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Thread 38 Starmer: Tax your Hamster

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DuncinToffee · 19/11/2025 15:22

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SerendipityJane · 22/11/2025 18:08

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2025 17:53

Farage's defence over Gill is that he didn't get paid for his Russian propoganda

He's not a very good businessman then.

Hardly the advert for Reform.

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2025 18:09

I am sure he got paid for his Russian tv appearances

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RafaistheKingofClay · 22/11/2025 18:46

Somebody has ‘forgotten’ they set the terms of reference for the inquiry.

TheOnlyMrsW · 22/11/2025 19:02

Need to go and catch up - thanks as always to all on this thread, I don't often post but lurk always and learn lots. We generally spend our Saturday nights listening to music now that it's just us and Aerosmith's Living on the Edge has just come on. 32 years old and the lyrics could be written now........

Evenstar · 22/11/2025 19:12

I have been watching The Remains of the Day this afternoon, the rhetoric of the Nazi sympathisers is so similar to Reform, people seem to have forgotten that our parents and grandparents fought to stop that evil spreading across the world.

Reform here and MAGA in America are dishonouring the memory of the fallen whilst wrapping themselves in flags and claiming to be patriots.

cardibach · 22/11/2025 19:37

SerendipityJane · 22/11/2025 16:41

People would be surprised at how long the shadow of the war is. I was taught by several teachers who had served (women too).

My DGMs last confused thoughts as she slipped under the waves of dementia were to ask my aunt if she "made it through the bombs alright" when she visited DGM in hospital. This was 1991.

And it's quite possible that some born in the same year as me (kind 60s 😀) could have had a father - not a grandfather, a father - who was serving in 1945.

Once our generations have faded,it'll just be newsreels and noise.

1964 birth. Father in the RAF from 1939-45. It does worry me what happens when the direct personal connection goes.

Notonthestairs · 22/11/2025 19:56

TheOnlyMrsW · 22/11/2025 19:02

Need to go and catch up - thanks as always to all on this thread, I don't often post but lurk always and learn lots. We generally spend our Saturday nights listening to music now that it's just us and Aerosmith's Living on the Edge has just come on. 32 years old and the lyrics could be written now........

Great song!

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 22/11/2025 20:38

SerendipityJane · 22/11/2025 16:41

People would be surprised at how long the shadow of the war is. I was taught by several teachers who had served (women too).

My DGMs last confused thoughts as she slipped under the waves of dementia were to ask my aunt if she "made it through the bombs alright" when she visited DGM in hospital. This was 1991.

And it's quite possible that some born in the same year as me (kind 60s 😀) could have had a father - not a grandfather, a father - who was serving in 1945.

Once our generations have faded,it'll just be newsreels and noise.

I was born in the early sixties, youngest of a large family. Both of my parents served in the RAF in WW2. Dad was captured at the fall of Singapore so spent the remainder of the war as a Japanese POW. My grandfathers both served in the trenches in WW1.

WW2 was very real to me as a child with an immediate contact to it.

Grumpyoldpersonwithcats · 22/11/2025 20:40

@cardibach - we have something in common.

PickAChew · 22/11/2025 21:33

My parents are the first of the boomers so we're really not far from that direct link being lost. It's unfortunate that the collective memory loss includes so many Gen Xers. Born at the end of the 60s, my primary school years were closer to WWII than they are to now, after all.

pointythings · 22/11/2025 21:41

I was born in 1968, my parents in '40 and '41. My mother spent her early years in a Japanese POW camp - she was born in Indonesia - and her father died on the Burma Railway. My father lived through most of the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands and ended up with permanently shortened legs due to rickets as a result.

Both of them would be disgusted to see what is happening and the way people are repeating the past.

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2025 21:44

From YouGov

Why do people think England flags have been raised on lampposts?

White adults
National pride: 26%
Anti-migrant/minority sentiment: 49%
Both: 19%

Ethnic minority adults
National pride: 15%
Anti-migrant/minority sentiment: 55%
Both: 20%

https://yougov.co.uk/society/articles/53457-england-flag-has-become-a-racist-symbol-say-ethnic-minority-adults?utm_source=website_article&utm_medium=bluesky&utm_campaign=53457

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itsgettingweird · 22/11/2025 21:52

My dad was born 1950.

Both his parents were in forces during WW2 and both born before WW1 so lived through both.

Evenstar · 22/11/2025 21:53

@DuncinToffee I just came here to see if anyone had shared that, I think it is past time for our politicians and media to call these people out. No more mealy mouthed platitudes about patriotism or excuses about “genuine concerns”

BIWI · 22/11/2025 22:56

Rail fares in England to be frozen for the first time in 30 years

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygx71g3n7o

Love the final 2 paragraphs:

Labour said passengers had faced "relentless" fare increases every year under the previous Tory government.

However, shadow transport secretary Richard Holden said: "In government, the Conservatives kept fares on the right track with below-inflation rises and consistently called for no further hikes to protect hard-working commuters."

So they did fuck all, basically!

Train on platform at station in London. Passengers can be seen walking along the platform

Rail fares to be frozen in England next year

Regulated fares, which include season tickets and off-peak returns, will not see annual price rises for the first time in 30 years, the government announces.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygx71g3n7o

DuncinToffee · 22/11/2025 23:03

Prescription charges are frozen again as well

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BIWI · 22/11/2025 23:04

I hadn’t seen anything about that - but at least the news (good news!) about rail fares is being reported by Sky and the BBC.

PickAChew · 22/11/2025 23:17

BIWI · 22/11/2025 22:56

Rail fares in England to be frozen for the first time in 30 years

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwygx71g3n7o

Love the final 2 paragraphs:

Labour said passengers had faced "relentless" fare increases every year under the previous Tory government.

However, shadow transport secretary Richard Holden said: "In government, the Conservatives kept fares on the right track with below-inflation rises and consistently called for no further hikes to protect hard-working commuters."

So they did fuck all, basically!

I considered the journey down to Harrogate for Knit and stitch. I went to Harrogate with DS1, 10 years ago, for about £40. We had a family railcard but that basically meant that he went with me for free. If I had gone, my ticket would have been £120.

derxa · 22/11/2025 23:34

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DuncinToffee · 22/11/2025 23:39

Does that matter @derxa ?

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BIWI · 22/11/2025 23:42

WTF does that actually mean @derxa?!

PandoraSocks · 22/11/2025 23:52

BIWI · 22/11/2025 23:42

WTF does that actually mean @derxa?!

I am echoing your WTF?

Efacsen · 22/11/2025 23:52

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So??

BIWI · 23/11/2025 00:27

Come on @derxa - you can’t just bitchplop something like that without saying what you mean.

Notonthestairs · 23/11/2025 00:49

That’s the default. Plop and run away.

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