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Does anyone still support this Labour government?

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PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 12:24

I know NO ONE in real life who still sticks up for them (apart from my mother, and she would support Labour even if KS owned up to creating Covid). Apart from that, all quiet on the western front.

I haven’t seen any support on here, or SM for weeks now.

Is it my algorithm bubble, or are people genuinely disappointed with them? I don’t think it can be the algorithms though, as until a few weeks ago there were still words of support popping up.

For full disclosure I think this government is a total shitshow intent on dismantling British culture, and taxing the private sector to death in order to pay for the public sector. With no long term plan once the private sector is squeezed totally dry. I am BEYOND disappointed with them.

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itsgettingweird · 28/12/2025 19:18

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Your glue’s a good’un 🤣

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 28/12/2025 19:19

itsgettingweird · 28/12/2025 19:18

Your glue’s a good’un 🤣

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EmeraldRoulette · 28/12/2025 19:24

cardibach · 28/12/2025 19:01

The Time gap allowed farmers to succession plan.
Edit: how did farms manage before the exemption came in? It’s within living memory.

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The exemption was in place from 1992 till 2024 wasn't it? Yes 1992 is living memory depending on your age,but that doesn't change all of the increase in costs in the interim 32 years. If you're saying people managed before 1992, yes they did, but there were other reliefs available prior to 1992.

Happy to be corrected. I do not claim to be an expert on farmers or inheritance tax, if I'm
missing something, please say.

in terms of a time gap and succession planning, that only works if you've got some way to avoid it.

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harrassedmum · 28/12/2025 19:25

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 12:53

It's always "done nothing ' with the small boat crossings. What exactly do people want to see happen?

The Rwanda plan would have deterred all criminals and chancers, and seen boats stopped overnight.

And no, im not a Tory. I’m also now party less.

The Rwanda plan only had limited spaces so even if it had been deemed legal it certainly wouldn’t have stopped the boats

Lonelycrab · 28/12/2025 19:30

The Rwanda plan was obviously a pile of old bollocks to anyone who actually read the small print

And yet this govt seems to have reduced immigration figures by 2/3 quietly, from 650k to 200k in the meantime…

MaryBaileysChristmas · 28/12/2025 19:35

Lisanne55 · 28/12/2025 19:13

Why? What do you mean 'socialist dystopia??

This person has clearly lost it.

Joeninety · 28/12/2025 19:36

Sorry, but I don't consider this latest communist regime to be even a real government. They should be ignored at every opportunity imo.

Lonelycrab · 28/12/2025 19:36

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Does anyone still support this Labour government?
cardibach · 28/12/2025 19:37

Joeninety · 28/12/2025 19:36

Sorry, but I don't consider this latest communist regime to be even a real government. They should be ignored at every opportunity imo.

Communist? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
you just reveal you lack of political knowledge. They are barely left of centre, never mind communist.

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 19:38

And yet this govt seems to have reduced immigration figures by 2/3 quietly, from 650k to 200k in the meantime…

Which for the year ending June 2025, and is grudgingly acknowledged, even by their own ministers, due to be down to policies imposed by the previous government…which is probably why they are being so ‘quiet’ about it!

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EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 19:40

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 19:38

And yet this govt seems to have reduced immigration figures by 2/3 quietly, from 650k to 200k in the meantime…

Which for the year ending June 2025, and is grudgingly acknowledged, even by their own ministers, due to be down to policies imposed by the previous government…which is probably why they are being so ‘quiet’ about it!

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True. Not much about the success of smash the gangs or one in one out either. ‘Game changing’ as they were.

IDontHateRainbows · 28/12/2025 19:43

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 13:44

How long have you got??

IHT is a huge one which will have a massive impact on everyone. As tenant farmers, when our landlord passes on to the next generation it will probably mean them having to sell. We can’t buy it, so that’s probably us out of farming. There’s no security in our futures anymore.

One of the first things they did was to cancel the SFI grant scheme instantly with no warning. This has had a huge impact on not only farms, but the rural UK businesses who carried out the work. It was a proper ‘rug from under the feet’ moment.

Threatening to ban log burners.

The TRAIL hunt ban - a legal activity which provides jobs, income and most importantly, the opportunity and framework for farmers to meet every weekend over the dark winter months.

Setting incredibly costly animal housing and management targets, whilst still allowing meat from places like Thailand with dreadful animal welfare practices to come in and undercut us.

I could go on, and Iwill later when I get chance.

Why can't you rent land as tenant farmers from the new landlord?

Ncforthis2244 · 28/12/2025 19:52

boys3 · 28/12/2025 17:27

9 voters did at this Cornwall Council by-election held just before Christmas. Though the other 99.3% who voted expressed a different view.
https://www.cornwall.gov.uk/media/lgrehusj/declaration-of-result-of-poll-st-columb-minor-colan-electoral-division-18-december-2025-1.pdf

Ah yes, good old Heinz Wolfgang, the most British of British people. St Columb is known for being a deprived shit hole full of thickos so 🤷‍♂️

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 19:52

IDontHateRainbows · 28/12/2025 19:43

Why can't you rent land as tenant farmers from the new landlord?

What a daft thing to say.
You ask them, yeah?

Hopefully this will be repealed before it’s an issue for us but you never know.

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Youmeanyouvelostyourkey · 28/12/2025 19:57

If I was in the public sector, there would be things to be happy about. However, I’m in private sector and honestly, am not seeing any benefits. Perhaps if they got senior party members who aren’t having to constantly apologise for something they “didn’t realise was wrong” or giving people with relevant experience the key jobs, things might be better. Can’t forgive Rachel Reeves for that farce of a budget. Still can’t work out what hell she thought she was doing, with that pre budget speech. She should have been calming the markets, not making them even worse. Get rid or her and Kier and they may just be a bit more electable. And no, I, not a Tory flag flyer.

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 19:59

IDontHateRainbows · 28/12/2025 19:43

Why can't you rent land as tenant farmers from the new landlord?

In fact no. I will answer properly.

A land rich family who have owned an estate for generations have no mortgage, but do have running costs and are generally not cash rich. They generally live in a big house, and let several farms at rates which mean the tenants can make a living. It is part of a larger community, and it works. The estate may be worth £10m, but this is meaningless because it’s not money you can spend or have ever spent.

With IHT to pay on the whole, a large chunk would need to be sold.

The buyer would have a mortgage. The buyer would either be buying a farm because they want a farm to live on, or more likely at the moment because they’re a large corporate company wanting to rewild the productive farmland and use to offset their carbon.

Once these farms are lost, they will never be as they were again. What Labour are doing the countryside is HUGE and devastating. We are just normal people, having our culture and surroundings dismantled.

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Lonelycrab · 28/12/2025 20:00

Normal people with a 10m estate

Lostsoultrip · 28/12/2025 20:02

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 19:38

And yet this govt seems to have reduced immigration figures by 2/3 quietly, from 650k to 200k in the meantime…

Which for the year ending June 2025, and is grudgingly acknowledged, even by their own ministers, due to be down to policies imposed by the previous government…which is probably why they are being so ‘quiet’ about it!

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Any idiot can write a policy. The hard work is doing the actual work in seeing it through.

scalt · 28/12/2025 20:06

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 17:53

Labour are constantly doing soundbites, more money in your pocket and smash the gangs or whatever. I’m not sure why people are fine with that. Plus you’ll likely get digital ID before they’re out.

Who says digital ID is a Labour thing? The Tories would totally have introduced it, it if suited them and their rich mates. Under the Tories we very nearly got vaccine passports: extremely similar to digital ID.

PutTheCakeDOWN · 28/12/2025 20:09

Lonelycrab · 28/12/2025 20:00

Normal people with a 10m estate

Tell me you didn’t read the post without telling me 🙄

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SoftBalletShoes · 28/12/2025 20:11

I do. I am SO SO pleased that they have got rid of the cruel Tory 2-child benefit cap. I like Starmer a lot.

I wouldn't expect most on her to agree with me, though. Mumsnet skews pretty conservative.

EasternStandard · 28/12/2025 20:21

scalt · 28/12/2025 20:06

Who says digital ID is a Labour thing? The Tories would totally have introduced it, it if suited them and their rich mates. Under the Tories we very nearly got vaccine passports: extremely similar to digital ID.

Of course it’s a Starmer thing. The other parties were against. It’s surprising when people against digital ID still back Labour.

speakingofart · 28/12/2025 20:22

Me! I think they’re going slower than I’d like but I’m supportive of what they are trying to do and where we’re going!

pinotnow · 28/12/2025 20:23

I'm disappointed by some of the U turns, frustrated by the poor comms they seem to have and sometimes I feel they are trying too hard to appeal to Reform voters, but, yes, overall I support them and if there was an election tomorrow I would vote for them again. The press is so hostile towards them and the vitriol some display is out of all proportion to anything they have done, especially when compared to the last government. And as for the legacy they inherited...fuck...

Raven08 · 28/12/2025 20:26

Yes.
I remember the previous 14 years.

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