Does anyone still support this Labour government?

[PutTheCakeDOWN]

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

Again, the nicknames for individual politicians is across the board and yes I've seen these.

Calling an entire political party something in an attempt to sully everyone associated with it is different. This is something that I haven't seen (and I would have noticed and reported deform) towards the other parties. It's lazy, disingenuous and tells me the user is not open to honest debate as they hold an entrenched position.

I feel it's groundhog day.

What made you think the post was directed at you? But agree on last part, you posted this before and people have already responded.

That's a healthy balance sheet at this stage in the cycle. Thanks for sharing.

I voted Labour but their problem seems to be (1) terrible messaging, (2) u-turning relentlessly because of PLP, and (3) no real clue what they stand for.

These are fixable, but time is running out for them.

I agree that nicknames are unhelpful. It reminds me of Trump adding some random derogatory adjective before every opponent's name because he can't debate policy.

My point was directed at those planning to vote Reform and with that comes the sale of the NHS and transformation to a private healthcare system.
Farage may advocate getting rid of VAT on school fees but your family will pay huge amounts in insurance and will increase every year.

Google Resolute 1850, now called Centre for a Better Britain, a think tank that Reform is connected to.

Couldn't agree more to your post @PutTheCakeDOWN I can't believe how much they are destroying us.

I'm on my holidays at the moment in far lands full of Canadians / Americans and they can't believe what the UK has become

People keep talking about ‘relentless’ u turns but I really don’t know what they mean. It’s not a u turn to tweak a policy in response to feedback. I also don’t think the messaging is bad, I think the media aren’t reporting the good and are leaning very heavily on the bad. Labour has always had to deal with hostile media but I’ve never seen anything like this - if there’s nothing bad they just make stuff up, like they did before both budgets. They then blamed labour for the effects of their lies. It’s mad.

What has UK ‘become’ please?
Americans in particular are being fed lies about the uk all the time, Canada too from questions I see on SM, but I think that’s picking up on US lies rather than their own media doing it. Stuff that Farage echoes, like his nonsense about people being scared to wear watches and jewellery in the West End of London after 10pm.

I agree in principle about u turns. Generally, governments get a hard time for responding to feedback. Generally, that's stupid. They can't win: they get a kicking for going ahead or a kicking for changing course. But in this case, it feels like the cabinet make a decision, the backbenchers kick off, and sooner or later (usually later) it's in the bin. There's no cohesive plan, no strategy, just lurching between political crises instead of governing. I have no faith in any announcement now because it feels like we need to wait for the follow up, actually announcement.

Messaging vs reporting is a fair challenge, but even left leaning press doesn't seem to have much to say about Labour. It's frustrating because there's a lot to shout about if they'd stop self-sabotaging

I only remember that happening with welfare reform, not over and over.

What do they think the UK has become?

Do I still support this Labour government?

It's a good question. I still support the idea of a Labour government, but the current incumbents - no.

I foolishly believed they'd spent their 14 years in opposition formulating policies, paying attention to what the Conservative governments were doing, seeing what worked and what didn't, working out what was needed to get us from where we were to where we wanted to be - basically, I thought they were doing their job.

Instead, once they were elected (and let's face it, they were a shoo-in) it was like watching rabbits caught in the headlights. No plans, no policies, no idea of what to do. Those 14 years had been wasted on in-fighting and reflexively booing the other parties.

And what's the alternative? None.

No plans? And yet they are getting through all the plans in the manifesto.
https://pledgeprogress.co.uk

Right, so not actually related to my post you quoted.

‘Surging employment costs under Labour have punched the biggest hole in corporate profits in more than four decades.’

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2026/01/01/profitability-falls-lowest-level-since-1982-labour/?WT.mc_id=tmgoff_fb_photo_lowest-level-since-1982-labour/

I do.

I don't think they're the best government we've ever had. I do think they're miles better than the options available at this time. They inherited a godawful mess and are doing reasonably sensible things to rebalance things. We're also in the midst of a growing threat situation, which they have to manage as best they can from a starting point of no defence to speak of.

They've got a shit job and I think they're doing okay. They could do with improving their PR.

It’s not the PR they’ve got to fix it’s the economic indicators like the one posted just before you.

They have enough lines and soundbites to last them a lifetime, they need better outcomes.

So - what do we do? Let big business pay poverty wages that the tax payer has to top up?

Tbf Labour have gone for small to medium businesses even more, which is bad for jobs and graduates.

No. They aren’t the only two options.

You and your ilk need to realise that the economy and country runs on profitable business. Punish businesses and you punish everyone.
You can take from the rich to give to the poor, but take too much and the rich will either stop bothering to make more - what’s the point? - or leave.

The poor lose out.

Labour are SO short sighted. It’s like a government run by student activists.

It would help enormously if they modelled the effect any change they were considering, before implementing the change. It always seems to come as a surprise to them that if they do X, Y will inevitably follow.

Yes this! They don’t seem able to think past their next sentence.

That takes economic understanding and insight over modelling, which is the issue for them.

LOL. I see one of their pledges was to "resolve the Junior doctors strikes". They think that they achieved that in September 2024 so they have ticked it off the list.
Doctors are still striking but they are called Resident doctors now so, of course, that's an entirely different pledge.
I'll give it to Starmer, he is a master of weasel words.

Anyone who refers to my ‘ilk’ isn’t worth considering to be honest.