Labour isn't working - Thread 23

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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They have not got much depth in the squad, have they?

Yes I get what you mean and I can’t see any other way out of that crisis than a GE.

TheNuthatch · Today 09:55
Good morning 😁
Just watched Pat McFadden on Trevor Phillips. He's such a snake! He has unveiled plans to remove benefits from young people if they refuse to undertake work or training. Great, except this government are simultaneously pushing up unemployment with every decision they make. 🙄 Where are they supposed to find work in this climate?
Baroness Falkner was also interviewed. She was excellent. What an inspiring woman she is. Of course McFadden didn't have an answer to any of the points she made.
Christmas decs are going up today. I've decided to stick with the BH tree that I bought last year, mainly because I'm too stubborn to admit that I don't like it. 😂 We'll have to clean as we go as I still haven't had time to do the big clean.
Last roast dinner before Christmas here too, and need to give the dogs an extra long walk.

Again with Labour announcing ideas without a clue about what they are proposing . I am particularly worried about their 'incompetent ' and dangerous ideas about getting young people with SEND difficulties in to 'Hospitality' which cannot even pay their Business rates or for 'able' staff at present. How would any Catering Establishment have the resources and time to support a young person with SEND. What will happen is the young person with SEND will end up clearing the bins and other 'Menial' jobs with no chance of improvement. Then, what about putting a Autistic and Dyspraxic 22 year old on a Building Site highly dangerous. Clearly they are 'clueless' and far more 'nasty' than the Conservatives or Reform.

However, we have on another thread 'supporters' of this ill thought out, idea putting their ill informed ideas and praising the Labour Party as usual.

I have said it time and again, Disabled people and young people with SEND disabilities, need an organisation like the old Remploy to be formed.

Labour are not able to enact welfare reform, they are incapable of implementing immigration reform, and their economic policies are high tax, and anti-growth. Throw in the incompetence and sleaze, and the futile attempts at controlling the electorate via digital ID, and the postponement of local elections, and no wonder Starmer’s popularity is the worst of any PM.

By any meaningful measure, surely the majority of people feel poorer, less optimistic about the future of the UK, and angrier.

This wretched excuse for a government cannot say that they weren’t warned, if social cohesion starts to fray.

New Car Sales are Collapsing I wonder why . Unintended (INTENDED) consequences.
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Agree on Remploy etc.

This is just a pathetic attempt by Labour to combat the budget narrative of raising taxes to give to Benefits Street.
Young people and their families know exactly whats happening in the jobs market rn.
Labour are reacting again, rather than leading, which is what happens when you put an incompetent fuckwit in No.10.

Yes it’d be better for young people if they didn’t tank employment to start with. And NI and other policies damage that age group even more.

Is the ultimate aim of this Government that nobody lives on St Georges Hill or like in the United Kingdom. This in order to 'really' reduce inequality, because everybody will be skint ! Job Done the ultimate aim of the Labour Party and the Fabians completed.

The UK’s ‘abandoned billionaires’ ghost town’ as 1 in 4 mansions left empty | UK | News | Express.co.uk

For context, a number left prior to Labour, following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, in fact. Chinese money prefers friendlier jurisdictions, so now it’s predominantly Middle Eastern, African and some Brits.

An entrepreneur who backed Labour at the last election has closed his business, blaming escalating costs and “economic uncertainty”.

Ben Govier, the owner of Dylan’s Ice Cream, which has parlours in Surrey and Hampshire, said he was shutting because the business environment had “simply become unsustainable”.

Mr Govier was one of 120 company chiefs who in May last year signed a letter backing Keir Starmer’s agenda for business just weeks before the general election.

People were really led up the garden path.

My SIL lives on the Isle of Wight.

She is absolutely furious at the 'postponing' of elections again- (it's either the third or 4th time). She's also furious because the Government unilaterally changed the designation to 'Hamsphire and Solent' from Hampshire and the Isle of Wight. Her facebook posts are funny and on point. The Solent is the fucking sea. They are denying people of the IOW not only democracy but also have taken away their name and identity.

Yes youth unemployment is at 15 percent, and we have talented young people hopping it to Singapore etc - that won’t help generate growth either.

@redange agree re SEN and employment, labour has shown no insight whatsoever on this issue. It’s completely obvious that some of the most ‘accessible’ jobs on the surface are in fact the hardest in terms of public facing, in brightly lit noisy environments etc.

if they really cared they’d have had an actual plan….

Apologies if covered already, but this bit of Labour Party management made me smile: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7vmlmm9343o

It’s not ‘I’m now reappointing the “hugely talented” <snigger> Rayner’ it’s ’Oh, she’ll be back in the cabinet…at some point’.

Starmer really is fighting for his political life. He’s now trying to peel Rayner away from Streeting.

I also see that Labour’s planted the ‘Corruption Commissioner’s’ report in the Mirror. It’ll be interesting to see how much Tory ‘corruption’ is exposed - as opposed to people ripping off the government. My money’s on no Tory corruption. Not that any of the gullible Labour shills on MN will come clean about the torrent of lies they repeated.

Yes, just as soon as she has settled her outstanding tax bill, and cleared due diligence.

The bollard might therefore be waiting a while, until the flame-haired fiscal felon returns, unless of course, he adopts the same lax procedure he did with Mandy.

Bit random, but did everybody know, as a nation we still pay benefits like pension credit, etc to second and third wives - and possibly 4th etc? I can't believe no one's ever sorted this out. Basically, if you are in a polygamous marriage situation, all of the spouses can claim. I won't blame Labour for this because this should've been sorted out ages ago.

Why is this country completely bonkers?! no one has done any housekeeping or admin for years. They need a massive to-do list on that front. And they need to actually do it.

We were all young once; it was a time when most of our views were either black or white before experience and education changed our world view and made us realise there are many, many more than just 50 shades of grey in real life.

One notable exception, though, is KS, whose extreme student politics have apparently become entrenched as he's aged. It's quite frightening when you consider the power wielded by this narrow-minded madman and his cronies.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13532089/young-Sir-Keir-Starmer-ended-Communist-spy-files-Cold-War.html

I admire him for being young and idealistic. I can’t see a problem with him going to Czech back in the day to build a memorial to victims of the Nazis.

I’m not so impressed with him as a mature man. He didn’t live up to his early promise. Not everyone fulfils their potential.

I think Starmer has been given way too much credit - he’s a cypher, a stuffed suit, an NPC.

Mediocre at best, and destined to be a forgettable footnote in history.

DH can't even stand his voice now switching channels.

Labour have a new law in their sights. Wood burners. It's really ramping up the fear quotient. I thought particulates causing diabetes was bizarre. Yesterday experts added dementia.

It reminds me of Cummings nudge theory.

They're claiming it destroys your neighbours health, causes 250k deaths a year now. So report to your council.

Go onto Google type in wood burner, click on news. There's reams of recent articles. Middle class popularity is a phrase constantly used.

It's never ending. Using neighbours to spy on each other. Just like COVID times.

I admire him for being young and idealistic. I can’t see a problem with him going to Czech back in the day to build a memorial to victims of the Nazis.
I’m not so impressed with him as a mature man. He didn’t live up to his early promise. Not everyone fulfils their potential.

Do you believe that !
To me it is obvious he has always been a danger to the United kingdom. How has someone like that 'career' pathway not been blocked, or allowed to continue. This, makes me very worried that our old systems, are infiltrated by malign forces. The, very fact he chose to go over to a 'Communist' indoctrination camp at 23, this being at the time in the 1980's being equal in threat to the UK as, Shamina Begum joining ISIS.

Thus, it beggars belief that someone with even 'childhood' fantasies about the 'Warsaw' Pact and the glory of a Socialist World, career was not limited to being a Provincial Solicitor dealing in Conveyancing work.

It is quite extraordinary how such a charmless, non noticeable man has progressed first to Director of Public Prosecutions, and than on to becoming Prime Minister, . Or, perhaps the lack of being notice is the core skill of people who seek to 'destroy' the functioning and alter the historical structure of a state.

Graduates will be £24,500 worse off from the budget

www.thetimes.com/article/49763dd4-c7c8-471b-92ca-b9bb40191a89?shareToken=2e5699c5deb26fefcde133084b93778b

And oh look our favourite rhetoric from the govt ‘it’s fair for graduates to pay more as they earn more’…clobber clobber clobber that aspiration.

It is also beyond 'parody' that Nigel Farage is being continued trolled about his behavior at school which have no consequences for the United Kingdom. yet Potentially 'Very Serious questions about Kier Starmer's 'past'/current affiliations are seen as a bit of fun !

I’m the same generation. I remember the cold war. A lot of young people wanted to find ways of building bridges. Generally a good impulse, if somewhat niaveI’m the same generation. I remember the Cold War. A lot of young people wanted to find ways of building bridges. Generally a good impulse, if somewhat naïve. I can forgive a 23 year old for being naive. I have less patience for 62 year old PM. He should have learned a little more in the last 40 years!

I’m not taking Farage’s school boy antics seriously either. Thirteen year old boys love to shock and provoke. Heaven only knows what he actually said. But people are allowed to be children and then grow up. Even vile children.

I thought he was very astute to turn it back on the BBC pointing out the content of their programmes at the time. I am not a Farage fan, but it is foolish to underestimate him.