What’s happening in Venezuela and what does it mean?

[theotherfossilsister]

I’m confused- has the US gone to war with them? What are the implications if so?

A fan of Labour? No I wouldn’t say that.

What would you suggest the people of Venezuela do? They can’t even vote Maduro out.

Should they just be left, I mean maybe some will say that, it’s a position.

I totally agree with you.
As far as I can see, US and Israeli involvement in Iran is a certainty. I expect I will get accused of being anti semetic now!
The entire thing is so depressing. They seem desperate to have a major war don't they.

I'm going to have to assume that your posts aren't serious.

Do answer rather than insult. What do you want to happen?

Sanctions are not new. Economic pressure is inevitably what lead to the collapse of apartheid in South Africa. Moral condemnation generally comes first, then economic pressures in the form of sanctions. Unfortunately most dictatorships seem to thrive under the deprivation of their own people and seem to have other equally despicable regimes which support their survival and sanctions dont then have the desired effect for a change.

Brexit could end up being the best thing that happened to the UK in the last 100 years if it does come to war in Europe.
This is where you're wrong. Brexit has weakened us but the realities of our geography means that we will have to get involved whether we like it or not.

No. Venezuelans go to neighbouring South American countries or Spain. Most of them bring valuable skills with them and make a useful contribution.

Maybe those who fled the Maduro regime will be able to return now.

"Moscow quickly condemned the blatant act of armed aggression against a sitting head of state."
ROFLMAO.

If venezuela attack the US back will it trigger NATO? That means we will become involved?

That's what many of them are saying in the diaspora.

Does Venezuela even have the ability to retaliate?

I agree with this. Interference by Western countries have often resulted in things getting worse not better. Seems lessons aren’t learned. As others have said this is about oil, Trump isn’t actually interested in making things better for the general population of Venezuela.

He wouldn’t be doing this if it wasn’t for oil.

There’s a load of other countries in the world he could go and undertake a regime change due to how their people are being treated if that’s what he was bothered about, but if those countries don’t have oil why would he?

I totally understand that there are major political and social issues in Venezuela, but why is it down to the USA to get involved? That’s a very western centric/saviour complex pov. That it’s up to the USA to decide what’s good and what’s bad and what needs to be done. What if Canada said Trump was a piece of shit for all the stuff he’s done and sent a snatch squad in to arrest him and fly him into Canada for trial? Why not if that’s what other countries can do now. 🤷‍♀️

I am struggling to see the difference in this invasion and Iraq invading Kuwait to get oil.

The sanctions were offered to be lifted if Maduro respected the election and let Gonzalez take office. He preferred to hang on.

I have no idea.

What do people think?

The article itself is fucking stupid.

Like, wtf is this shit:

But I’ll go even further: I am highly suspicious this may have been a coordinated plan between Trump and Maduro. It would not surprise me if Maduro and his wife are essentially given some form of asylum in the United States (or a country friendly to the Venezuelan dictator) while Trump pretends to seek punitive action against him that—surprise, surprise—never comes to fruition

Delusional as his ‘gender identity’

I wonder when the rest of the world will start sanctions against USA and it's inhabitants who voted for him and support him

Almost certainly not.

Exactly. Sanctions mean little to the people in charge of these regimes. They just pivot to other equally despicable entities who will support them in spite of the suffering of the people on the ground.

Not going to happen until those countries develop their own digital tech. US systems are everywhere. Can't just cut it off.

You should do that. It will surely go well for you.

You can't compare the Middle East to Venezuela. The ME is run by warring tribes most of whom have feudal enmities and vendettas going back centuries. Venezuela has a highly educated middle class who have more in common with Europeans.

Does that really sound so delusional? Nothing would surprise me anymore.

I think a lot of this is to do with the rise of China and where the fault lines lie in terms of power. What would people do about China?

That's a real issue.
One of the potential consequences of this intervention in Venezuela though is China feeling entirely justified in the full takeover of Taiwan.

This soc8al media post is nuts. Are they going to go after all militaries around the world that have machine guns, or sll leaders that carry guns/weapons?

Can we in the UK abduct Americans who carry guns because it's against our laws?

Independent countries have the right to sovereignty and to make their own laws. Wannabe dictators cannot ride roughshod over this fundamental right.