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Last wedding (well celebration, the wedding happened in lockdown) was between a Uni friend and his (obviously) wife, who is a C of E vicar.

The celebrant was a friend of theirs who is also a (lesbian) C of E vicar.

For reasons we needn't get into here, I was faintly amused that as the wedding took place in the vicarage orchard, a cock crowed three times. I mean I can't remember the last time I ever heard a cock crow, let alone 3 times at a wedding. But no one else noticed, so it's probably a thing.

Just don't start telling me how I "must" think this or do that because of it. That's when sparks may fly.

As if I would dare
I’d tell you I believe in God and Science at the same time, but that particular debate here at chez Sauce has replaced the need for having the heating on many a time, so I won’t

I’d tell you I believe in God

But - and really it's the only question that matters - is how does that actually affect me ? In exactly the same was as how does my not believing in (your) God affect you ?

Was the bride's name Tess and the groom's nane Angel?

Sadly not - although if that's a cultural reference, you need to remember that I am still mourning the passing of Mani, if that helps date me 😀

It doesn’t affect either of us. Nobody should judge anybody for anything but their actions. If it’s a good deed that benefits others then it doesn’t matter where the motivation came from.
I only started talking about religion in relation to racist twats attempting to hijack it. They can’t stand in front of a cross and say they are hating in Jesus’ name, because that’s a lie. Always has been, always will be.
Now, Sunday notwithstanding, that’s enough Jesusing from me.

Goes a bit further back than Mani! 1891, Tess of the D'Ubervilles.

Ah, Tess and her vast erection. Why did I not go there immediately ?

I may start believing the flag shaggers are only saving our culture when I see Yaxley Lennon has become an aficionado and expertly skilled at Morris dancing, or seeing them dance the Maypole.

Until then, its a cynical attempt at gaslighting us into thinking they are genuine. Finding God is easy let's see them put their money where their mouth is.

aficionado and expertly skilled at Morris dancing
They’ll do anything for Hate. But they won’t do that. In the words (nearly) of Meatloaf.

Or even take part in the Highland Games, sing and perform in a concert in Wales, or engage in Irish GAA athletics.

Jane! 🤣

That hymn thread is bonkers.

I have to admit that I don't really know any hymns, especially not in English, and I went to a catholic primary school.

I wonder how long it'll take Elrond's Musket to undo this new feature?

X rolled out a new feature overnight showing where accounts are based. This network of “Trump-supporting independent women” that claimed to be “real Americans” are based in Thailand. The photos were stolen from European models & posts pushed pro-Trump lines while targeting Islam and LGBTQ people.

https://bsky.app/profile/bendobrown.bsky.social/post/3m6ceaxldl22d

It certainly has panicked a few people @MaybeNotBob !

I spent a year at a small local primary school and I learned a lot of those hymns. I still know a few bits here and there. The thread is indeed bonkers.

I know Ave Maria in Latin and Ag Criost an Siol. I had a Catholic upbringing. No longer believe.

I refer you to the Northern Irish DUP - Peter and Iris Robertson , Jeffrey Donaldson !

That's an awful case and has been kept quiet so the victims can finally get justice. No speculation. Jeffrey specifically.

@placemats it really is awful!!

Bah. It is what a person does when no one is looking, and there is no gain that is character.

Beware piety. Or claims of morality. Good people are self evident. They do not need to write their own reference for you to read

Shouldn’t Tiny Tom be chasing the Catholic religion- I hear a lot of Holy War/crusading speak from those quarters? Expect the Pope has far too poor religious understanding for their gang - like Jesus had apparently really 👀
I sit on the fence more or less, but it just seems very wrong to use the C of E (or any religion tbh) for such abhorrent other beliefs/behaviours.
I do know churches often support asylum seekers and one turned out for an anti racist protest at a hotel to stand against folk following Tiny last time (don’t know which one) but perhaps they are desperate for bums on seats - it’s definitely a church I wouldn’t enter if I knew such folk were in it - but that doesn't help any actual numbers of course.

Well done @cardibach👏👏👏
I have a night in Cardiff to book - courtesy of kids - never been and have wanted to a while. It’s in with a yoga day so won’t see lots though.

Lots of lovely things to see/eat here! Where is the yoga happening?

Congratulations @cardibach