Bondi beach mass shooting

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Just horrendous. There was a big Jewish gathering on the beach. Jewish festival goers targeted by two gunmen. At least ten people dead according to police.

It really can't be explained "in a nutshell". That would reduce a very complicated geo-political situation to something meaningless.
The best thing to do is to read up on it, with respected authors.
If you have a look at Amazon, there's a fantastic choice. You can tell if/when there is inherent bias.

Watching Sky News and Itai Galmudy is being interviewed outside Australia House where a vigil is being held.

Strong words from him which I agree with completely.

It's 2025 and we still have religion: a stone age fairytale used by cults to control people through hate and division. I'm beyond fed up with all the conflicts and atrocities that come with religion.

Let me repeat myself, it seems you haven't understood.
Westerners expelled Jews out of Europe and killed 6 millions of them.
It would appear that it is yourselves that have always had an issue.

This point is very confusing as Jews aren’t even allowed to live in the majority of Arab countries so I don’t understand what this means. There are many, many people living in Israel who are not Jewish. Including political leaders. There are certainly no Jewish political leaders in Saudi Arabia or Egypt or Jordan or or or…

but anyway - none of this is the point. People keep conflating Israel and Jewish as if all Muslims are responsible for the horrors in Afghanistan or all Christian’s are responsible for Trump or Boris etc etc. There’s no reason Israel or Palestine should even be discussed every single time someone attacks Jews somewhere else in the world.

I was at Bondi 2weeks ago and am stunned that this atrocity has happened there . The most unlikeliest place you could imagine. Desperately sad for everyone involved and for Australia .

OK, please outline the rights Jews have in Arab countries then. I assume it's a beacon of parity, fairness and freedom to practise their Jewish faith and live as they wish, right?

What’s the suitcase in the hall? I’ve never heard of that, but it doesn’t sound good. 😢

Always being ready to leave.

That.

When I lived in Melbourne we often had Shabbat dinner with members of extended family and the wider community, many of whom had been in concentration camps. I recall the father of a friend who was on the kinder transports and then came to Oz telling us that the last memory of his mother was her tucking a sandwich into his pocket and telling him to always have a sandwich with him in case he had to flee again.

We asked him 'do you have a sandwich now?' and he reached into the inner pocket of his jacket and pulled out a sandwich.

One thing you can’t accuse President Trump of is antisemitism but I imagine people will try.

The west has a long, bloody and shameful history of antisemitism.
What I don’t understand is why you are talking as if Muslim countries don’t.

😭

Heartbreaking.

We shouldn’t have to live like this.

I'm an atheist but it can't all be blamed on religion. Humans are the most violent species on the planet and have been for thousands and thousands of years. We don't just become violent and wage wars over religion. Any excuse will do.

I am so sorry.

And the whataboutery on this thread is beyond shameful.

Hard agree.

Devastatingly sad. Jews have spoken out for a while now about how they aren’t feeling safe. Attack in Manchester, now Australia. I don’t see it ending there either

My mother always said we should have more than one passport just in case. And we all do. Most Jewish people I know have a vague escape plan - usually a very illogical one based on some story in their family.

That is heartbreaking 🌹

Whataboutery alert.
There are small Jewish communities in North African Muslim countries, Eg Morocco, Tunisia, Algeria, but I don't think that's the point of your question.
I'd love for Jews and Muslims to be able to live in peace across the Middle East, and Christians too. I don't see the issue with stating the truth that Arabs don't have the same rights in reality as Jews do, as it happens to be true.

I remember doing the Arab/Isreali conflict as a GCSE history topic 17 years ago. It's so depressing to think about the violence and suffering just continuing on and on and now a terrorist attack in Australia today.

Just out of interest, how do you feel about the lack of religious freedom in Saudi Arabia?

Well done for trying to get a grip on it. Have a look at some Alevel textbooks- they explain the broad outlines from a non-biased point of view at a level that an intelligent beginner can grasp.

Too many people on this thread who are almost trying to justify the murders in Australia, they should be ashamed of themselves.
When I was very young, 1950s/early 1960s there were lots of WW2 films on TV and Dad watched them all, which mant we saw a lot too. I recall one naval film where a German battleship had been torpedoed and 'our' ships were picking up survivors, I said to Dad they should leave all the 'baddies' to drown and he went ape at me, they were someone's son, father, huband wtc and deserved not to die.