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What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?

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theotherfossilsister · 03/01/2026 07:47

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

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PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 16:27

rainingsnoring · 03/01/2026 15:29

You do know that there are poor people in the UK too and many other countries in addition. Many of them are extremely unhappy with their leadership too. Are you a fan of Labour?
Should the US be attacking them all too? I'm really not following your logic here.

Ironically, some right wingers on MN are predicting the UK will end up like Venezuela under Starmer. So perhaps Trump can come and "save" us too?

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 16:27

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 16:09

China is playing the long game and well. They are economically active in many countries with resources. This was done through buying and investment more than anything.

They also have vast military and AI capability and resources so best case is a benign system, not the opposite. I don’t automatically assume they will be peaceful or not peaceful, and find discussion a bit frustrating and opaque on that, but I will say the west not taking their capability seriously enough to counter is a mistake.

I know it's 'only' a sci-fi novel but I find The Three Body Problem really interesting as a read if you want a Chinese perspective on power relations, morality and long-term thinking. More seriously though, the key values seem to be community and pragmatism, so playing the long game is hard-wired into the way the country functions. They tend to view Western style democracy as an impediment to long term strategic planning, as it's too chaotic and short-termist. China is opaque because it works on its 400 year plan basically. What will thei needs be in the next decades and century? I don't know, but that mentality is not really conducive to wild imperialistic moves unless absolutely necessary,. However, it means that some goals are pursued relentlessly, such as tech advances and securing access to water. In that respect, geopolitically, the most significant region for that is the Himalayas. Taiwan serves a different purpose.

Dawnintheageofaquariams · 03/01/2026 16:29

theotherfossilsister · 03/01/2026 07:47

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

The orange paedo has taken control of another country - firstly to distract from his child-rape and secondly to get some cheap oil.

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 16:30

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 16:06

They will return to their country. Before the regime Venezuela was in a much better place. There was inequality but nothing like it is now. Maduro and co are very corrupted and indeed involved in drug trafficking. This is the way to extract him from Venezuela put him in jail.
Maria Corina being placed by the US is a lie. Anyone really following the situation for years would know this. She has always being in opposition.
There are a lot of misinformation and an agenda in this treat. Perhaps the original poster should clarify if she wanted another daily Trump bash treat or if the point of it is to discuss Venezuela”s next steps. I am pretty sure that the millions of people suffering for 27 years of this dictatorship deserve to be supported in a day like this. The Venezuelan government is not legitimate and is time to let Democracy be restored. Whether people want to be in the right side of history or not is up to them. For facts follow the main news sources.
i will not come back because is full of lies and misinformation.

OK, bye then!

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 16:30

StandFirm · 03/01/2026 16:27

I know it's 'only' a sci-fi novel but I find The Three Body Problem really interesting as a read if you want a Chinese perspective on power relations, morality and long-term thinking. More seriously though, the key values seem to be community and pragmatism, so playing the long game is hard-wired into the way the country functions. They tend to view Western style democracy as an impediment to long term strategic planning, as it's too chaotic and short-termist. China is opaque because it works on its 400 year plan basically. What will thei needs be in the next decades and century? I don't know, but that mentality is not really conducive to wild imperialistic moves unless absolutely necessary,. However, it means that some goals are pursued relentlessly, such as tech advances and securing access to water. In that respect, geopolitically, the most significant region for that is the Himalayas. Taiwan serves a different purpose.

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I find the take here frustrating, I mean generally not in your post. I worked for a company that invests globally and it’s not as sometimes positioned, it really is just buying and investing in Africa or wherever and people are of course happy to sell to them and get the benefits.

So I’m torn on feeling they’re misrepresented but also they are serious about military power. And if they were to be viewed as a raft they’re a huge one, other blocs need to sort out their life rafts too.

Ilovelifeverymuch · 03/01/2026 16:32

cassie2and2 · 03/01/2026 16:12

Seems Trump has kidnapped Maduro and his wife, why then hasn't he given orders to kidnapped Putin?

The Russia Ukraine war is seen as an European war and there's even videos of Obama saying the same, the US doesn't see Russia as a direct threat.

Issues in Venezuela on the other hand have a direct impact on the US due to proximity (sphere of influence) and also Maduro being an ally of China creates more risk in the event the US and China end up in war due to Taiwan which seems to be creeping closer and closer. Xi Jinping recently reiterated that he intends to take Taiwan soon and you can see the US now working with Japan to rearm it's military.

If a war broke out between the US and China, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba etc would obviously side with China.

You can see the new Japanese PM is noe being more vocal against China
https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-reiterates-demand-that-japanese-pm-retract-taiwan-remarks-2025-12-16/

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/11/g-s1-101702/us-japan-military-china-tensions

https://www.defensenews.com/global/asia-pacific/2025/12/31/pacifist-japan-moving-from-exclusive-self-defense-to-military-buildup/

It's all about building a coalition against China hence why the US has been pushing European countries to take up their own security and recently the US asked Germany to take command of NATO for the first time, NATO forces have always been led by a US military leader but the US is pivoting to Asia so Europe needs to take control if it's own security.

And to be fair the "pivot to Asia policy" started with Obama but EU leaders did not act. That's on them.

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 16:32

rainingsnoring · 03/01/2026 15:27

We don't have accurate details of what he is doing but we do know that the US has been sanctioning the country, causing terrible poverty.

Even if Maduro has been deliberately impoverishing his people, how is that justification for the US invading a sovereign country, bombing and destroying infrastructure, arresting the democratically elected leader, and installing their own US friendly leader so that they can steal the oil, etc?

I agree with everything you said, but to be fair, Maduro was not the democratically elected leader in the last election. He refused to leave and cracked down on opposition.

*Which still does not give the US the right to invade and kidnap him.

joeninetey · 03/01/2026 16:33

He's a lad isn't he ?

climbintheback · 03/01/2026 16:33

Some oil techi stated this am that 80% of their oil reserves are an hill that is very difficult to mine and clean and no one wants it!

BelleHathor · 03/01/2026 16:37

TheGrinchWasHere · 03/01/2026 16:23

That’s quite a theory. Where have you extracted this from? Can anyone else add to this?

Im a South African and the BRICS narrative resonates with me. We are a tiny insignificant economy that has been tagged onto the end of this acronym for some strange reason when we have very little to add to any of this global power struggle.

Source is one of the Finance Bros on Social Media,
https://x.com/Ric_RTP/status/2007429683713917147?s=20

It is and has been discussed widely in geopolitical circles for years.
I thought it was a good overview of the geopolitical and financial motivations.
It was part of the theory as to why Russia didn't take the whole of Ukraine in 2014 and stopped at Crimea. BRICS (created in 2015) needed time to get parallel systems into place in order to counter any weaponization of the current financial systems.

South Africa is in BRICS as it was invited by China in order to represent African interests and to promote a multipolar world. It might not be "powerful" however the resources in Africa are immense and it's better to be at the table.

Ricardo (@Ric_RTP) on X

The real reason the US is invading Venezuela goes back to a deal Henry Kissinger made with Saudi Arabia in 1974. And I'm going to explain why this is actually about the SURVIVAL of the US dollar itself. Not drugs. Not terrorism. Not "democracy." Thi...

https://x.com/Ric_RTP/status/2007429683713917147?s=20

YourAmplePlumPoster · 03/01/2026 16:38

climbintheback · 03/01/2026 16:33

Some oil techi stated this am that 80% of their oil reserves are an hill that is very difficult to mine and clean and no one wants it!

When they nationalised oil and kicked the Yanks out, things collapsed because they had no skilled personnel to manage the oil resources.

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 16:39

dottiehens · 03/01/2026 16:06

They will return to their country. Before the regime Venezuela was in a much better place. There was inequality but nothing like it is now. Maduro and co are very corrupted and indeed involved in drug trafficking. This is the way to extract him from Venezuela put him in jail.
Maria Corina being placed by the US is a lie. Anyone really following the situation for years would know this. She has always being in opposition.
There are a lot of misinformation and an agenda in this treat. Perhaps the original poster should clarify if she wanted another daily Trump bash treat or if the point of it is to discuss Venezuela”s next steps. I am pretty sure that the millions of people suffering for 27 years of this dictatorship deserve to be supported in a day like this. The Venezuelan government is not legitimate and is time to let Democracy be restored. Whether people want to be in the right side of history or not is up to them. For facts follow the main news sources.
i will not come back because is full of lies and misinformation.

So why is Maduro's vp still in place?

What's the US's plan to place Machado and Gonzalez in power? What are they going to do to support a peaceful transition? Particularly with the military aligned with Maduro? What will happen to the current VP?

What will they do for funding, since this has not been congressionally approved? How will the American citizens respond to needing to send troops, boots on the ground to support a new, democratic regime while this all plays out?

Fill us in on how this is going to work @dottiehens

BelleHathor · 03/01/2026 16:42

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 16:24

Tbf Americans wanted that to stop. Aside from that any thoughts on Russia or China?

Ordinary American's do want it to stop, thankfully including a growing number of Trump's base, hopefully they will vote accordingly in November.

Russia and China do not have 750 military bases in about 80 countries and territories around the World and seem to stick to their respective sphere's of influence.

rainingsnoring · 03/01/2026 16:45

PandoraSocks · 03/01/2026 16:27

Ironically, some right wingers on MN are predicting the UK will end up like Venezuela under Starmer. So perhaps Trump can come and "save" us too?

Well exactly.
You can absolutely guarantee that they would then be the first people to complain if that were to happen. There's none so blind and all that!

dapsnotplimsolls · 03/01/2026 16:47

Trump 'We are going to run the country'.

DuncinToffee · 03/01/2026 16:48

Press conference

Trump on Venezuela: "We're going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition"

So much for the people of Venezuela and democracy

YourAmplePlumPoster · 03/01/2026 16:48

Maybe they can start exporting oil again instead of drugs.

rainingsnoring · 03/01/2026 16:48

user233675892 · 03/01/2026 16:32

I agree with everything you said, but to be fair, Maduro was not the democratically elected leader in the last election. He refused to leave and cracked down on opposition.

*Which still does not give the US the right to invade and kidnap him.

I'm not sure we have accurate information of any of it as there are always so many lies on every side in these situations.
As you say, even if he wasn't 'democratically elected, US style', ie hardly democratic, there is no justification for invading and kidnapping him and his wife.
The US is just a huge bully. Unfortunately, one that may just trigger WW3 with all their aggressive actions.

EasternStandard · 03/01/2026 16:48

BelleHathor · 03/01/2026 16:42

Ordinary American's do want it to stop, thankfully including a growing number of Trump's base, hopefully they will vote accordingly in November.

Russia and China do not have 750 military bases in about 80 countries and territories around the World and seem to stick to their respective sphere's of influence.

I wouldn’t say the Ukrainians agree re Russia. Nor those preparing in case he escalates.

China is a major power and if people prefer to ignore their military capability they could come to regret not building something to counter if required.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 03/01/2026 16:48

I wish Trump was as serious about Iran as Venezuela.

It’s great to hear that Mossad might be acting on the ground against the rule of the crazy deathmongers in Iran. But I doubt the Iranian people can topple the regime without US military help.

Caniweartheseones · 03/01/2026 16:50

Trump and his anti-Cuba/ liberal cronies are trying to put pressure on China as China gets oil from Venezuela and America had to give up on tariffs from China. So who knows- maybe war between China and US or a variation on that. Astrologically the super moon tonight and planetary conjunctions approaching mean that something big and global is happening on a scale with COVID. I’m aiming to keep my head and try in ways that I can to support positive choices for the world and people I’m close to.

rainingsnoring · 03/01/2026 16:52

BelleHathor · 03/01/2026 16:42

Ordinary American's do want it to stop, thankfully including a growing number of Trump's base, hopefully they will vote accordingly in November.

Russia and China do not have 750 military bases in about 80 countries and territories around the World and seem to stick to their respective sphere's of influence.

I feel really sorry for the ordinary Americans. All they wanted is a president who would concentrate on the US, particularly the US economy for ordinary working people, as opposed to the S&P500.
Instead, DJT seems to be focussed on multiple wars abroad to try to grab resources.

BelleHathor · 03/01/2026 16:52

Shades of Bush in 2003 when he prematurely announced "Mission Accomplished" in Iraq. America is still in Iraq today.

To run the country, they're going to need boots on the ground.

Definitely interesting times.

DuncinToffee · 03/01/2026 16:53

Trump is effectively saying for now he’s also President of Venezuela.

And he says that the US wants oil resources and he is prepared to “do a second, bigger wave”

Figgygal · 03/01/2026 16:53

Jesus Christ they've effectively invaded that country and taken control, isn't that what Saddam did with Kuwait to get his hands on their oil?
This needs to be condemned by everyone