Does anyone still support this Labour government?

[PutTheCakeDOWN]

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

Wow go lie down sweetheart.

And there my friend is the foundation of our 'one person one vote' system. Every vote placed by a 'thick' person carries as much weight as one placed by an 'educated' person.

Nope.

But I know people who suffered massively over their mortgage rising almost twice (thanks Lizzie).

Yes they are ploughing through their manifesto commitments as well as dealing with everything that comes along. Starmer is well respected on the world stage by other leaders. I think he’s a thoroughly serious decent bloke who hates all the celebrity crap around being PM that others have loved. They’re certainly not perfect but name me a government that was.

The establishment always hates a Labour government and what we are seeing is a massive right wing, foreign owned media trying to bring this government down. Only in the last few years has there been a revolving door for Prime Ministers.

I support them

Not as much as Labour are now doing with the threshold freezes.

Did you not know this about the Rwanda plan?

Were you aware that the treaty also specified that anyone sent to Rwanda could be sent back to the UK under certain circumstances. And that it was not guaranteed that every person sent would be granted permanent residence status in Rwanda?

Did you also know that the UK Government had to bear the entire cost of relocation, accommodation, development and ongoing financial support for each refugee until they were self sufficient?

This information is available for you to read on the Government website under the Rwanda Asylum and Immigration bill.

Makes you wonder why the press were not up in arms about the cost. It’s almost like there was an agenda at play.

Well, I guess we've seen your true colours OP 🙄
Sensibly? Labour have in no way achieved as much as I hoped and they promised in their manifesto. IMO, they haven't been bold enough in terms of taxing the rich and building social housing- and have been trying to appeal to Reform voters with some nasty anti immigrant rhetoric, which is doomed to be counter productive.

That said, they seem to be popping out smaller, sensible changes left right and centre, which hardly anybody knows about because either it doesn't get reported and/ or their comms are crap.

Just off the top of my head: removing the presumption that abusive men have an automatic right to see their children in the family courts, £150 subsidy for energy bills (is that everyone or just because we're a low income household?), free school meals for all kids whose parents are on UC, renationalising the railways, bunging Cornwall £50m towards rare earth minerals extraction, reintroducing Erasmus, introducing a much needed expansion of National Grid capacity.

I might still vote for them. I would probably prefer to vote Green, but whoever's most likely to keep Reform out will get the vote in my constituency, and I imagine there'll be a lot of that going on.

That’s the issue, or one of them, people are stressed for good reason. It’s not the media or whatever it’s real impact on jobs etc

Do I support everything labour do? No.

Do I view them as better than the alternatives who have a credible chance of gaining power? Yes.

Will I be supporting them in the next general election? Yes.

My constituency will be a two horse race between Labour and Reform. Reform's economic plan is Trussenomics on steriods. Key reform members are on record stating views about women and minority groups that I am ardently opposed to. Despite not supporting every Labour policy they will be my choice at the ballot box.

No they wouldn't. Economics is not as basic and predictable as many people, yourself included, seem to think.

Exactly, when do a bunch of economists ever agree with each other?!

I do but I think they need to shout about their successes more. The free prescriptions, dental and eyecare up to the ages of 25 for care leavers for example, something really positive for a lot of young people.

Totally agree 👍

@PutTheCakeDOWN the ones the Tories introduced?

Yeah, sure. 🙄

I do. While they haven’t been outstanding, they’ve been vastly better than the Truss and Johnson governments. I don’t know anyone who would support Reform, and hardly anyone who would support Conservative.

Which Labour are extending in a more harmful period of inflation/cost of living.

There’s no point coming at me with ‘but the Tories…!’ I’m not a Tory voter or supporter.

Genuinely feel party-less and no idea who I’d vote for. Think I’d have to just go by the best local candidate.

I still prefer Labour to the alternatives but bloody hell they're making it hard to like them.

The constant flip-flopping and U-turns, the spinelessness on forcing through difficult but necessary reforms, the vindictiveness towards farmers and rural communities, the paying off of trade unions without securing anything in return, the performative virtue-signalling over Gaza, the laughable appointment of Tulip Siddiq as anti-corruption minister... yuk.

And it seems whenever Starmer announces a big new idea it's always something depressing and authoritarian. No-one is sat at home thinking "Well, I wasn't sure about Labour, but now that they're introducing mandatory ID cards I'm a complete convert!"

But as others have said, he seems to be a competent statesman, and they do seem to be fixing a lot of boring but important stuff.

I support them. They’ve done lots of great stuff which most people won’t know about because the uk media including the BBC don’t want to say anything good about this government. Whilst Farrage isn’t being asked questions about how his wife can afford to buy an £800k house in cash.

@PutTheCakeDOWN I mistakenly thought you were interested in a debate and had at least some conviction in your arguments. The Rwanda posts were a bit of a giveaway but the fiscal drag is too much.

It is broadly understandable, also what you’ve posted doesn’t deny negative impact. How did they not see it?

I think one reason is because they don't promise miracles and the moon on a stick, which Johnson did all the time. He kept telling us that good times were just around the corner. "I can get Brexit done." "I can build back better." Even during Covid, he kept doing this, while his handlers facepalmed. "In twelve weeks, we can send the virus packing." "Normalish by Christmas." "Significant normality by Easter." Some people kept seeing him as a beacon of hope, who kept promising instant gratification - it mattered not whether he actually delivered it. I think people keep expecting Labour to do likewise, to tell us what miracles they intend to work, to provide something to hope for.

I'm still feeling the relief that it's not Tories or Reform in government, which is a low bar, I know. The thing I am hoping for is that Labour are playing the long game, and planning to have something to show for their time in office by the time an election approaches, rather than being bogged down in the pantomime of "look how fantastic we are!". With clowns such as Johnson, Farage and Trump, I feel that performance politics has become too normalised. Give me boring men like John Major any day, not jesters like Johnson.

Nope! I used to watch from afar and wonder why the English voters wouldn’t vote labour in. Now I see what they’ve done since they finally got back in power, wouldn’t be surprised if they never got in again.

Labour are constantly doing soundbites, more money in your pocket and smash the gangs or whatever. I’m not sure why people are fine with that. Plus you’ll likely get digital ID before they’re out.