Labour isn't working - Thread 26

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The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Ah, thank you.

I'm gonna put that tweet at the top of the next thread.

I'd take Bear Grylls. He can't be any worse than whats currently on offer can he.

I'll pop it here in case it goes awol.

Sir Keir Starmer must take “personal responsibility” and quit over the Lord Mandelson scandal, Diane Abbott has suggested.
Ms Abbott, a Labour Party veteran who currently sits as an independent MP following her suspension last year, said: “Bamboozled by Mandelson, let down by the security services, misdirected by McSweeney.
“Surely leadership is also about taking some personal responsibility.”
On Morgan McSweeney’s departure, Ms Abbott said: “The Prime Minister and McSweeney both realised there was no way out.”

Yes, Diane!

Thanks. I've taken a screenshot. She can run....

Just been reading this thread on X from Joan Smith, (polblonde on X) very impressive woman who has no time for Starmer. I remember seeing video/photos of her confronting him. I’m reproducing the whole thing because she is so on the money:

"1) the Labour party's current situation has been years in the making. Under Keir Starmer it embraced a misogynist ideology encouraged by the leader. Women were bullied & harassed for refusing to believe men could be women. Abusive trans activists were allowed to harass women.

2. women repeatedly pointed this out. We were met with threats from leading figures including Angela Rayner to throw us out. Starmer repeated things that were both untrue and misogynist, such as some women have a penis.

3. I was a party member & I wrote to him, listing incidents of women being harassed. So did other women. No answer. I spoke to him face to face. I told him about things I & other women had seen. I said it looked to me as though he didn't give a damn about misogyny in the party.

4. He spluttered. He said he hadn't seen my letter. He made no attempt to respond to what I'd said - no concern, no apology for misogyny running riot in the party. He then got up and made a speech about the unacceptability of misogyny. As though it existed in another universe.

5. Of course I wrote to him again, reminding him of our conversation No answer. Am I suprised that Starmer apppointed a friend of a convicted sex trafficker as ambassador to the US? I am not.

6. Am I impressed with leading Labour figures now beginning interviews with 'my first thoughts are with the victims?' I am not. Labour under Starmer denied the existence of women & girls. It told us men could be women. It facilitated misogyny. This disaster has long roots."

That’s a great quote: it tells us all about the kind of man Starmer is.

I do quite often find myself liking Labour politicians as people even though I profoundly disagree with them. I always thought Clare Short was a decent person and probably great fun in private; Betty Boothroyd was a legend; dinner with Robin Cook would have been a joy; Prescott seemed genuinely and admirably self-made; I came to accept that Blair was a political giant.

But Starmer really is a snivelling little wanker. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I could throw him. I don’t believe a word he says. There is nothing, absolutely nothing, about him that is admirable or attractive.

Almost lost my coffee at the ‘snivelling little wanker’.

Bang on.

The tempo and phrasing in posts on him always makes me laugh. Well said.

Sir Keir Starmer.

He’s mission-driven, he’s laser-focused, he’s the grownup in the room, he’s making the tough choices needed for hard working families.

He’s also finished as a credible politician. What a grimly inept circus he’s presided over.

On the upside, he’s got some lovely free suits and specs. So it hasn’t been a total disaster.

Not forgetting broadening his horizons with endless foreign travel.

I don't know if J. K. Rowling normally comments on specific politicians

She's posted saying to get Starmer out.

STARMER’S PRESS CHIEF QUITS.

Wowser

Just saw the Pirate ship Crewkerne Gazette, best one yet.

Comin’ through!

A dead man walkin’

That is significant. Rowling is a long-term Labour supporter. She’s a Labour centrist. If people like JKR are agin him, he’s toast.

Starmer has run out of road.

Starmer-Labour is collapsing.

Another one bites the dust.

Come on, Starmer.

For once in your life, show some self-awareness, and do the right thing.

That is the speculation from some Labour MPs, who think that Sir Keir’s national security adviser may leave Government later today.

Some insiders think that Mr Powell, a former aide of Sir Tony Blair who worked with Lord Mandelson both in the New Labour years and when he served as US ambassador, is thought to be too close to the scandal.

One well-connected Labour MP says that things would look “shaky” for Sir Keir if he loses Mr Powell, who is sometimes described as the unofficial foreign secretary.

Karma, Mr Starmer.

I don't know - if he did hold on until May, he would at least take the heat for the May elections bloodbath. If he leaves now, the next leader will be tainted by that. Would it genuinely be better for Labour if he stayed (rather than just him being utterly arrogant and lacking self-awareness)

I was looking at the 10 year bond yields, since there's talk of those going up with the Labour shenanigans.

Labour people often claim that they're below the Liz Truss peak. But surely bond yields will take inflation into account, since the yield should return value in real-terms, ie discounting expected inflation over the next 10 years.

So with inflation dropping steadily since 2022, we'd expect the yields to have come down pretty significantly since Truss, because of lower inflation.

But they haven't.

So in real terms, the bonds yields show an 'idiot premium' already several percentage points higher than that applied to Truss.

Have I understood that correctly?