Labour isn't working - Thread 20

[TheNuthatch]

A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government. 💙* *

We are bracing for the budget. 😬

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5443813-labour-isnt-working-thread-19?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Sadly, I am pessimistic.

I think this lot are sadomasochists, and we will be stuck in a doom loop until they’re out. There is no growth, and Starmer and Reeves are being held to ransom by the back benches and unions. Next week’s budget will fail to generate what is required for an ever-growing fiscal deficit.

Sorry to say it as I see it, but it’s what I am preparing for, at least.

A good outcome would be a caretaker administration.

Agree we seem to have voted in a Labour Party from a bygone age…

I also get cross when politicians (of any party) define themselves based on where they went to school.

I agree - but also when they are defined by others by where they went to school as it was almost certainly their parents’ decision, not theirs.
On here the most popular insult for Tory MPs is ‘public school’ - it’s pretty tired really.
(Though Labour MP Kanishka Narayan is an Old Etonian but maybe it’s ok if they’re Labour).

@ChardonnaysBeastlyCat there's no need to feel guilty

To be honest, I think we're stuck in a weird cultural doom loop when no one is allowed to be happy or has to feel guilty if they've got any money for any reason. I think that's a powerful narrative that's been pushed for a long time now, not just under this government. Presumably because divisive stuff gets more clicks.

I'm trying to be very careful how much time I spend online - believe it or not 😂 - because honestly, everyone just gets criticised for everything.

If it makes you feel better, I've just got home early and lots of people in my block have had parcels delivered. I presume Black Friday sales have started early.

In the spirit of not spending too much time online

I've not heard of some of the names being mentioned in relation to education - I think some of it it is before I was born possibly - but I remember my parents really worrying about where we were moving to when I was a kid, because there was no grammar school or it wasn't a catchment area or something.

They were incredibly worried about it and as a little kid I just remember this discussion that happened every night and seemed to worry them immensely.

but I'm not going to look it up, because there will be many rabbit holes to fall down I'm sure! 😂 going to find myself something engaging to watch this evening.

I would say their incompetence and resultant vilification by (most of) the British public is unrivalled in political history.

Defence Secretary failed to pay council tax on second home.

John Healey blames council’s ‘administrative error’ for underpayment of close to £1,500 in tax

He rectified the mistake on Thursday only after The Telegraph had approached him.

F me. What is wrong with these people?

😂I'm clearly also highly immature because I enjoyed it immensely.

FGS, don’t give them any more ideas….

More than seven million homeowners in France are poised to be hit with a “toilet tax” following a nationwide property revaluation.

The Ministry of Finance is planning to automatically revalue 20pc of the country’s housing stock, according to government documents seen by Le Parisien newspaper.

Property taxes are partly based on evidence of so-called “comfort features”, such as running water, heating and an indoor toilet.

The evaluation system has not been updated since the 1970s, when the comforts – including modern staples such as mains electricity and a shower – were not deemed a guarantee in every property.

Another great idea…

Labour is considering softening penalties for benefit claimants who routinely fail to show up to the job centre.
Officials are considering introducing “non-financial” sanctions for benefit claimants, amid concerns from MPs that current penalties are “not always applied appropriately, fairly and proportionately”.

I work very long hours and my job can be very difficult, for various reasons. Sometimes I just need something pretty and frivolous.

winkyinthecity · Today 11:57

More of this please! Conservatives win.
“Hale’s been let down for four years. It’s the same as everywhere in Trafford. We’ve got a Labour administration that’s letting us down. It needs passionate local councillors to speak up for the residents.”
Losing Green candidate Ms Weir was magnanimous in defeat, congratulating Ms Shalom. She said: “Thank you so much to all of those who supported us. We’re disappointed not to have made it over the line this time

What is the attitude of the 'new' Labour Councilors of Trafford Council towards Alty/Boys Girls, Loreto. Ambrose and Sale Grammar. Are they proposing like in my time some 10 or so years ago to be keen on phasing them out or are they as hypocritical as ever. In my time all the lefties sent kids to Alty/Boys or girls, Sale Grammar seem to be the trendy one though. Is this still the same way

Secondly do Altrincham girls still attract a certain type of girl that went to Bowdon Prep. I have a lot of friends educated at Alty Girls and Loreto in the 80s and 90s. They have tended though to send their offspring To Withington or Kings apparently been not particularly keen at present with Altrincham Girls.

Quentin Letts on the role of the church in helping the poor, an American fraudster, and how the politicians need to grow some (or words to that effect) to deal with those clamouring for yet more benefits.

https://archive.ph/6J7Hf

Despite acres of press coverage on second homes council tax increases. Healey blames the council 🙄

FT

While most Labour MPs want to scrap the two-child cap, they know the move could go down badly with a public that broadly supports the limit on benefits and will be pilloried by the Conservatives. Some large families could be £20,000 a year better off after the change.

Absolutely astonishing.

Fucking hell.

The pay rise I'd need to be £20k in hand better off is massive (and never going to happen!).

I know, right?

It’s so fucked.

And working (sorry, non-working) families will be 20k a year worse off so I suppose that balances neatly in the mind of a Labour politician.

Shame I didn't pop more kids out while I was young enough!

Welfare socialism isn’t it?

And so it perpetuates, and the cycle continues.

Sorry I should have said *some in my prior post.

It’s like winning the lottery for some isn’t it.
🌟 £20000 a year for life, tax free!! 🌟

Backfill in earnest folks!!

Dozens of children will be given puberty blockers on the NHS from early next year after a trial was granted ethical approval.
The study by King’s College London will recruit about 250 girls and boys aged 10 to 15 who identify as transgender, and who have parental consent.
More than half will be injected with a hormone-suppressing drug that pauses the physical changes of puberty, such as breasts, periods or facial hair.
The trial is meant to fill an evidence gap about how best to treat gender dysphoria in children, but critics have threatened a High Court challenge to stop it, saying recruiting to the study is like putting “lambs to the slaughter”.

The trial was given the green light on Friday after UK regulators provided ethical and regulatory approval

this is just absolutely sick. literally every aspect of this country is fucked. They are experimenting on children.

Bloody hell that is sick. Age 10 to 15?

What on earth are adults thinking, all of them involved in getting to this stage. Is Streeting involved?

So bad, this needs to blow up on SM

OMG.

I can't believe it. (Well, sadly I can). How on earth can this pass any standard of ethics?