Huntingdon was a lone wolf attack

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Confirmed by police about half an hour ago that the 35 year old arrested has been released without charge.

the lner employee is described as in a critical condition who carried out heroic actions
let's hope very hard he pulls through.

The difference being you are white and haven’t been racially discriminated against your entire life. They had tasered the guy that did it.

No, I get it @Pepperedpickles and it is entirely possible it is a MH issue like the ones you cited. From what I heard about one of the attacks you mention, the usual checks on patients were not happening because the team had been told to concentrate on something else which was a government directive at the time.

But it seems like MH is the first assumption made when there is a horrible event, once terrorism is ruled out. Now, you could argue that anyone doing something like this is not entirely stable/normal/sane and there could be some good debate around that. But there are just antisocial people out there, who feel like this stuff is ok to do.

OP if the attacker had been described as a stocky white male skinhead wearing a football shirt, and in the middle of the terrifying chaos there were 2 stocky white male skinheads wearing football shirts , which one would you like the police to arrest, given that you think they should only arrest one person? Or would it be best to arrest both of them and release the innocent one later?

The one welding the knife they had to taser probably !

There was one eye witnesses who reported seeing a man running down the carriage saying “they are stabbing people”.

Now eye witnesses are notoriously unreliable in high stress situations. The person yelling may have said that, or not, multiple witnesses may have heard that or imagined they heard that.

If multiple witnesses said they believed there was more than one attacker they will have looked for another attacker.

Presumably once they watched the CCTV footage and investigated the backgrounds of those arrested and found that the men were not connected.

Probably the one holding a knife that had been tasered.

True. However all the Azuma trains have cctv. Would take 5 mins to check it. Sure, arrest someone temporarily while checking cctv, I believe that’s allowed. But how long was this person held for?

There is indeed. Lots of people stating things as facts here too though, when they cannot possibly know for sure.

People have had life changing injuries and you worry about the arrest of a second man!

Unbelievable, almost a spoof.

And if it later turned out he’d wrestled the knife from the other one…?

Nobody be would be on mumsnet complaining abiut his arrest through, would they 😉

I wouldn't recommend viewing them. I think you would be shocked at what some regular posters were saying. It was a real eye-opener.

Exactly that!

Axel Radecanu was also one of those cases but didn’t stop it being attributed to the usual…

I think the problem is you’re not managing to convey what it is you’re trying to.

You say your sympathy isn’t based on race but then confirm that your sympathy depends on race.

Tbf literally 95 percent of comments and posts since yesterday have not been to concerned about the actual victims rather than the colour of the persons skin.
He lived through the same ordeal and was locked up for it his had a terrible day it’s ok to feel empathy for that as well the other victims.

Probably because of his skin colour, sad to say.

Well he was screaming at the police for them to kill him as they tasred him so that would be another clue I’d have thought. The witness who was being interviewed earlier today spoke of “attacker” not attackers. And said everyone else had said it was one person.

@Passthebiscuit12 sorry, were you there? Is that how it was? One person holding a knife, and the other one a distance away. And the policeman stopped and thought OK I’ll taser this man with the knife, and I’ll arrest this other random man because he’s black and I’m racist? Or do you think maybe, just maybe, it was all chaotic and there were multiple police in different places having been given the description of the attacker, and wanting to ensure he didn’t get away?

Exactly

Rudakana had Al Qaida manuals and instructions for making ricin in his bedroom, yet it wasn't a terror related attack 🤔

This case will forever stick in my mind - the system failed miserably and 3 young children lost their lives . Like being found in distress in a bus with a knife ( second offence ) and just dropped back of at his mums house -

Or there had been a second knife which was now under a seat or in a bag or discarded elsewhere. They’d just turned up and were acting on the information given to be fair to them.

It’s not like on NCIS - it takes time to get hold of footage, view it, confirm the right people etc.

Then there’s probably a lot of paperwork etc to get through when you’ve wrongly arrested someone in a situation like this.

And we don’t know when exactly he was released before they announced it.