Labour isn't Working - Thread 28

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Continued carry on with discussion.

Blimey! He doesn't hold back does he.
Interesting that means testing benefits (WFA) was always her position.

Hunt sees her alone in her office in No 11. They speak a lot,' reveals one source.
The Labour lot won't like that. 😂

@TheNuthatch hunt always visiting her was one my one ray of light.

He definitely doesn't hold back, but based on the last 20 months it would be hard to disbelieve anyfhing he's written.

They have been listening to Hunt. Echoes of Rishi Sunak here. 😁

Policy proposals are still being worked up, but include cutting income tax and abolishing national insurance.

https://news.sky.com/story/cabinet-ministers-look-at-blueprint-for-how-labour-could-cut-taxes-13522283

They are in deep deep merde...obviously she hasn't got anyone remotely sensible to canvas ideas with within her own party !

We are facing down a financial Armageddon far far worse then COVID with 6 form student politics .

Then starmer gets chucked out ,Raynor comes in and all we can do is pray

Tbf there are likely some who feel the same on the other version of this type of thread.

Rayner as PM and Torsten Bell as Chancellor?

@DancingFerret and the Uk in the worst trouble it will have ever been in

Well I for one welcome you, comrade. I’m always partial to a heckler.

But please don’t start saying that Starmer is a ‘safe pair of hands, ‘a grown up, ‘solid’ etc. Starmer’s so obviously a talentless flip-floppy fool, and an unpleasant one, that no good will come of misrepresenting him, here or on any other thread.

Where do you stand on a change of PM if the May locals are a bloodbath for Labour? He’ll have to go, surely? And if so who’s your pick to replace him?

I think he probably will have to go after May, yes. Although if the war is still going on maybe that will be used as an argument for him to stay? I can see that happening. I really have no idea who should replace him, so don't have a pick.

Thank you. Bit non-committal for someone to the left of the present government, but fair enough.

My picks are Angela Rayner or David Lammy: smart as whips, alpha minds, unwavering in their beliefs and true to their principles, two giants of modern politics.

Labour isn't anything at the moment. As in..they don't have a clue

Now, now. Retract those claws!

I think the problem is the calibre of politicians generally at the moment is not high across all parties. If I had to pick someone it might be Al Carns.

Maybe there's an opening for a 'left of Labour' thread as well?

Sarcasm doesn't become you, but I totally agree.

I just can’t take those two, and a variety of other Labour figures, seriously. I think it’s their eye-popping hypocrisy that does it for me.

But I am genuinely interested in who Labour supporters think should replace Starmer. If we’re down to Carns, who’s only been an MP for 20 months, there must be little to choose from for the most powerful job in the land.

Did you miss my question @ComradeAmoeba ?

Kemi’s ‘bigotry’?

I think the other thread is a good fit. They create anything to distract from how badly Starmer and Labour are doing.

Anyone for a 🐈?!

Yes I missed it. I think it is obvious? Her endorsement of Timothy's, Farage's and Robinson's views on the Iftar in Trafalgar Square.

I actually agree with your second paragraph. Which is why maybe fresh blood is needed.

Anyway, pps makes it clear I am not welcome on this thread. But I enjoyed chatting with you, even though we don't agree on much!

@ComradeAmoebathere are so many other threads for this stuff.

I'm also genuinely interested in his replacement - and also terrified because the line-up is dire (as all of us know).

No, not obvious. Where did she endorse Farage’s and Robinson’s views?
She backed her shadow justice secretary who expressed perfectly legitimate views.

The BBC reported:
"But speaking at an event to launch her party's campaign for May's local elections in England, Badenoch said her "fantastic" frontbench colleague Nick Timothy had been trying to make a point about the "norms of British culture".
Claiming that women at the event had been "pushed to the back," she said the gathering had been "exclusionary".
"It is about how religion is expressed in a shared public space, and whether those expressions fit within the norms of British culture, " she added.
In a BBC interview after the event, she went on to add: "I think that we need to look at exactly why and how it happened in that space.
"We already have loads of planning rules to say what events can go on, and which ones cannot. I don't think that that was one that should have gone on. So let's look at the rules that allowed that to happen."
Asked why she had mentioned the place of women when this had not featured in Timothy's original criticism of the event, she replied: "My position has been very clear, and very consistent.
"We need to bring back British values. We need to make sure that we enforce British identity.”"

Our culture, whether you are religious or not, is not one of ‘pushing women to the back’.