reporter can physically get there and verify
Unlike some who are so quick to automatically shout propaganda with no proof. I’m happy to wait and see if it is

MushMonster · 28/02/2026 18:09

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 28/02/2026 18:04

My explanation is that the Iran regime are absolutely ruthless and that it will have far reaching consequences to a lot of innocent people.
When the news broke this morning did you not think oh fuck?

Oh, I see.
In part, yes.
Not sure if this will help to free Iran or will make Iran to go even harder on their people.
Plus all the bombing across Middle East. It can ignite a bigger conflict.
I get it now that you eleborated on it.

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 18:14

Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 17:59

Why do you refer to the Iranian protestors as "protestors" @BelleHathor ?

You never answered when I asked earlier.

Think tanks have telegraphing their opinions on how to effect regime change Iran for decades.

The most famous of these is from the Brookings Institute "Which path to Persia?"

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/which-path-to-persia-options-for-a-new-american-strategy-toward-iran/

Chapter 7, page 113: Inspiring an Insurgency: Supporting Iranian Minority
And Opposition Groups
"They contend that the United States should turn to Iranian opposition groups that already exist, that already have demonstrated a desire to fight the regime, and who appear willing to accept U.S. assistance.

The hope behind this course of action is that these various opposition groups could transform themselves into more potent movements that might be able to overturn the regime. For instance, the United States could opt to work primarily with various unhappy Iranian ethnic groups (Kurds, Baluch, Arabs, and so on) who have fought the regime at various periods since the revolution.

A coalition of ethnic opposition movements, particularly if combined with dissident Persians, would pose a serious threat to regime stability. In addition, the unrest the groups themselves create could weaken the regime at home. At the least, the regime would have to divert resources to putting down the rebellions.

At most, the unrest might discredit the regime over time, weakening its position vis-à-vis its rivals. The United States could also attempt to promote external Iranian opposition groups, providing them with the support to turn themselves into full-fledged insurgencies"

Although the protests started out organically and peacefully at the end of December due to the collapse of the Iranian currency, these peaceful protests were infiltrated, by "protestors" from dissident groups and became violent.

https://www.iranintl.com/en/202601073833

Which Path to Persia? Options for a New American Strategy Toward Iran | Brookings

In a new Saban Analysis Paper, six Brookings experts analyze the main policy approaches toward Iran. In examining the benefits and drawbacks of the nine options—including engagement, persuasion, airstrikes, and containment—the authors refrain from reco...

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/which-path-to-persia-options-for-a-new-american-strategy-toward-iran/

Twiglets1 · 28/02/2026 18:15

God I wish I hadn't asked now.

TLDR - you don't believe they are genuine protestors?

Marieb19 · 28/02/2026 18:21

Viviennemary · 28/02/2026 08:58

That awful regime in Iran has to be changed. But why didn't they do it when those protests happened a few weeks ago.

Because they didn't gave a fleet in place when the Iranian protests started. I'm amazed so many people on MN seem to support a regime that beats women and girls to death for not wearing a scarf correctly. Iran has orchestrated most major terrorist attacks in the area, including the 7th Oct attack on Israeli civilians, butchering 1200 and taking hundreds hostage.

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 18:23

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 18:03

I'm on Telegram and there's widespread belief in the area that the school has been hit and it was by an Iranian missile that misfired.

So far all the US and Israeli missiles seem to have been precision strikes. Whereas the Iranian missiles have hit a hotel in Dubai, an airport in Kuwait, a house in Bahrain etc

A while ago you said it almost certainly didn’t happen
Now it did but it’s not our fault gov.

surprise surprise

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 28/02/2026 18:26

MushMonster · 28/02/2026 18:09

Oh, I see.
In part, yes.
Not sure if this will help to free Iran or will make Iran to go even harder on their people.
Plus all the bombing across Middle East. It can ignite a bigger conflict.
I get it now that you eleborated on it.

I also meant more innocent people as they have already slaughtered tens of thousands of their own people.
Worrying times

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 18:29

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 18:23

A while ago you said it almost certainly didn’t happen
Now it did but it’s not our fault gov.

surprise surprise

"It didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn't us,
Ok we did it and it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was bad, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not our fault.
And if it was, We didn’t mean it.
And if we did, you made us do it"

EasternStandard · 28/02/2026 18:32

BelleHathor · 28/02/2026 18:29

"It didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn't us,
Ok we did it and it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was bad, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not our fault.
And if it was, We didn’t mean it.
And if we did, you made us do it"

Have you read or listened to any of the mutilation and horrors enacted by the Iranian regime yet?

Is this from them?

TheFilliesWillRiseAgain · 28/02/2026 18:32

Stirabout · 28/02/2026 18:23

A while ago you said it almost certainly didn’t happen
Now it did but it’s not our fault gov.

surprise surprise

I said the Iranian regime's account of what happened is almost certainly untrue.

They're lying about everything else - why would you choose to believe this?

Do you think they're being honest about only hitting military targets in the UAE when we can all see that a hotel is on fire?

When do you think the Ayatollah will appear on state TV to prove that he's alive, given they're saying he's not dead?

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