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Are you aware of the amount of SEN/additional needs pupils in class?

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yetiflowerpumpkin · 11/01/2026 11:42

I’ve put this in chat rather than anywhere else because I just want to highlight the scale of SEN/additional needs in schools. In my experience, and reading on MN, some parents aren’t aware of the issues school staff face in supporting these students.

I am an experienced cover teacher in a medium sized primary school. In the classes I cover there are 25-30 children.

As an example, in two of the classes 75% of the pupils have additional educational needs. Some are diagnosed, others are on the (years long) waiting list. Some have multiple needs (Autism, ADHD, AuDHD, SEMH, dyslexia, dyspraxia, dyscalculia, physical/visual impairment and other medical needs, some life threatening). I don’t think in any class I cover there is less than 40%.

I think some parents think their child is the only child with needs in class and cannot understand why those needs are sometimes not met. In the ideal world all those needs would be met, but there isn’t a possibility in mainstream with lack of support staff, lack of space and lack of funding.

I try and do my best (my own family are neurodivergent) but I know my best isn’t good enough for some parents.

Does it surprise you the amount of additional needs there are in class?

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yetiflowerpumpkin · 11/01/2026 14:41

Hotchocolateandmarsh · 11/01/2026 13:35

I am aware of most of the SEN kids in one class but only because I know quite a few parents well and my child is now at an age where they can articulate things that have happened in the class. Not so much my younger child due to age and not knowing the parents as well.

One thing that seems interesting is the behaviour in class and some people are labelled potential SEN when in honesty it looks like bad parenting. There’s one girl who is basically spoilt, the parents blame the teacher for her behaviour yet they pander to her and she has no consequences. Which angers me for children with SEN the wait list for support or EHCP is massive but clogged.

OP - how many children do you think actually SEN vs bad parenting?

I can’t comment on bad parenting. I only see a snapshot of when parents drop off or pick up their child, or when we discuss things such as bedtimes if a child is falling asleep in class. There are also some parents with their own undiagnosed SEN so we wouldn’t class it as bad parenting. We have had some parents “give in” to demands from their child in order to have a calmer home (families don’t want their dysregulated child affecting their siblings). Parents in most cases just need support and there’s very little out there.

Having a neurodivergent family myself, and working in this sector for many years, I can log behaviours that I think may indicate a need (the paperwork for this is never ending we need to evidence need in the class) and flag with the SENDCO. Some children mask then meltdown at home so we don’t always see it in class but need to be aware of the impact on the family, put support in place where we can (signpost to external support charities) and monitor what might be happening in school to cause the meltdown.

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trappedCatAsleepOnMe · 11/01/2026 14:45

I heard it's suposed to be one in five - but always been higher in neigbourhoods we live in.

Not found schools very helpful - dimissive and most of the support my DC have had been done at home. Took to uni to get the diagnosised because school refused to test and we couldn't afford private diagnosis. Fequently told my DC not bad enough to get help at school - but then also cristized because home support "masks" how bad they were.

Dsis been told newphew is one of several kids who can't cope with school day set up -so is only allowed in few hours a day as school can't cope also they keep pushing any diagnosis process back (also had this) - but there no plan to change how the day is planned they just expect a single parent trying to work to cope.

I think there probbaly an increase in SEN and other disbalities - older parents - older fathers known risk for some SEN - and premature babies living when in past they died - but there also kids like mine - eldest very like me - who could cope fall behind catch up get some additional support early to help in past and that's all gone.

All my kids struggled with an increasingly inflexible secondary school - loud noisy and poor displince all affecting them worst -seen it decribed as them being canaries in a coal mine.

MotherofPufflings · 11/01/2026 14:47

I suspect we're seeing a perfect storm of: an actual increase in SEN due to eg improvements in neonatal care; a reduction in special school places; increased recognition of SEN; changes to the school curriculum that don't work for some children; increased screen use; parenting/parental expectations.

I think the effects are society and the economy are going to be profound over the next generation.

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suburburban · 11/01/2026 14:47

BerryTwister · 11/01/2026 13:42

I think the increase in number of kids with diagnosed SEN is due to various factors, the main one being awareness (on the part of teachers and parents).

Looking back to my schooling in the 70s, there were always “naughty” kids, “thick” kids, “weird” kids. No one thought beyond those labels. Now they’d be diagnosed with SEN.

But I also think screens have a lot to answer for. Kids are given phones and iPads way too young. They’re watching YouTube shorts from the toddler years. It’s no wonder so many of them come to school at age 4 with an attention span of a couple of minutes. Kids are never bored, because long car journeys, waiting rooms etc, are dealt with by handing them a screen. This means they never have to dig deep in their imagination to entertain themselves.

I’m a GP and we’re not allowed toys in our rooms any more, because of infection control and health and safety. I used to see kids playing all sorts of games while their parents talked to me. Now they just sit there in the buggies looking at a phone. It’s so sad.

Yes

i know my dgs is not allowed tv till he is 2 for this reason possibly

i did used to let mine watch tv or a video but there were no screens then

feellikeanalien · 11/01/2026 14:48

Is this increase happening in other countries? We moved back from a southern European country because the schools there had no provision for SEN at all. When asked what additional help DD would get we were told that she would be kept back a year.

I do think forcing more children into mainstream because of the closure of special schools will be affecting numbers.

All children are being failed in my opinion. Those without SEN may not be getting as much teaching time because the teachers are having to spend more time dealing with the additional needs of others.

Children with SEN are also being failed as they are often put into SEN settings which are inappropriate for them. DD has developed serious school refusal at her SEN school as she finds the needs of some of the other children hard to deal with. There was never any issue at her small mainstream primary. I appreciate that we were very lucky as we had a very supportive head and a good SENCO.

I don't know what the answer is. There is clearly not enough money to fund all the help required but if children are not given sufficient help at an early stage then the costs are going to be greater in the future. Look at the number of young adults on disability benefits now.

It's a complex issue but I don't get the impression that much is being done to establish the causes of this increase. Unless this can be done then I fear it is only going to get worse.

Carycach4 · 11/01/2026 14:48

My class last year had over 70% SEN and of course tgst didn't include wearing glasses 🙄

DeafLeppard · 11/01/2026 14:56

I don’t think our children are physiologically different from children 30 years ago, and I think the increase in premature babies surviving is nowhere near enough to account for the number with SEN. I think we see this increase because the modern classroom is a worse place for many children than the classroom of 30 years ago, combined with increasingly poor/low parental standards. And schools are not the place to fix that.

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:06

Frostyontheline · 11/01/2026 11:45

Wow that is quite terrifying. What do you think would help? More sen schools?

Terrifying is interesting word choice. Why are you terrified?

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:12

2026willbebetter · 11/01/2026 11:52

OP is including children who need glasses and have some kind of medical need in her 75%. Some of those children will need support in school but some of them will have well controlled asthma or glue ear at one time. 75% of all children under the age of 10 yrs old will have had glue ear at one time but the majority of them won’t need any additional support.

That’s interesting- I think the stats need separating a bit to make that clear. One of my kids has bad asthma but it’s controlled. I wouldn’t class them as having SEN?

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:14

Cadenza12 · 11/01/2026 11:58

The question that needs to be addressed is why there's such a high percentage
Is it a breakdown in discipline? Are there medical or environmental factors at play?

It’s not discipline if it’s a diagnosed condition!

BobblyBobbleHat · 11/01/2026 15:17

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:12

That’s interesting- I think the stats need separating a bit to make that clear. One of my kids has bad asthma but it’s controlled. I wouldn’t class them as having SEN?

Op has clarified that she has not included those children.

Penelope23145 · 11/01/2026 15:18

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:06

Terrifying is interesting word choice. Why are you terrified?

Surely it has quite terrifying implications for society in the future if these children are not getting the help they need now?
These kids need the help they require to be able to do a job in the future or move onto further study. Obviously some kids are never going to be able to work due to the severity of their needs but the ones that do stand some chance of being able to enter the workforce need that support. This is so important. We already don't have a birth rate which is replacing those dying. We have an increasingly aging population who are living longer with more complex needs who will need increasing costs spent on them for care etc. We also need young people to be able to care for them unless we are going to continue to rely increasingly on immigrants to do this. This is without even considering the long term costs of how we support increasing numbers of people who may not be able to work enough to support themselves or live independently and parents who may not be able to work because they are carers. There needs to be huge investments clearly in SEND provision.
Of course it's terrifying.

2026willbebetter · 11/01/2026 15:19

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:12

That’s interesting- I think the stats need separating a bit to make that clear. One of my kids has bad asthma but it’s controlled. I wouldn’t class them as having SEN?

No, I wouldn’t and neither would the school but the OP included it in their 75%.

MsGreying · 11/01/2026 15:20

https://explore-education-statistics.service.gov.uk/find-statistics/special-educational-needs-in-england/2024-25

Over 1.7 million pupils in England have special educational needs (SEN)
This is an increase of 93,700 (5.6%) pupils since 2024. This includes the number of pupils with an education, health and care (EHC) plan and the number of pupils with SEN support, both of which continue the trend of increases since 2016.

  • The percentage of pupils with an EHC plan has increased to 5.3%, from 4.8% in 2024.
  • The percentage of pupils with SEN support (no EHC plan) has increased to 14.2%, from 13.6% in 2024.
BobblyBobbleHat · 11/01/2026 15:23

2026willbebetter · 11/01/2026 15:19

No, I wouldn’t and neither would the school but the OP included it in their 75%.

Go back over her posts, no she didn't.

hotpotlover · 11/01/2026 15:26

I grew up in Germany, I'm 38 now and have lived in the UK for almost 20 years.

My brother, who is 40, had significant speech problems when he was younger (stuttering etc).

His problems already became clear in Kindergarten ( in Germany, you start school between 6 and 7 years old).

He then was able to start at a specialist language school instead of going to mainstream.

I don't know what the exact process was, but most likely it was simple, maybe his pediatrician wrote him a referral.

I don't remember my parents having had to fight for a place.

If he was a child in the UK in 2025, he'd be in mainstream school now, plodding along and more or less failing. He would also be on the SEND register.

Our parents would have to fight for support and an EHCP.

So having lived experience of SEND in another country, I think it is the lack of early detection of issues and support in the UK.

Also the closure of specialist schools.

Politicians in the UK want to save money on SEND children. It is a big political issue and talking point.

In other countries it wouldn't even be entertained cutting special transport for SEND children.

BillyBites · 11/01/2026 15:31

I can quote you two KS2 classes I work with in two separate schools, both in "leafy," affluent areas (if that's relevant), where one has 10 kids out of the 30 and the other 15/30, either with official diagnoses of ADD or ADHD already or on the (lengthy) waiting list due to concerns by the associated professionals in the know. That is aside from special adaptations to class life being made for other children with anxiety or sight/asthma-type conditions.

BertieBotts · 11/01/2026 15:31

The Warnock Report was earlier than the 1970s and suggested 20% IIRC, so I do think that there was a 20% that there was an awareness of even in the 1970s. Some of them BTW were given names like "Educationally Sub-Normal" which is not especially helpful and no longer used today. We didn't have an understanding of the more specific diagnoses like Dyslexia until later on.

The thing that probably makes this make more sense is that the majority of that 20% would not have been in mainstream schools. For example OP said:

Other medical needs can be things like cerebral palsy where the child needs support from an adult to do regular physio.

I don't think children with needs like regular physio would have been in mainstream schools until fairly recently. In some ways the inclusion of children with needs like this in mainstream makes absolute sense - there's no reason for them to be in a specialist school if this is their only need and they can access standard education otherwise. However, it does make it difficult for the school because presumably this physio can't be done in the classroom so it takes an adult away from the class for regular periods and this probably isn't properly funded. Also there might be more children reaching school age with these kinds of disabilities. In the 1950s, my grandparents had a child with CP and he died before he was 1 year old, which was presumably more common in the past.

I understand that there has been a measurable increase in the number of children with significant medical needs and disabilities, due in part to things like better survival rates of premature birth, and these children are now taking up the majority of spaces in SEN schools (which makes sense, as they obviously need that support) but this means that children who would have previously been sent to special schools are now kept in mainstream because there is no space for them elsewhere, and the accommodations they need may not be practical or realistic for a mainstream school to implement. I would guess this is also related to the mass closure of special schools/inclusion policy in the late 90s? As in the schools were closed because it was thought it would be better to meet the needs of "less complex" pupils in MS schools - arguably likely to be true if the schools had ever been given enough resources, funding, staff and training in the first place. But the combination of fewer places in special schools and higher numbers of children with the most complex needs has meant that not only are children with low support needs in MS schools but also children with more moderate needs, who were never expected to be there in the first place.

I wonder also if access to early intervention has reduced because the poster saying they work in a nursery and years ago children wouldn't come to nursery without being potty trained etc. But there must have BEEN children with SEN in the past too, even if they existed in smaller number. So why weren't they ending up in nursery? I feel like in the past, health visitors had more time and smaller caseloads and did more developmental checks, more children seemed to get speech therapy early on, which might have then sent them on a split path - with some improving and their other communication/behaviour/development improving as a result and they went on to nursery and school without much incident, whereas some would have more complex needs identified and perhaps never would have gone to a mainstream setting.

Plus when DS1 (now 17) was entering nursery, I was told that he MUST be potty trained and was not allowed to attend in nappies. I only managed to get him dry about a month before he started, so I remember being worried about it. I wonder if perhaps I hadn't managed, what I would have done - maybe I would have kept him at home until he was school age? Or if he had had some SEN that made it difficult, I probably would have taken him to the doctor who would have been able to refer him. Friends who are still in the UK (I am not) have had a child referred and they were literally on the waiting list for years while their undiagnosed autistic child attended mainstream nursery without being able to speak, interact normally with other children or use the toilet. It seems to me like if they had had an earlier assessment of needs, they might have been offered a place in an SEN nursery. Or not. I don't actually know, but that's what my assumption would be.

I've seen anecdotal stories as well from MNers on long threads like these, where their child was identified with some difficulty at a younger age and told they wouldn't manage in MS school so offered a place at a specialist school. But these days parents seem to have to fight for this, nobody is being offered it, and in the meantime their child is on roll at a MS school and either attends with huge problems or is at home half the time with EBSA, all of which doesn't seem to work for either the child, the teacher, the parent(s) or the rest of the class.

Although I'm abroad so can't speak to the UK system, I feel this is exactly what has happened with my own DS2. He was struggling with behaviour throughout the local version of nursery and although he did have some speech therapy and I did take him for some developmental testing and they identified some problems including ADHD, it seems like ADHD is so common there is no blanket assumption that they can't manage in a mainstream school - which in many ways, fair enough. But then he did start school and it was just immediately a disaster. Again it is nonfunctional for him, for his teacher, for me and for the rest of his class, and there seems to be no automatic plan or solution and this has completely floored me. I was obviously massively naive about this, but I think I assumed that either his needs are pretty standard and so the school would be able to handle them, or his needs are extreme and should have been identified by nursery or the testing he had before he started school, and we should have been advised about alternative options, or the school would immediately identify that they can't meet his needs and put some kind of emergency plan in place, e.g. moving him to the remedial class, (which hasn't happened) or some kind of temporary arrangement while more assessments are done, which seems to be what we are doing - I went back to the doctor, they brought someone in from their side - but this all took months and in the meantime he's just been left in class in the scenario which isn't working. I have a meeting next week to find out what's happening next.

ShowmetheMapletree · 11/01/2026 15:38

rainbowsandraspberrygin · 11/01/2026 15:14

It’s not discipline if it’s a diagnosed condition!

Exactly, my dc was formally diagnosed by a consultant psychiatrist as AuADHD, with a supportive loving homelife. I think the experts know better than the uninformed/misinformed.

It is an extremely lengthy process, and people are not diagnosed lightly. When it is parenting/environment/behavioural, they identify it. I remember some disgruntled parents in the welcome meeting who were going through the process again because they were convinced parenting and behavioural issues were not the cause; this really does clog the system up which is very unhelpful for those who do fit the criteria/have additional needs that require investigation. It really is not a a flippant diagnosis as some people seem to think.

stichguru · 11/01/2026 15:55

Is this partly that the curriculum has got more prescriptive and regimented over the years and the number of targets for each year or key stage has grown? The knock on of this has been that children need to study in particular ways and reach a particular goals each year. Therefore when children fail to do this, the school is under pressure to sort out the "failing children" and "failing teachers" to increase the number of children meeting these goals.

Alongside this, classes seem bigger and the presence of a general TA for the group seems rarer so it has got much harder to help children meet these targets. I work in further education with adults who are studying for GCSEs in Maths or/and English or who are working towards lower level qualifications which will eventually lead to GCSEs and a lot of them do very well despite having "failed" school. We generally have smaller groups with a TA in the group (20ish rather than 30ish). I think some of the increase of SEN in schools is the raised expectations coupled with less support, which means the ability to support student's individual needs is lower and the expectations on them are higher leading to more "failiure".

BertieBotts · 11/01/2026 15:55

@hotpotlover there is special transport for children in Förderschule. Even in a Förderlasse in a mainstream school, transport is offered, in the form of a minibus. It's offered as I understand because ordinarily, primary school places are allocated based on waling distance, as primary school children are assumed to be waling to school. Specialist places are further apart so may not be within waling distance, so transport is offered. When I looed at the Förderlasse, it was at the same primary school we were assigned to anyway so I probably wouldn't have used the transport, but it was an option.

I understand it is offered on basically the same principle in the United ingdom. You don't just automatically get a taxi the minute your child is identified as having SEND. It's when they attend a school which is further away from home due to that school meeting their needs better. Intended to mae life possible for parents who may not have access to a car or may need to drop off other children in a different direction at the same time.

(Apologies for missing letter "cay" - for whatever reason it is not woring - will as in Site Stuff, as saw someone else mention this issue the other day).

PrincessSakura · 11/01/2026 16:01

I am a SEN TA, I specialise working 1-1 with SEN children across the whole school (mainstream), within our setting I would say it’s closer to 15-20% per class. We have an average of 24 children per class.

Needlenardlenoo · 11/01/2026 16:01

CodifyThis · 11/01/2026 14:24

That's interesting. I thought that TA positions were quite competitive - I know it's low wage but working school hours and getting the holidays off suits a lot of mums in particular. Do you think it's more difficult to recruit than it used to be?

Yes, because supermarkets for instance pay very well, and lots of alternative jobs now offer some WFH, which schools can't compete with.

twinkletoesimnot · 11/01/2026 16:05

Unpopular and maybe politically incorrect but potential causes…..
More Prem babies surviving.
More people who have SEN themselves having (multiple) children.
Attachment problems because of childcare use full time from a young age - soon to be 9 months!
Also overstretched parents both working who are too tired to feed, read to or play with their child after a busy day - but this is what the government wants! Free breakfast clubs! yay!
Also older parents probably.
Screen time
Processed, cheap food.
Artificial sweeteners.
i don’t think it’s any one of the above but likely a combination of them and many others I haven’t thought of.

Teachers are leaving in droves and I would if I could afford to as every day I go home and sob because I have let the children down.
I am only one person.
I don’t think they can improve the situation without investing significant sums of money.
But we do need to work out the root cause(s.)
The future where more than half of society is not able to function/ earn a living is not sustainable.
I had ‘manual handling’ training at my inset last week and my head teacher said I need to always have my hair tied back and offered to buy me a bite shield for my arm…. This is not why I became a teacher.

landlordhell · 11/01/2026 16:06

I’m a HLTA and cover classes when teachers have PPA. I’m experienced( 18 years in school) and educated to A level. My pay is not good but I love my job. I don’t want to be a teacher because I see the reality, I don’t need the holidays anymore as DC are now adult. But, I would love to be paid my annual salary ( £26-£28k) and not the pro rata equivalent( about £19k) for full time. Teachers are paid a salary not an hourly rate. I would be happy to work in the school holidays and just take 5 weeks pa like the rest of the working population. There are so many things we could get sorted that we don’t have time to do. CPD could take place then instead of during term time.

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