Thread 44 Starmer - Knolraap en lof, schorseneren en prei.

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Of course the deeper issue here is the electoral system simply failing.

The unfortunately monikered topic of Electoral Reform is the silent dog at the moment. The principle has almost unanimous parliamentary support (Reform aren't interested, to add to the irony). Certainly over 52%.

I suspect a PR rerun of yesterday would see Reform doing even less well as people could have safely voted for other candidates safe in the knowledge they wouldn't end up perversely represented.

I think the jeopardy that has always existed in elections is now hurting the establishment more than the plebs. And that (obviously) cannot be allowed to continue.

More heartless gloating .. .

Pronounced as 'acorn'

And a Conservative Party doner.

Donor.

Can't remember the last time I ate a kebab.

We’ve been saying this for a while haven’t we? Reform’s rise in the polling is worrying but the one thing no poll can take into account is the strength of feeling against reform.

It’s a bit of a stretch to think anyone thinks this is a good day for Labour. It is however a good day for the whole country. And for people thinking the Tory party getting their deposit back is hilarious.

Just seen someone call Goodwin the Shadow MP for Gorton & Denton.

Same
your dd sounds marvellous.
it wasn’t a good night for Labour to say I’m disappointed is an understatement but thank fuck it was a good day for the left & progressive’s I am genuinely glad.

Reform’s rise in the polling is worrying but the one thing no poll can take into account is the strength of feeling against reform.

You can to an extent. But that isn't news is it ? In a way, Reform are "news" because traditionally the British public have avoided fascists cunts.

And yesterdays result just reinforces that.

Thank you. I'm the same about the result as well. I love a win against fascism.

So when Asians get together they are capable of organising a by-election win.

But when white patriot brits get together they struggle to paint roundabouts ? ( That's when they aren't killing themselves falling of ladders)

I know who I'd rather have running the country.

It’s the Muslim women I feel sorry for. They were literally falling over themselves to vote for Reform until their husbands made them vote for the Green Party.

We are past irony now, when you realise that the vast majority of men who support Reform do so as they believe their wives should do as they are told too.

In fact, a sharper wit than I would have immediate replied with "So you're jealous then ?" when a Reformista grumbled about "Family voting"

Keep 'em coming

😅

Everyone seems to be ignoring the actual candidates?! Does no one think it might be less to do with party politics or tactical voting (why - it’s one seat?)
and more to do with the fact that from what I’ve seen the Green Party candidate was an articulate, engaging women from the area. The reform guy was clearly deranged weirdo and I couldn’t tell you a thing about the Labour one. Lots of people especially in a by election where the vote doesnt count in the same way vote for the candidate and she seemed like an excellent one.

That obviously helped a great deal.

Absolutely. I think Hannah has a great future in politics. She has a lot of charisma.

Goodwin is widely disliked by everyone across the political spectrum as far as I can tell. Parachuting him into anywhere is an odd choice. Being a genuinely local candidate would be the only thing he has going for him anywhere.

@SerendipityJane Obviously any election fraud needs investigating, but beyond using the Trump playbook I can’t see what they think they can gain here. Or hoping the election can be re run and they can pick a different candidate.

Watching people try and square the Conservative Muslim husbands voting for people they are painting as the extreme left is going to be pretty funny for a while. Logical arguments are not their strong point.

It’s cos Gaza innit @RafaistheKingofClay
Utterly improbable, but that’s the right for you.

It's not about overturning/rerunning the by election. It's to stoke tension and frame the story as Muslims stealing elections (by voting).

Nevermind that nobody actually knows who those votes were cast for.
Charlotte Ann Cadden must have got her votes from somewhere!

Goodwin is widely disliked by everyone across the political spectrum as far as I can tell. Parachuting him into anywhere is an odd choice.

Not if Reforms are really just a grift machine to con Putin into shovelling cash Farages way. We've all seen The Producers I hope ?

I suspect Musks fallout with Farage was because he cottoned on.

It seems it is now OK to call a party and its supporters racist. But only if neither are Reform.

Yep. That’s the Trump playbook. It now no longer matters what any investigation finds because the noise is out there. And the people needed to hear it won’t question it.

It might be nicer if a few more media outlets had cottoned on before reporting it without being careful about wording.

Indeed.

Reform should start a go fund me. No not for you Nige!

It’s a good day for once - gives me hope that actually the better part of the population do not want no good racist grifters.
Hannah’s speech was good - a lot sounded like labour ideally should.
I have been drawn into commenting on the nastiest, most ignorant thread I’ve seen on here - pointless - but I wonder where such a level is coming from, but thinking it’s Reform bots tantrumming or Musk bots checking the lay of the land.
Anyway, I’ve lived 6 decades and managed a ‘first’ - fly posting for the Together March - won’t tell my grandkids as I tell them not to put stickers on things that aren’t theirs but pleased to do it myself!
I don’t know if everyone here is aware of Together? I’ll try learn how to post a link as my next ‘first’ ha!