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Bondi beach mass shooting

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habin · 14/12/2025 10:00

Just horrendous. There was a big Jewish gathering on the beach. Jewish festival goers targeted by two gunmen. At least ten people dead according to police.

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RescueMeFromThisSilliness · 14/12/2025 14:03

SuePerfluous · 14/12/2025 10:08

That brave man who took the gun!

What a terrible day, I too have no words.

He deserves a Knighthood for disarming that gunman. What courage.

SpaceRaccoon · 14/12/2025 14:06

NewmumOct · 14/12/2025 13:23

Hey Mumnset will you delete this comment or is it okay because its hate speech directed towards muslims

It's not though. In fact countries like Saudi and the UAE take great pains to crack down on radical Islam, for example banning the Muslim Brotherhood, and have often criticised the West for not doing the same.

shanononon · 14/12/2025 14:11

MrsLizzieDarcy · 14/12/2025 13:51

I really am scared for the future of western society. I think we're on the verge of something truly awful.

Thats a bit alarmist?

quantumbutterfly · 14/12/2025 14:12

sunshinestar1986 · 14/12/2025 12:51

And yet it was westerners who kicked the jews out of Europe after genociding them.
So why would it be an Islamic issue?

Why indeed, and yet in the UK, parliamentary representatives were elected by their Muslim majority constituents (who seem to mostly hail from Pakistan) by taking a stance on Gaza. Perhaps it started when Yarrafat escaped Lebanon by calling for help from the ummah, perhaps it leads back to the pan Arab movement of the early 20th C in the birthplace of the faith.

Anyone who knows the community, knows many with that stance.

Namechangesecretsignature · 14/12/2025 14:15

MeouwKing · 14/12/2025 10:38

Australia has strict gun laws. How did they get the guns?

This is naive. England has gun laws. They’re still easily accessible.

VillaDiodati · 14/12/2025 14:15

NewmumOct · 14/12/2025 13:23

Hey Mumnset will you delete this comment or is it okay because its hate speech directed towards muslims

No,it's directed against radical Islam,there's a huge difference as you well know. I live in a Muslim country in the ME and I can tell you Radical Islam is not tolerated here either.

stomachamelon · 14/12/2025 14:16

He has been named and he is Muslim. Lives locally and owns a fruit shop. He is a hero x

ChessorBuckaroo · 14/12/2025 14:18

itsnotfairisit · 14/12/2025 13:32

That was an attack inside the borders of the Jewish state of Israel. The government of Israel took action. What would our government had done following a similar raid in its citizens? Who knows? And I’m happy to debate the rights or wrongs of Israel’s actions.
But don’t make the rookie error of conflating the actions of a state with the (non) actions of millions of Jews who live peacefully throughout the world.
Astonished that you cannot tell the diffwrwnce. But then that’s the problem isn’t it?

"The Jewish state of Israel"

Echoes of "Northern Ireland, a Protestant state for a Protestant people"

We had civil rights marches in NI in the 1960s as one group of people, a Protestant people (descendants of the Ulster plantation, English and Scots who came over in the 1600s and took lands from the Native Irish people here) were favoured over Catholics in all walks of life, with history nigh on repeating itself in Palestine/Israel where one group of people, a Jewish people, started to come over in the early 1900s via the Balfour declaration in the British House of Commons and, via state policies, have seen them favoured over another group of people, the Native Palestinian people.

When you make one group less than, that leads to what happened to the Native Americans ("triumph of the whites over the savages" as those two statues that stood outside the US Capitol building for over a century proudly proclaimed before their removal in the 1950s), the Aboriginal Australians (whose children were taken from their parents so they could mix in with the whites and gradually be eradicated), the Jews in Nazi Germany (described as "untermensch", translated as underman or subhuman, before six million were eradicated), and so on.

All violence against innocent people is abhorrent, as this attack was today, as was the circa 70 thousand killed in Gaza, as was those killed in the 7 October music festival, as was the Sabra and Shatila massacre in '82, and further back we go there. I lived through similar here (albeit in a much smaller scale), with two sides fighting each other.

It's a neverending series of needless bloodshed, all over the world, and often because each side in whatever particular conflict thinks they are in the right.

LakieLady · 14/12/2025 14:19

BackToLurk · 14/12/2025 13:15

It’s part of the Hamas constitution. Hamas, the group who were elected by the people of Gaza.

... in 2006 or '07.

As there hasn't been an election in Gaza since then, we have no way of knowing if the people of Gaza would have continued supporting Hamas for the almost two decades since then.

BlushingBrightly · 14/12/2025 14:20

pforpig · 14/12/2025 13:42

Are you forgetting g the Jewish women in America that tried to drown a Muslim child

Eh? Link?

Plus do tell us about all the radical Jewish groups who've gone out to shoot at Muslims celebrating Eid. I'll wait.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/12/2025 14:20

Weekly marches in London where people are allowed to glorify terrorism and call for 'globalising the Intifada' or 'intifada revolution' should be banned

I have to agree, @TheTamerShrew - and on the whole I prefer not to ban things but would rather see these people for what they are

Unfortunately though it's all gone too far, with too many on such marches unable to control their own hatred, leading to that hatred spreading and even becoming normalised among some

HoneyParsnipSoup · 14/12/2025 14:22

SpaceRaccoon · 14/12/2025 14:06

It's not though. In fact countries like Saudi and the UAE take great pains to crack down on radical Islam, for example banning the Muslim Brotherhood, and have often criticised the West for not doing the same.

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Radical Islam/Islamism has killed far more Muslims than have been killed by Western military interventions, and far more Muslims than Westerners.

habin · 14/12/2025 14:22

HoneyParsnipSoup · 14/12/2025 13:41

What do they not understand about this?! It’s exasperating

they understand it. The inconvenient truth is something they prefer to ignore.

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Comedycook · 14/12/2025 14:24

The free palestine movement has become utterly unhinged ..total lunacy. As if it's the only conflict in the world. Makes me sick.

All the pathetic saucepan bangers have helped to contribute to Jews being increasingly unsafe across the world. Shameful

HoneyParsnipSoup · 14/12/2025 14:24

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/12/2025 14:20

Weekly marches in London where people are allowed to glorify terrorism and call for 'globalising the Intifada' or 'intifada revolution' should be banned

I have to agree, @TheTamerShrew - and on the whole I prefer not to ban things but would rather see these people for what they are

Unfortunately though it's all gone too far, with too many on such marches unable to control their own hatred, leading to that hatred spreading and even becoming normalised among some

They don’t even realise what they’re doing is hatred any more, they’re so ‘the end justifies the means’ that this slaying will be seen as an incidental inevitability in achieving their goal, which is apparently to make the entire world almost mentally ill at the injustice of Gaza.

Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 14/12/2025 14:24

It’s just unimaginable horror. I hate what humans can do to each other.

habin · 14/12/2025 14:26

Another2Cats · 14/12/2025 13:45

Did you ever go on any marches or demonstrations and chant "From the river to the sea..." or "Globalise the Intifada"?

If you did, then what you called for is starting to happen.

That you cannot see the link between your calls to "globalise the Intifada" and what happened today is rather quite worrying.

This.
They've got blood on their hands.

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BackToLurk · 14/12/2025 14:26

LakieLady · 14/12/2025 14:19

... in 2006 or '07.

As there hasn't been an election in Gaza since then, we have no way of knowing if the people of Gaza would have continued supporting Hamas for the almost two decades since then.

Weirdly no big marches through London, or anywhere else, calling for elections in Gaza. I guess the 'Palestinian cause' has quite a narrow focus.

stomachamelon · 14/12/2025 14:27

BadgernTheGarden · 14/12/2025 13:26

What's been happening in Gaza then? That looked pretty violent to me.

I am aghast that we seem to have moved no further on this being ‘ok’.
People have been targeted and murdered today. On another continent.
Being an apologist today is just not ok.

stomachamelon · 14/12/2025 14:28

@habinthe marches in Australia and examples of unchecked antisemitism have been just as bad

Comedycook · 14/12/2025 14:29

BadgernTheGarden · 14/12/2025 13:26

What's been happening in Gaza then? That looked pretty violent to me.

It's a war.

It wouldn't have started if it wasn't for October 7....that was a pretty violent event wouldn't you say?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 14/12/2025 14:30

As there hasn't been an election in Gaza since (2006/7), we have no way of knowing if the people of Gaza would have continued supporting Hamas for the almost two decades since then

I'm afraid this isn't true, @LakieLady; the latest PCPSR polling was carried out less than 2 months ago, and among much else resulted in this:

"For the sixth time since October 7, 2023, we asked respondents from the West Bank and the Gaza Strip what they thought of Hamas' decision to launch the October 7 attack, whether it was correct or incorrect: 53% compared to 50%, in May 2025, and 54% in September 2024, and 67% in June 2024, and 71% in March 2024, said it was the right decision. The increase in this poll came from the Gaza Strip, where it stands today at 44%, an increase of 7 percentage points, and 59% in the West Bank, compared to an identical percentage in May 2025"

https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/1000

Press Release: Public Opinion Poll No (96) | PCPSR

These are the results of the latest poll conducted by PCPSR-Polling and Survey Research in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip between 22-25 October 2025. The immediate period prior to the poll witnessed the announcement of the Trump Plan at the end of Se...

https://www.pcpsr.org/en/node/1000

Teddleshon1 · 14/12/2025 14:33

@Puzzledandpissedoff not sure we need a poll ; we’ve all seen the videos of mass cheering in the streets as the broken bodies of victims of October 7 were paraded and heard the tape recordings of the perpetrators gleefully telling their families how many Jews they had slaughtered.

habin · 14/12/2025 14:35

I’ve seen numerous threads on mumsnet since October 7th, trying to argue that Hamas are hated by innocent Palestinians. it’s such provable bullshit, but useful idiots for their cause love to believe it.

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Thedevilhasfinallycaughtupwithhim · 14/12/2025 14:35

habin · 14/12/2025 14:26

This.
They've got blood on their hands.

I was absolutely jumped on in another thread for questioning what people think “from the river to the sea” actually means. What the actual outcome this chant is calling for.

They tried to tell me I was a terrible human being for not believing it was simply for the two states to live peacefully side by side.

I found their wilful ignorance chilling.

Those poor families.

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