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Labour isn't working - Thread 23

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TheNuthatch · 03/12/2025 14:58

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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EasternStandard · 18/12/2025 12:41

Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 12:34

That’s why we froze rail fares and prescription charges, and will be cutting 150 from the average energy bill next year.
Reeves

Oh do FRO, Reeves - the above is meaningless when the economy is stagnating, unemployment is rising, SME’s are going under, and people are genuinely worried about their finances.

You complete and utter moron.

Meanwhile gilt yields are spiking - 10 year up 0.65%

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Bloody Labour soundbites. They really are fools.

marshmallowmix · 18/12/2025 12:43

The UK right now is so depressing there isn't any joy at the moment, most peole feel worn down.
Every which way Labour have destroyed more and more aspects of life.
Farmers, pubs, small businesses none can survive.
Taxes sky high and less and less public services, they just cancelled the tram system in Leeds.
The NI increases need to be scrapped and the NMW does not work especially for youngsters no one will employ them...they are priced out combined with the workers rights bill....just why?
It feels as if they want to utterly decimate the UK from every angle.
Not to mention the immigration issues - that is a whole other level of problems.
Not going to say anything on that topic as I was suspended for saying how I felt about the issues this is bringing in my area.

TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 13:19

Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 12:34

That’s why we froze rail fares and prescription charges, and will be cutting 150 from the average energy bill next year.
Reeves

Oh do FRO, Reeves - the above is meaningless when the economy is stagnating, unemployment is rising, SME’s are going under, and people are genuinely worried about their finances.

You complete and utter moron.

Meanwhile gilt yields are spiking - 10 year up 0.65%

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Ffs. Inflation and rates falling because of economic slowdown, and Reeves is celebrating prescription charges. Moron.

5 members of the MPC voted to cut, 4 voted to hold at 4%. The only member to change their position was Bailey. He joined the doves. 🧐

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TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 13:21

marshmallowmix · 18/12/2025 12:43

The UK right now is so depressing there isn't any joy at the moment, most peole feel worn down.
Every which way Labour have destroyed more and more aspects of life.
Farmers, pubs, small businesses none can survive.
Taxes sky high and less and less public services, they just cancelled the tram system in Leeds.
The NI increases need to be scrapped and the NMW does not work especially for youngsters no one will employ them...they are priced out combined with the workers rights bill....just why?
It feels as if they want to utterly decimate the UK from every angle.
Not to mention the immigration issues - that is a whole other level of problems.
Not going to say anything on that topic as I was suspended for saying how I felt about the issues this is bringing in my area.

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Yep, this with bells on.

Are the cancelled trams in the chancellor's constituency?

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TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 13:26

EasternStandard · 18/12/2025 12:41

Bloody Labour soundbites. They really are fools.

Pop the bubbly 🍾

We have soggy toast breakfast clubs, and prescriptions are staying at the same price as they were before. Whoop de fucking do.

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marshmallowmix · 18/12/2025 13:35

Leeds trams have been delayed until the late 2030's so never going to happen.

Yep Rachel Reeves constituency is in Leeds, Leeds West and Pudsey.

They have money to spend on the Erasmus scheme though, according to the Telegraph today it will cost £8billion to rejoin this scheme.

Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 13:40

TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 13:26

Pop the bubbly 🍾

We have soggy toast breakfast clubs, and prescriptions are staying at the same price as they were before. Whoop de fucking do.

Exactly, what a shitty, dystopian world Labour have imposed upon us.

They came in talking to country down - on that, they have delivered.

DenizenOfAisleOfShame · 18/12/2025 13:43

So Reeves takes credit for the interest rate cut - “there’s more to do”. But Labour says that rising unemployment is all the fault of the Tories.

What a bunch of clowns.

You’d have to be brain dead to have faith in Reeves and Starmer.

TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 14:36

Festive Find Out Now poll 17th December.

Reform - 33 (+3)
Cons - 18 (-)
Greens - 17 (-1)
Labour - 14 (-)
Lib Dem - 11 (-1)

Labour isn't working - Thread 23
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Upstartled · 18/12/2025 14:43

A three point gain over a week is significant. I can't think of anything Reform have done this week to make that gain.

TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 14:55

The Guardian's witch hunt appears to have made Farage even more popular. Whodathunkit.

They haven't learned a thing from Trump.

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Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 14:56

Upstartled · 18/12/2025 14:43

A three point gain over a week is significant. I can't think of anything Reform have done this week to make that gain.

I suspect simply because their party doesn’t begin with an L, and end with an R.

Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 14:57

TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 14:55

The Guardian's witch hunt appears to have made Farage even more popular. Whodathunkit.

They haven't learned a thing from Trump.

100%

The left truly are increasingly despised.

hamstersarse · 18/12/2025 17:51

TheNuthatch · 18/12/2025 14:55

The Guardian's witch hunt appears to have made Farage even more popular. Whodathunkit.

They haven't learned a thing from Trump.

I did wonder about the timing of their racist accusations against Farage whether it would embolden support.

If anyone saw the interview Piers Morgan did with Nick Fuentes last week, it really highlighted how people just don’t care about being called a racist anymore especially young folk, such is its over use.

I’d imagine every person who wants to vote reform has been called a racist, so it’s totally meaningless.

I saw today they are going to ‘tackle misogyny’ in young men too. I don’t think they have any clue whatsoever about how young men feel about the constant accusations of being misogynists. It’s just another nail in their coffin and they may well be horrified if they do lower the voting age that the young men whose votes they are counting on won’t vote for them for love nor money

The words echo chamber and delusion barely cover how out of touch they are

redwinecheeseandothersnacks · 18/12/2025 19:32

Soggy toast breakfast clubs - love it!

justasking111 · 18/12/2025 19:34

hamstersarse · 18/12/2025 17:51

I did wonder about the timing of their racist accusations against Farage whether it would embolden support.

If anyone saw the interview Piers Morgan did with Nick Fuentes last week, it really highlighted how people just don’t care about being called a racist anymore especially young folk, such is its over use.

I’d imagine every person who wants to vote reform has been called a racist, so it’s totally meaningless.

I saw today they are going to ‘tackle misogyny’ in young men too. I don’t think they have any clue whatsoever about how young men feel about the constant accusations of being misogynists. It’s just another nail in their coffin and they may well be horrified if they do lower the voting age that the young men whose votes they are counting on won’t vote for them for love nor money

The words echo chamber and delusion barely cover how out of touch they are

Yeah the Andrew Tate type accusations thrown at young men has had it's day. The media obsession with it palled very fast.

redange · 18/12/2025 20:04

To think my 2 DD's and my DS are among the target audience for Labour' agenda with votes at 16 and Woke fest is quite laughable ! I think DS and DD's they have less time for this Government than i 'do' ! I believe they think its the same as when they were at school and University, and that everyone is 'Labour' because they not a 'Tory'. The term Luddites has never been so relevant with the Labour Party and their 'Century' old assumptions that young people will vote for them. What they and their Judicial, BBC, Guardian, North London, Sport Stars Friends don't understand is that they are now the 'Establishment' and young people do not vote for the 'Old' tired Has Been's!

redange · 18/12/2025 20:12

I believe the Labour Party think its the same as Cool Britannia, when everybody under '50' was a Bonafide believer in the 'transformational' ability of the Sorcerer, Mr Antony Charles Lynton. Otherwise, known as the man who began the 'cascade' of 'Shit' to fall on the Country. 'Rubbing the nose of the right in diversity'....

EasternStandard · 18/12/2025 20:13

redange · 18/12/2025 20:04

To think my 2 DD's and my DS are among the target audience for Labour' agenda with votes at 16 and Woke fest is quite laughable ! I think DS and DD's they have less time for this Government than i 'do' ! I believe they think its the same as when they were at school and University, and that everyone is 'Labour' because they not a 'Tory'. The term Luddites has never been so relevant with the Labour Party and their 'Century' old assumptions that young people will vote for them. What they and their Judicial, BBC, Guardian, North London, Sport Stars Friends don't understand is that they are now the 'Establishment' and young people do not vote for the 'Old' tired Has Been's!

Labour is old and out of touch.

Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 20:25

Bridget Phillipson is blocking the publication of new trans guidance that explains the legal requirement for businesses and public bodies to protect women-only spaces.

The Women and Equalities Secretary has given a statement to the High Court describing the proposed rules as “trans-exclusive” and has failed to sign them off more than three months after receiving them.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) guidance was drawn up following a landmark Supreme Court ruling that only biological women are women under equality law.

In her High Court submission, Ms Phillipson says that banning transgender women – biological males – from women’s lavatories would also mean women could not take their “infant sons” into changing rooms at swimming pools.

She argues that the EHRC guidelines are discriminatory; that the Supreme Court ruling on biological sex mainly concerned maternity rights, and that there are already “many entirely plausible exceptions” to a single-sex rule.

Bridget Phillipson

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/bridget-phillipson/

EasternStandard · 18/12/2025 20:32

Prometheus78 · 18/12/2025 20:25

Bridget Phillipson is blocking the publication of new trans guidance that explains the legal requirement for businesses and public bodies to protect women-only spaces.

The Women and Equalities Secretary has given a statement to the High Court describing the proposed rules as “trans-exclusive” and has failed to sign them off more than three months after receiving them.

The Equality and Human Rights Commission (EHRC) guidance was drawn up following a landmark Supreme Court ruling that only biological women are women under equality law.

In her High Court submission, Ms Phillipson says that banning transgender women – biological males – from women’s lavatories would also mean women could not take their “infant sons” into changing rooms at swimming pools.

She argues that the EHRC guidelines are discriminatory; that the Supreme Court ruling on biological sex mainly concerned maternity rights, and that there are already “many entirely plausible exceptions” to a single-sex rule.

wtf why can’t the guidelines just have an age rate for ‘infant sons’

hamstersarse · 18/12/2025 22:05

justasking111 · 18/12/2025 19:34

Yeah the Andrew Tate type accusations thrown at young men has had it's day. The media obsession with it palled very fast.

And there we are, Jess Philips literally going for Andrew Tate today

She is about 2 years out of date, none of the young uns watch him anymore anyway. But even if they did, as if they are going to listen to her distorted view of him.

You would think at some point they might start wondering how people like Andrew Tate gained traction, because if/when we get a Nick Fuentes, they really need to catch up fast.

Listening to Jess Phillips makes me so angry - she is literally part of the problem of radicalising young men.

redange · 18/12/2025 22:07

Jess Philips Probably thinks Boney M are ' New on the Music Scene'

justasking111 · 18/12/2025 22:12

hamstersarse · 18/12/2025 22:05

And there we are, Jess Philips literally going for Andrew Tate today

She is about 2 years out of date, none of the young uns watch him anymore anyway. But even if they did, as if they are going to listen to her distorted view of him.

You would think at some point they might start wondering how people like Andrew Tate gained traction, because if/when we get a Nick Fuentes, they really need to catch up fast.

Listening to Jess Phillips makes me so angry - she is literally part of the problem of radicalising young men.

Really? OH that's priceless 😁 😁

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