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Labour isn't working - Thread 27

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TheNuthatch · 09/02/2026 17:26

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙 🩵

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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EasternStandard · 18/02/2026 09:57

The youth unemployment situation is diabolical and all on Labour.

How are they so divorced from rational thinking and basic economic insight? Ik it’s because of their backgrounds but still. Painful to watch them flounder and need to be taught by everyone else.

By backgrounds I mean lack of business experience and insight. It’s just woeful.

Kipperandarthur · 18/02/2026 10:01

EasternStandard · 18/02/2026 09:57

The youth unemployment situation is diabolical and all on Labour.

How are they so divorced from rational thinking and basic economic insight? Ik it’s because of their backgrounds but still. Painful to watch them flounder and need to be taught by everyone else.

By backgrounds I mean lack of business experience and insight. It’s just woeful.

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I'm in my early 60s and I have never experienced a government so deeply inept. It's actually terrifying how out of their depth they are. How divorced from rational thinking. How lacking they are in basic economic and business sense and lack of any credible business experience. It's all just ideology.

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:02

Upstartled · 18/02/2026 09:48

Another bleeding obvious U-turn ahead:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/gift/ec323c6b27ea0c77

Do you think that any of these cabinet ministers have been introduced to the real world, because these knock-on consequences are so apparent to every body else that it defies belief that this incompetence isn't intention.

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Another day, another U turn.
I was listening to a minister deny this story today. She said there is no link between the govt's NMW decision, and rising youth unemployment. 🤯

Also in The Times.
archive.today/oWRv0

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TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:03

Kipperandarthur · 18/02/2026 09:57

The ineptitude of this Government is utterly soul destroying.

It is.
Every day, its the same.

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EasternStandard · 18/02/2026 10:05

Kipperandarthur · 18/02/2026 10:01

I'm in my early 60s and I have never experienced a government so deeply inept. It's actually terrifying how out of their depth they are. How divorced from rational thinking. How lacking they are in basic economic and business sense and lack of any credible business experience. It's all just ideology.

Ik Blair wasn’t this even, everyone else knows the private sector matters. It’s so bloody painful to watch.

And that young people are getting battered by it is even worse.

Upstartled · 18/02/2026 10:06

It's like helplessly watching a toddler play with matches and hoping they learn about cause and effect before they burn the whole bloody house down with us all in it.

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:06

EasternStandard · 18/02/2026 09:57

The youth unemployment situation is diabolical and all on Labour.

How are they so divorced from rational thinking and basic economic insight? Ik it’s because of their backgrounds but still. Painful to watch them flounder and need to be taught by everyone else.

By backgrounds I mean lack of business experience and insight. It’s just woeful.

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Ikr
Just reading the chancellor's response to inflation falling this morning. She said this is because the decisions she made in the budget were the right ones.
Honestly, red mist! Inflation almost doubled because of her hitting businesses with NI costs. It was at target before she got her mitts on the economy ffs.

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DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/02/2026 10:08

The trouble this brand of Labour has is that it has no ability to weigh up consequences. The Tories under Major opposed a minimum wage because they said it would damage employment. They were proved wrong in principle by Blair, but only because he took a cautious view of benefit v risk and set the rates accordingly. The Tories adopted that approach to the minimum wage in later governments.

Similarly, Blair didn’t repeal any employment and union legislation of any consequence. He could see the risks.

But Starmer & co aren’t grown up enough or have enough spine to face down the studenty left of the party. So we’re getting massive burdens on businesses generally, but on employment costs in particular. Add in Miliband’s crazy energy costs, driven by his lack of ability to see a balance between carbon reduction and industrial necessity (another juvenile left policy), and you get rising unemployment and business abandonment of the UK. It will get worse.

Upstartled · 18/02/2026 10:12

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:06

Ikr
Just reading the chancellor's response to inflation falling this morning. She said this is because the decisions she made in the budget were the right ones.
Honestly, red mist! Inflation almost doubled because of her hitting businesses with NI costs. It was at target before she got her mitts on the economy ffs.

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And we have about two months reprieve before the next tranche of government mandated wage rises kick in and we play the inflation game again. Up 4.1%. All while businesses contend with business rate changes. Nice work, morons. 👍🏼

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:16

Upstartled · 18/02/2026 10:12

And we have about two months reprieve before the next tranche of government mandated wage rises kick in and we play the inflation game again. Up 4.1%. All while businesses contend with business rate changes. Nice work, morons. 👍🏼

Yep. Also employment rights kicking in.
There are already warnings from supermarkets that food inflation will likely rise again in the next few months.

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TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:31

Starmer is in Wales today. I'm sure Eluned Morgan is thrilled to have him on the campaign trail. 😂

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Upstartled · 18/02/2026 10:35

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:31

Starmer is in Wales today. I'm sure Eluned Morgan is thrilled to have him on the campaign trail. 😂

Right? What a pr nightmare.

EasternStandard · 18/02/2026 10:35

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/02/2026 10:08

The trouble this brand of Labour has is that it has no ability to weigh up consequences. The Tories under Major opposed a minimum wage because they said it would damage employment. They were proved wrong in principle by Blair, but only because he took a cautious view of benefit v risk and set the rates accordingly. The Tories adopted that approach to the minimum wage in later governments.

Similarly, Blair didn’t repeal any employment and union legislation of any consequence. He could see the risks.

But Starmer & co aren’t grown up enough or have enough spine to face down the studenty left of the party. So we’re getting massive burdens on businesses generally, but on employment costs in particular. Add in Miliband’s crazy energy costs, driven by his lack of ability to see a balance between carbon reduction and industrial necessity (another juvenile left policy), and you get rising unemployment and business abandonment of the UK. It will get worse.

I also think Starmer is brutally clueless on business and economics. I mean just an empty space on that one. Reeves is hopeless too and gets it wrong but every so often gets a headline to throw out to keep the us in the grind.

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:36

Upstartled · 18/02/2026 10:35

Right? What a pr nightmare.

At least Anas Sarwar had the courage to tell the bollard not to visit Scotland.

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Upstartled · 18/02/2026 10:37

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:36

At least Anas Sarwar had the courage to tell the bollard not to visit Scotland.

🤣

EasternStandard · 18/02/2026 10:50

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 10:36

At least Anas Sarwar had the courage to tell the bollard not to visit Scotland.

Haha it was worth that press conference for that alone

redange · 18/02/2026 10:57

Judging by some of the new posts on Mumsnet, it is obviously Half Term is here. The, posts that have been started by 'Public Sector' especially Teachers with no understanding of the Private Sector or business in general . These lack of understandings and general ignorance about operating any business that does not use any form of Public Money for survival unfortunately exist in the Cabinet as well. The, perception from many in the Public Sector being that all private owners of businesses are bringing in 'millions' unfortunately also this is believed by the likes of Raynor, Reid and Reeves !

The Labour Party and Socialist Governments in particular also do not seem to understand, that all products/services have a maximum price you can sell them for. The attitude which I have had the personal experience from Labour Party representatives being if your costs are higher, put your prices up. Thus, a distinct lack of understanding that if a product is unavoidable can no longer be sold.

redange · 18/02/2026 11:00

If a product is not affordable it can no longer be sold due to costs outside your remit ...

Whereistheejectbutton · 18/02/2026 11:25

Anas Sarwar had to try to do something as labour was go down hard here to a crashing defeat, Westminster Labour are a toxic brand. The snp are nearly as bad economically - listen to their followers say that higher rate tax payers leaving Scotland is great news because they’ll just be replaced by some other higher rate tax payers moving to Scotland to take that job…it’s one in, one out with jobs apparently…

zurigo · 18/02/2026 11:31

Kipperandarthur · 18/02/2026 09:57

The ineptitude of this Government is utterly soul destroying.

Yeah. Do you remember during the election campaign RR wittering on about how every financial decision under Labour was 'fully costed and fully funded'. God almighty!!! I've never known such a shit show! Nothing is even fully thought out, let alone fully costed and fully funded. They're just pulling fiscal policy out of their arses, from what I can tell, and when the economy lurches ever more into a doom spiral as the result of their latest catastrophic move they hastily u-turn and try some other stupid idea. It's just mind-boggling how inept they are. How can this country have ended up in such a mess? The Tories were a bloody disaster in many ways (five PMs in 14 years, Brexit, the disastrous handling of the pandemic, etc), but how I wish Rishi Sunak had won the last election. It's such a shame he was tainted by all the chaos that went before 😫

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 11:32

Jenrick has confirmed that Reform will restore the 2 child cap in full.

Reeves has been swerving questions on the potential 16th U turn on NMW. No denial.

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DancingFerret · 18/02/2026 11:37

If Starmer's in Wales, I wonder who's going to be on the receiving end of Kemi's jibes at PMQs today?

Edited for grammar.

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 11:39

DancingFerret · 18/02/2026 11:37

If Starmer's in Wales, I wonder who's going to be on the receiving end of Kemi's jibes at PMQs today?

Edited for grammar.

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No PMQs today Dancing, they're in recess.
I was hoping we'd get a break from Labour batshittery this week, but seems not.

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DancingFerret · 18/02/2026 11:52

TheNuthatch · 18/02/2026 11:39

No PMQs today Dancing, they're in recess.
I was hoping we'd get a break from Labour batshittery this week, but seems not.

Thank you. I was just coming on to say I'm an idiot...🤪

justasking111 · 18/02/2026 14:43

Thousands of hip operations to be cancelled for two months because of a shortage of the cement needed for the operations. In the telegraph apparently.

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