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Does anyone still support this Labour government?

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PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 12:24

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

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PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 15:46

Taxing working people to pay for the feckless and johhny foreigner is never going to win my vote

Like it or not - and I can almost hear the sharp intake of indignant breath - this is how many tax payers feel. I certainly do.
Labour and their supporters not only completely fail to see that this is a valid viewpoint, they also vilify it to the point of ‘no discussion.’

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Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:48

I was annoyed at the U turn on winter fuel and think the threshold should be lower and I absolutely believe the triple lock should be paused. I pay a lot of tax too and it needs to go into other areas.

itsgettingweird · 28/12/2025 15:48

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 15:04

So should we carry on paying crap wages then?

Someone’s got to get the wages raised in this country. And it ain’t going to be the employers doing it and that’s a fact.

Agree.

and paying crap wages against the level of housing costs increases the need for benefits. Which people don’t want.

The way to decrease the welfare bill is education and health which I think Labour are doing a good job on even if I don’t agree with all their policies and decisions.

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mugglewump · 28/12/2025 15:48

I still very much support them, as do most of my friends. There is an element of trying to please (appease?) everyone and ending up pleasing no one, but they have so much more integrity and honesty than the Tories or the racists.

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:50

and paying crap wages against the level of housing costs increases the need for benefits. Which people don’t want

Yep housing benefit is huge here compared to other counties. Successive housing policies have fucked the economy really.

itsgettingweird · 28/12/2025 15:51

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:12

The biggest impact on cost of living is our distorted housing market and childcare costs.

Absolutely agree.

I'm lucky enough to live in a HA property.

this allows me to have money to spend in the economy.

If I don’t I would be paying double what I pay now if which much would be covered by UC (it’s not now).Plus I’d be living hand to mouth and also unlikely to be able to give my disabled son what I do meaning his health would be worse.

people need money for a healthy lifestyle and to keep the economy rolling.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 28/12/2025 15:52

mugglewump · 28/12/2025 15:48

I still very much support them, as do most of my friends. There is an element of trying to please (appease?) everyone and ending up pleasing no one, but they have so much more integrity and honesty than the Tories or the racists.

Integrity and honesty? Seriously?

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:55

Having so much money tied up in housing impacts productivity

purpleleotard2 · 28/12/2025 15:57

Yes
My reasoning is that Labour broadly works for the good of all whereas the rightwing parties are more concerned the self-centred individual.
Labour = us as a nation
Tories = What I have I want to keep and not share for the common good

Tobycarverysquad · 28/12/2025 16:00

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 13:44

How long have you got??

IHT is a huge one which will have a massive impact on everyone. As tenant farmers, when our landlord passes on to the next generation it will probably mean them having to sell. We can’t buy it, so that’s probably us out of farming. There’s no security in our futures anymore.

One of the first things they did was to cancel the SFI grant scheme instantly with no warning. This has had a huge impact on not only farms, but the rural UK businesses who carried out the work. It was a proper ‘rug from under the feet’ moment.

Threatening to ban log burners.

The TRAIL hunt ban - a legal activity which provides jobs, income and most importantly, the opportunity and framework for farmers to meet every weekend over the dark winter months.

Setting incredibly costly animal housing and management targets, whilst still allowing meat from places like Thailand with dreadful animal welfare practices to come in and undercut us.

I could go on, and Iwill later when I get chance.

I'm from a farming family and I don't agree with what you are saying:

IHT has been increased to 2.5million per individual. It will have no impact on my families farm. It will impact very larger landowners and I don't see what that's such a bad thing.

The SFI wasn't removed - it was closed to.new applications?

There is no change to wood burning stoves and no threat to ban. The government have indicated a target to reduce emissions. There are already controls in place with the SCA and my understanding is that reductions come as a result of more efficient stoves, burning correct fuel etc. I fail to see why this is an issue.

Trail hunt ban - again see no problem here. We have very little to do with the hunt except that they use our land sometimes. It is hardly an accessible activity and even in our very rural area it is not a large part of anyone's life that I know. Hunting is a sport for rich people.

Animal housing - are you talking about the animal welfare bill? Literally no issue with that either. Would definitely rather not have cheap imported meat but my perception of Farage is that he'd sell his own granny - he doesn't believe in protecting British markets and I have no doubt we'd get American beef pumped full of hormones selling British farmers down the river.

MySweetGeorgina · 28/12/2025 16:06

Well they did everything I feared they would so far

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 28/12/2025 16:11

I can’t stand KS them and would never vote for them/ him he’s a wet puffy puddle of shit
like most of his cabinet

I dislike his very authoritarian way

dislike how he says one thing then will do the opposite . He has no strength at all .

along with the lifting of the 2 child benefit cap
attempting to bring in digital Id which was never in the manifesto at all as far as I can tell.

immigration

and slowly trying to get back into the EU by stealth.

Can’t stand him or labour and can’t wait till they fuck off

Meadowfinch · 28/12/2025 16:11

I didn't vote for them, but I did think they would be better than they have been.

The pointless spite of some of their policies achieved nothing and is so devisive
The horrendous levels of stress and the suicides caused by the family farm tax, only to be reviewed later. If only they'd bothered to think about the impact first.
The same with their procrastination over the autumn statement, spooking businesses, damaging sales pipelines, causing redundancies. Scaring those on PIP.

The govt is ignorant and incompetent. I'll be pleased to be rid of them. The difficulty is who is likely to replace them. 🙁

Boomer55 · 28/12/2025 16:14

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 12:24

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

No. I won’t be voting for them again in the near future.

patooties · 28/12/2025 16:15

HostaCentral · 28/12/2025 15:31

Locally I am LibDem, but they are pretty useless too. Well meaning idiots. However....

They are standing up for rural communities, farmers, protecting the green belt, and pushing for elections ie: democracy.

The number of planning applications that have gone in locally is eye watering. We are losing valuable farmed green belt. Once it's gone.its gone.

Labour will bankrupt the country, again. Plus ca change.

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Where would you like people to live?

Eggseleventwelve · 28/12/2025 16:18

Err what’s the alternative that would realistically get voted in ?

xanthomelana · 28/12/2025 16:20

purpleleotard2 · 28/12/2025 15:57

Yes
My reasoning is that Labour broadly works for the good of all whereas the rightwing parties are more concerned the self-centred individual.
Labour = us as a nation
Tories = What I have I want to keep and not share for the common good

I saw zero evidence of Labour = us as a nation in the last budget.

FrizzyFrizbee · 28/12/2025 16:23

I will not be voting for them, but I have no idea who I will vote for. As I understand it, this forum is traditionally left leaning. I may try tactical voting to get rid of our Labour MP but at the moment it is difficult to know who I would have to vote for to do just that.

From YouGov, the picture is as follows though polls can be wrong.

Voting intention: Ref 27%, Lab 19%, Con 18% (7-8 Dec 2025)

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53692-voting-intention-ref-27-lab-19-con-18-7-8-dec-2025

Voting intention: Ref 27%, Lab 19%, Con 18% (7-8 Dec 2025) | YouGov

Latest YouGov Westminster voting intention figures

https://yougov.co.uk/politics/articles/53692-voting-intention-ref-27-lab-19-con-18-7-8-dec-2025

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 28/12/2025 16:23

I think they are the worst government in my living history and nothing in my newsfeed convinces me otherwise. History will not be kind re. this UK chapter.

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 16:40

IHT has been increased to 2.5million per individual. It will have no impact on my families farm. It will impact very larger landowners and I don't see what that's such a bad thing.

Well that’s great for you. But depending where you are in the country £2.5m doesn’t buy much of a productive farm. It will very much not be ‘larger landowners’ and even when it is those, why is that not a bad thing? Estates who are cash poor but employ dozens of people and have dozens of tenants should be broken up and sold for corporate carbon capture should they?

The SFI wasn't removed - it was closed to.newapplications?

….which is exactly the same thing? It literally happened overnight with zero warning.

There is no change to wood burning stoves and no threat to ban

Thats just false.

Trail hunt ban - again see no problem here. We have very little to do with the hunt except that they use our land sometimes. It is hardly an accessible activity and even in our very rural area it is not a large part of anyone's life that I know. Hunting is a sport for rich people.

Trail hunting is very accessible in the countryside. £10 for children and free for foot followers. Literally all walks of life out, just look at all the Boxing Day videos. But then, you openly admit you have nothing to do with it so obviously you wouldn’t know that.

Animal housing - are you talking about the animal welfare bill? Literally no issue with that either

I can only conclude that you are one of those people who says on SM ‘I’m a farmer’ but really has a few hens and pet lambs on 10 acres and literally no skin in the game.

A few months ago I would have been more polite. But just nope now.

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Topseyt123 · 28/12/2025 16:40

I'd support them over the Tories and/or Reform any day.

I think the problem is that people want instant fixes and are mostly just too thick to understand that that isn't possible. It takes time and Rome wasn't built in a day.

People also want a fully reformed, recovered and working NHS but don't seem to appreciate that this will take time too (years to train the right people) and will cost money. A lot of money. Money that will have to come from more taxation, but they continue to want taxes cut and something for nothing.

To be fair though, politicians from all parties often turn into their own worst enemies over this come election time. All try to promise to fix the NHS or the education system without resorting to raising taxes. When in office, almost all find that they do have to raise taxes one way or another.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 16:41

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 28/12/2025 16:11

I can’t stand KS them and would never vote for them/ him he’s a wet puffy puddle of shit
like most of his cabinet

I dislike his very authoritarian way

dislike how he says one thing then will do the opposite . He has no strength at all .

along with the lifting of the 2 child benefit cap
attempting to bring in digital Id which was never in the manifesto at all as far as I can tell.

immigration

and slowly trying to get back into the EU by stealth.

Can’t stand him or labour and can’t wait till they fuck off

Back in the EU👏👏👏👏

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 16:44

I think the problem is that people want instant fixes and are just too thick to understand that that isn't possible. It takes time and Rome wasn't built in a day.
People also want a fully reformed, recovered and working NHS but don't seem to appreciate that this will cost money. A lot of money. Money that will have to come from more taxation, but they want taxes cut and something for nothing

People want great public services, low immigration and low taxes. This utopia doesn’t exist

Fluffyholeysocks · 28/12/2025 16:47

Perhaps all those thick people would prefer to see the economy growing too rather than resorting to ever increasing taxes.

Topseyt123 · 28/12/2025 16:47

ChrisMartinsKisskam · 28/12/2025 16:11

I can’t stand KS them and would never vote for them/ him he’s a wet puffy puddle of shit
like most of his cabinet

I dislike his very authoritarian way

dislike how he says one thing then will do the opposite . He has no strength at all .

along with the lifting of the 2 child benefit cap
attempting to bring in digital Id which was never in the manifesto at all as far as I can tell.

immigration

and slowly trying to get back into the EU by stealth.

Can’t stand him or labour and can’t wait till they fuck off

I'd vote for anyone who aligned us more closely with the EU. I'd like that, with a view to rejoining it in the future. Leaving was a ridiculous act of self harm.