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Labour isn't working - Thread 21

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TheNuthatch · 23/11/2025 09:49

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

We are bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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the80sweregreat · 26/11/2025 12:38

Someone in the OBR is probably sitting with their head in their hands! Either that or up the pub drowning their sorrows looking for a new job.

NoWordForFluffy · 26/11/2025 12:40

EasternStandard · 26/11/2025 11:49

Kemi tracking upwards that’s good

Kemi's been on bloody fire recently. I am liking her output. She's doing so well.

RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 12:40

truthsayers · 26/11/2025 12:36

so voting against welfare cuts? no cuts to benefits, but increases? Taxing workers to fund those who won’t work? What a wonderful example to set people. Sit back, don’t work, skive, have multiple kids
and get paid for it.

I have sympathy for the disabled. Like if they can work but need support to meet the costs they should get it. Lots of people on PIP work. If someone is too disabled to work they need support.

I also have sympathy for those stuck on low paying careers and needing top ups

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Sarahconnor1 · 26/11/2025 12:42

What a shambles.

And tax burden to reach record high by 2030 according to OBR.

TheNuthatch · 26/11/2025 12:43

Catatemyhomework · 26/11/2025 12:28

What does this pension contributions above £2000 mean? Getting stressed

They're going after salary sacrifice.

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truthsayers · 26/11/2025 12:43

RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 12:40

I have sympathy for the disabled. Like if they can work but need support to meet the costs they should get it. Lots of people on PIP work. If someone is too disabled to work they need support.

I also have sympathy for those stuck on low paying careers and needing top ups

me too. I’m talking about the career benefit spongers. The second and third generation people who can work but don’t work. I know of many.

RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 12:47

truthsayers · 26/11/2025 12:43

me too. I’m talking about the career benefit spongers. The second and third generation people who can work but don’t work. I know of many.

I know a few people like this as well. No effort in school and no desire to work after.

I'm also partially inclined to personal responsibility for those who aren't disabled and don't have caring responsibilities.

Catatemyhomework · 26/11/2025 12:48

TheNuthatch · 26/11/2025 12:43

They're going after salary sacrifice.

Well that's us screwed then

EasternStandard · 26/11/2025 13:06

Have they lifted the benefit cap or is it still going?

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 13:09

Key points from Sky

.Tax thresholds will be frozen for an additional three years
The point at which people start paying higher rates of tax will be held. It can mean earners will be dragged into higher tax bands when they get a pay rise.
This will raise £8bn.

Taxes hiked on gambling
The gambling industry is going to be taxed more, to raise more than £1bn.

New mileage-tax on electric cars
Electric car drivers will be subject to a 3p charge for every mile they drive.
This is expected to raise £1.4bn, according to the OBR report.

Change to capital gains tax for employee ownership trusts
This is a tax relief on companies owned by employees.
This is expected to raise £900m

Salary-sacrifice' pension contributions above £2,000 to face National Insurance
From April 2029, National Insurance will be charged on salary-sacrificed pension contributions above an annual £2,000 threshold.
This will raise £4.7bn

Two-child benefit cap to be scrapped from April
According to the OBR's analysis of the chancellor's budget this will cost the government £2.3bn.
This currently limits the amount of benefits parents can claim for their third child or subsequent children who were born after 6 April 2017. By scrapping the cap, the government hopes it will have a direct impact on reducing child poverty.
This will apply from April 2026

Tax-free cash ISA limit cut
Savers will only be able to put up to £12,000 into cash ISAs tax-free each year. This is reduced from £20,000 in the hopes that Britons will instead put their money into stocks and shares ISAs.
Over 65s can retain the full £20,000 allowance

Mansion tax introduced on properties worth more than £2m
It means the most expensive properties in the country, worth more than £2m, will have to pay extra.
This will be £2,500 for properties worth £2m to £2.5m and
up to £7,500 for homes valued at £5m.
This will raise £0.4bn, the OBR has confirmed.

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 13:10

EasternStandard · 26/11/2025 13:06

Have they lifted the benefit cap or is it still going?

The 2 child benefit cap has been lifted

EasternStandard · 26/11/2025 13:11

Ah they have thanks for confirming. Another tax hike after lying about last time and benefits. Predictable Labour it is then.

CruCru · 26/11/2025 13:18

Am watching Kemi. God I really like her. Keir Starmer is so rude to her.

A friend was in the HoC for PMQs a few weeks ago - she said that Kemi is even better in real life.

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 13:19

Urgh, I got called away and missed everything. Did we find out what the final figure was for this year's black hole?

AlexandraBee · 26/11/2025 13:27

Stand down. She’s abolishing bingo duty.

RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 13:29

CruCru · 26/11/2025 13:18

Am watching Kemi. God I really like her. Keir Starmer is so rude to her.

A friend was in the HoC for PMQs a few weeks ago - she said that Kemi is even better in real life.

Can I ask if you agree with her about scraping net zero?

nearlylovemyusername · 26/11/2025 13:30

ProfessorDrPrunesqualer · 26/11/2025 13:09

Key points from Sky

.Tax thresholds will be frozen for an additional three years
The point at which people start paying higher rates of tax will be held. It can mean earners will be dragged into higher tax bands when they get a pay rise.
This will raise £8bn.

Taxes hiked on gambling
The gambling industry is going to be taxed more, to raise more than £1bn.

New mileage-tax on electric cars
Electric car drivers will be subject to a 3p charge for every mile they drive.
This is expected to raise £1.4bn, according to the OBR report.

Change to capital gains tax for employee ownership trusts
This is a tax relief on companies owned by employees.
This is expected to raise £900m

Salary-sacrifice' pension contributions above £2,000 to face National Insurance
From April 2029, National Insurance will be charged on salary-sacrificed pension contributions above an annual £2,000 threshold.
This will raise £4.7bn

Two-child benefit cap to be scrapped from April
According to the OBR's analysis of the chancellor's budget this will cost the government £2.3bn.
This currently limits the amount of benefits parents can claim for their third child or subsequent children who were born after 6 April 2017. By scrapping the cap, the government hopes it will have a direct impact on reducing child poverty.
This will apply from April 2026

Tax-free cash ISA limit cut
Savers will only be able to put up to £12,000 into cash ISAs tax-free each year. This is reduced from £20,000 in the hopes that Britons will instead put their money into stocks and shares ISAs.
Over 65s can retain the full £20,000 allowance

Mansion tax introduced on properties worth more than £2m
It means the most expensive properties in the country, worth more than £2m, will have to pay extra.
This will be £2,500 for properties worth £2m to £2.5m and
up to £7,500 for homes valued at £5m.
This will raise £0.4bn, the OBR has confirmed.

also Dividend tax increases 2%. Tax rates on dividends, property and savings income has risen two percentage points.

EasternStandard · 26/11/2025 13:31

CruCru · 26/11/2025 13:18

Am watching Kemi. God I really like her. Keir Starmer is so rude to her.

A friend was in the HoC for PMQs a few weeks ago - she said that Kemi is even better in real life.

She’s excellent. Clear and strong.

He’s a petty bully. I can’t stand how he speaks. The sneering derision says more about him than her. Weak.

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 13:32

RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 13:29

Can I ask if you agree with her about scraping net zero?

I do.

EmpressoftheMundane · 26/11/2025 13:33

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 13:32

I do.

So do I.

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 13:33

£30bn of tax rises then 😱

Rivalled · 26/11/2025 13:34

Can’t understand how they think this is going to encourage growth whatsoever…

AlexandraBee · 26/11/2025 13:35

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 13:32

I do.

I do too. The impact the uk makes on climate change is like the flea on a flea on an elephant. Probably smaller. Until china, the USA, India and Russia make changes, what we do is pointless. Just costs us money and makes certain people much richer.

SpaceRaccoon · 26/11/2025 13:35

RelationshipGuru · 26/11/2025 13:29

Can I ask if you agree with her about scraping net zero?

I really like Kemi too and I'd definitely like to see the brakes go on there. It's partly what's causing the sky high energy bills, and I live in a part of the country that is at the sharp end of the actual infrastructure - mega pylons, wind farms, battery storage. It's actually hugely ecologically destructive, and that's before you get into the destruction of landscapes, archeological sites, wildlife habitats, loss of tourism revenue etc.

Upstartled · 26/11/2025 13:35

Rivalled · 26/11/2025 13:34

Can’t understand how they think this is going to encourage growth whatsoever…

No. I think they have given up on growth.

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