Labour isn't working - Thread 21

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙

We are bracing for the budget 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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Thank you.
Thats an excellent speech, not that Reeves will listen. She doesn't give a rat's arse about anything except saving herself and Starmer from their backbenchers.

No it's fine. I'm just trying to get my head around the economic situation. Happy to be challenged. I'm a Tory voter.

Jeez, Alister Darling, there's a blast, how did I forget those Sam Eagle eyebrows?

Thank you for this.

😂😂 They are spectacular eyebrows.

It caused a rift between him and Brown. Brown wanted to keep pretending that all was well to save his own skin.

Wall Street is predicting £30bn pounds of tax rises. So it looks like half of our increased tax payments is servicing the welfare budget inflation and this unwanted two child uncapping. No doubt most of the rest will be to service debt payments.

It's the most demoralising tax hikes in history.

And we all have to ignore that Chagos is going to cost us £36bn - otherwise we'd all go mad.

The lift on the two child cap along with tax rises will piss so many people off. It will be their undoing. The press will go wild and labour won't be able to justify it. Maybe we will have the IMF by easter after all.

It's increasingly hard to be detached from the feeling that ambition is being razed to the ground and the dire consequences of that are being willfully ignored.

Catatemyhomework
I do agree that after Wednesday this may well be the labour party’s ‘ poll tax ‘ moment and I foresee a huge back lash. Taking from pensioners isn’t a good look and the two child cap should remain in place.

And to think, this will not be the last round of hikes. There will be some other bullshit exogenous event that she will blame.

And in December, when the BOE cuts, Reeves will look to take credit for that - saying that her policies were ‘weighing down on inflation, for working people’ or some similar nonsense.

Reeves’s legacy will be to go down in history as one of the worst, if not the worst, Chancellor on record.

Absolutely.

That cutting of the child benefit cap, may well prove to be the smoking gun.

@RelationshipGuru today’s Political Currency has a question about the long term impact of Liz Truss’ budget which might be of interest. It’s about 15 minutes in.

Apple podcasts link, but available elsewhere:

https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/political-currency/id1706536336?i=1000737827117

I think so too. People don’t want that change. It comes down to Starmer and Reeves wanting to keep their jobs.

OK. If we pretend accept that is true, wouldn't it be a good idea to get to work sorting it out, rather than make it even worse?

Who here would want Sunak back as PM?

Me.

Would you?

Presumably you would if you're a tory voter?

You mentioned you were a Tory voter - who was your favourite Tory PM, and why?

Yes Sunak please come back.

I really can't believe were we are after not even 2 years of labour. I thought they'd be bad but this situation we're in I could have never imagined and so quickly as well.

Husband and I are also looking into a move to the middle east-had considered singapore but they have really tightened up on foreign workers visas as husband job is on many of the short skills list but was nigh on impossible to get interviews even with 25 years experience in his field

Is it?

Yes yes. I would! I loved him.

I liked Boris only on one thing - his belief in renewables and clean energy.

I loved rishi as chancellor. He was a decent PM who made a few mistakes but was honest and decent

It's just for a few years now we've been getting attacked as useless and destroying the economy.

I really don't get the 2 child limit lifting. If we were in times of plenty I could understand, even if I didn't agree. But to do it now, especially when the public are majority against, just seems to be a case of Starmer and Reeves being terrified of their own back benchers , rather than a sensible economic choice.

I would not listen to those on the left - Labour have achieved a significant amount of economic vandalism in less than 18 months, and that’s without a global pandemic, or the UK’s departure from the EU.

Labour are busy building a ‘welfare state’, where many of us tax payers are the host to this parasitic government. Their only aim is to ensure that they remain in government, and if that means ‘buying votes’ at our expense, then so be it.

Some of us here have suffered directly owning to Labour’s policies.

If you are as critical of this wretched government as many of us are, then you will find yourself in great company.