What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?

[theotherfossilsister]

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

Maybe Trump will do the same for us ?!

Ok well it would have been interesting to see if you backed his return if you had the decision, given your posts.

The people in Venezuela are key in this imo

Be careful for what you wish for

I don't think that it can be pursued right now, but who knows, 3 days ago I would not have thought he could kidnap the head of another state but it happened.

Maria is not liked, even by Venezuelans who oppose Maduro.

Primaries for candidates in the American midterm elections this year start in March. Trump's approval rates in his base are severely down right now (plus no Charlie Kirk to mobilize the younger vote), so it would be a massive mistake.

Plus there is Iran as a bigger target and also Ukraine/Russia.

The best thing to hope for, is for the Venezuelans' in Venezuela to have some stability.

It’ll be interesting to see the UN Security Council vote outcome, not sure when it is

Always the people should come first, they suffer the most.

This was the region a mere 40 years ago,
video is about the Contras in Nicaragua last time America fought "leftists" [trigger warning]:

No one needs this again.

Why is none of this on Maduro? The person deciding on policy and harsh actions
For Venezuela that is

@BelleHathor but they’re not “fighting” are they. A better analogy is Panama, Grenada or the Colombia Plan.

Actually yes I AM Thinking of the people, and yes I truly HOPE that America have removed Maduro and the plan going forward is to ensure that the citizens are free from this dictator- I doubt it will be as clean.”, hands are covered oil and blood.
Effectively one dictator has ousted another, let’s see what happens in the next couple of months , I guarantee this is the beginning of Trumps mission to ‘ liberate’ a few other places , including Greenland. But hey ho!

I’ve greatly enjoyed the mental gymnastics of the last few days with many commentators seeking to defend Maduro. A nice warm up for when Khamenei flees into the arms of his best buddy Putin.

Suzanne Moore tweeted that channel 5 has a programme about Michael palin hopping across Venezuela. They were held at gunpoint by police. It’s a good documentary, I learned a lot about a country I’m in almost complete ignorance about.

Best wishes to Iranians too.

It's been approximately 72 hours, no one knows how this is going to shake out yet. There could be a potential for fighting if Trump attempts to impose his will.

Remember George W. Bush famously declaring Mission accomplished a few weeks into Iraq war 2 in 2003. The Americans are still in Iraq today and lost thousands of soldiers due to that war.
https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/05/04/mission-accomplished-was-a-massive-fail-but-it-was-just-the-beginning/

Teddleshon1 · Today 19:41
I’ve greatly enjoyed the mental gymnastics of the last few days with many commentators seeking to defend Maduro

I’m surprised to be honest. I can understand opposition to Trump’s actions but I thought a leader who starved and tortured his opponents such as Maduro would be considered completely unacceptable by most people.

Whatever happens a few dictators around the world will be thinking twice about shooting protesters in their streets!

It’s interesting protestors want Maduro back in place to do this, unaware of what he’d do to them

I’m more surprised by those posters who haver and evade about change in Iran. How anyone can make even lukewarm noises against action - domestic or foreign - to bring down the monsters in charge of that country is beyond me.

Well, almost.

@DenizenOfAisleOfShame I agree with you but it is a hell of a thing to have up to in terms of which side you have actually been cheering on.

@BelleHathor , unfortunately, I don't have time to keep up with this thread at present. I wondered if you might be interested in reading this post, as your posts have been well informed and sensible throughout and at a quick glance this looked v worth reading.
renegaderesources.pro/p/the-venezuelan-oil-narative-is-pure

It's obviously hard for some Brits/Americans, etc to understand but not everyone thinks the same or feels the same as you! As with every government, some support them, some do not. Even amongst those who do not support Maduro/the Iranian leaders, many will certainly not want a US/Israeli take over. That nearly always makes things far worse. These people are not stupid. They understand America's long history of disastrous invasions and takeovers.

Apart from that, the Venezuelan attack/kidnapping of Maduro is nothing to do with him being an evil dictator and absolutely nothing to do with helping ordinary Venezuelans. There are many well informed posts on here and I just posted an interesting link too. I'm gobsmacked that anyone actually thinks the well known benevolent, wise and egalitarian Trump has any thought for helping anyone else.

As long as they hate the West, the US and capitalism, they are acceptable, even the mad Mullahs.

Well, yes, I get that there are some crazy Islamists in the world. No doubt some of them live in Iran. But pointing to their support for the dictatorial Iranian theocrats is no sensible answer to anything.

https://x.com/banbadmen/status/2007933613619438003?s=20
The trans have turned out for the dictator.

Funny, people calling Trump a dictator are backing an actual dictator 😅

Excellent article, non emotional and factual, which lays out the geopolitical aims clearly. The Human rights and Oil Spin is to manufacture consent from the uninformed public. It's much easier to sell than, "we fucked up so royally by sending all our manufacturing to China, destroying our education system and making expensive widgets, that we can't possibly catch up fairly"

I don't agree with some her points regarding the reason for Chinese, Iranian and Russian presence in Venezuela as they also read as "sexed up" justifications for future actions against these 3 countries, instead of maybe they are just assisting an ally. The writer is after all a Fox News contributor and things like that appeal to that audience.

Ironically by using that excuse Trump has just justified Putin's "Special Military Operation" as Europe is in Russian sphere of influence lol.

Trump has previously said that he wants to destroy BRICS, this single move signals that he is serious. He has also sowed discord and distrust as lots of people were blaming Russia and Iran on Saturday for not aiding Venezuela (especially after Syria's fall in 2024).

This is all Geopolitical chess and unfortunately Venezuela is just a pawn.