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Does anyone still support this Labour government?

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PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 12:24

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

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itsgettingweird · 28/12/2025 15:03

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 13:19

I suppose they would cater for centrists but I don’t think I know anybody who is in the centre of the political spectrum anymore, only right and left.

I think i’m a centrist or at least I’m more right on some things & left on others. I feel politically homeless tbh.

I’m centrist.

Thats probably why I like this current government because they are centric rather than leftist and the more left policies they follow are the ones I support - poverty, education and health.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 15:04

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 14:56

Increasing minimum wage above inflation has hugely contributed to the employment market slump.

So should we carry on paying crap wages then?

Someone’s got to get the wages raised in this country. And it ain’t going to be the employers doing it and that’s a fact.

WildFlowerBees · 28/12/2025 15:06

I’m politically homeless and have been for some time. Cancelling local elections because they ‘aren’t ready’ is a terrible excuse and undemocratic. Labour knows they’ll lose so cancelled them. Kier is an odious little man who has no intention of making anyone’s lives better or our country better.

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Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:07

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 15:04

So should we carry on paying crap wages then?

Someone’s got to get the wages raised in this country. And it ain’t going to be the employers doing it and that’s a fact.

Some people genuinely do believe this, it’s not like we can look at the last 15 plus years and see the economic impact….

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 15:08

itsgettingweird · 28/12/2025 15:00

The Rwanda plan was billions of dollars£a for 200 people reciprocal agreement.

We have no evidence it would deter people as people knew once they had exchanged the 200 people they wouldn’t be sent offshore for processing.

Really!? Told you I wasn’t a Tory 🤣

Well in that case, a similar but better thought out, actual deterrent. Such as, no one entering on small boats will ever be granted asylum.

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Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:08

@itsgettingweird I agree but don’t like the backtracking.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 15:10

WildFlowerBees · 28/12/2025 15:06

I’m politically homeless and have been for some time. Cancelling local elections because they ‘aren’t ready’ is a terrible excuse and undemocratic. Labour knows they’ll lose so cancelled them. Kier is an odious little man who has no intention of making anyone’s lives better or our country better.

Apart from tenants
And those on minimum wage
And allowing 16 year olds the vote
And trying to clean up rivers
And limiting train fares
Erasmus
Rebuilding bridges with EU
Raising children out of poverty
Trying to build enough houses for the population
Trying to solve NHS nightmare
Reducing dental fees and paying dentists more
Teying to solve the problem of educating lots of doctors and then there being no employment for them.
Trying to work with EU to reduce food prices
Teying to work with EU to reduce power prices.
Increasing animal welfare
Introducing a modern curriculum.

How are they making lives worse? I’m really interested. Yeah what ‘an odious little man’🙄

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 15:11

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 15:04

So should we carry on paying crap wages then?

Someone’s got to get the wages raised in this country. And it ain’t going to be the employers doing it and that’s a fact.

The current minimum wage isn’t crap. It’s the cost of living that is the issue.
Employers can’t afford to continually raise wages, or employ workers who have the right to just go on the sick or sue them from literally shift one.
So they will do anything rather than employ more people - as we’ve seen by the latest job market figures.

It is completely backwards, ill thought out Labour thinking.

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Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:12

The biggest impact on cost of living is our distorted housing market and childcare costs.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 28/12/2025 15:13

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 15:11

The current minimum wage isn’t crap. It’s the cost of living that is the issue.
Employers can’t afford to continually raise wages, or employ workers who have the right to just go on the sick or sue them from literally shift one.
So they will do anything rather than employ more people - as we’ve seen by the latest job market figures.

It is completely backwards, ill thought out Labour thinking.

The minimum wage is crap. The clue is in the word ‘minimum’

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 15:14

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:01

The increase in minimum wage , employment legislation, changes to landlord and tenant law and animal welfare are all very important to me

Some see this as an attack on them though.

The issue is jobs. Some feel outside that impact but many don’t.

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:17

The issue isn’t just jobs. Low & stagnant wages and low growth are not a recent thing. We never recovered from 08 & the Tories just used high levels of immigration to mask it.

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:18

Some feel outside that impact but many don’t.

I don’t know anyone working under 50 who has not been impacted by stagnant wages….

JLou08 · 28/12/2025 15:18

I still support Labour. My local MP is Labour and does a great job securing funding to improve the area and supporting constituents. They are from the area and really passionate about the people here and local services.
I have a Reform councillor who does nothing at all. The council is led by Reform who have done nothing but sprout their disagreements with their legal responsibilities for Adult Social Care and SEND. That makes me really fearful for the most vulnerable in society if we were to have a Reform government.

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 15:19

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:18

Some feel outside that impact but many don’t.

I don’t know anyone working under 50 who has not been impacted by stagnant wages….

Do you know anyone struggling in the graduate market or losing a business or impacted by that?

skippy67 · 28/12/2025 15:24

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:18

Some feel outside that impact but many don’t.

I don’t know anyone working under 50 who has not been impacted by stagnant wages….

Your world is not THE World. It really winds me up when people say "I don't know anyone who..." as if that relevant to the wider debate. Maybe look outside your social circle occasionally. You might learn something.

Friendlygingercat · 28/12/2025 15:26

Ive been a Tory voter all my life. Small state and anti benefits. Very much to the right of the party. I voted Reform in the last election. I dont agree with all their policies but I do with their hard line on immigration and cutting down on benefits. I would never have voted Labour in a month of sundays regardless of who the leader was. Taxing working people to pay for the feckless and johhny foreigner is never going to win my vote, nor are all these expensive green schemes and woke tomfoolery.

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:27

Yes, my point was definitely to say that my world was the world. I mean I was referring to the UK for one 😆

Keep reading & you might learn something although something tells me I’m not that first who has wished that for you!

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:27

@EasternStandard I don’t dare answer that & give you my experience of the world!

RightSheSaid · 28/12/2025 15:30

Honestly, I don't really know what the alternative is. I won't vote Conservative. I won't vote Liberal Democrats because they did a coalition with Conservative. Id vote for Corbyn at the next election if that's an option.

HostaCentral · 28/12/2025 15:31

Locally I am LibDem, but they are pretty useless too. Well meaning idiots. However....

They are standing up for rural communities, farmers, protecting the green belt, and pushing for elections ie: democracy.

The number of planning applications that have gone in locally is eye watering. We are losing valuable farmed green belt. Once it's gone.its gone.

Labour will bankrupt the country, again. Plus ca change.

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 15:33

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:27

@EasternStandard I don’t dare answer that & give you my experience of the world!

I don’t mind. Ik people are in different groups and are informed by people they know. Hence some loathing Labour and others not.

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:41

I do know young people struggling to find work both students and post graduates. However this isn’t just a 2025 issue so whilst I acknowledge that wage increases will have had an impact I don’t believe if minimum wage hadn’t increased that there wouldn’t be a problem. Automation has shrunk entry level roles, retail in general has declined post covid and employers are more demanding re hours, work pattern & experience.
I know business owners impacted by covid and Brexit who have closed shop or relocated. The only business owners I know who have shut up shop so to speak in the last 18 months are landlords who have a few properties and have sold them all off.

Clockyclockz · 28/12/2025 15:44

The two people I know with aesthetic based businesses have seen tremendous growth in the last few years (one is a GP who now works just the minimum session to be a GP and focuses on aesthetics). That seems to be a growing market.

DramaticSkies · 28/12/2025 15:45

Yes I still support them, and my reasons are my own.