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Is it strange to be a couple long term and never marry?

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Benny91 · 31/10/2025 10:29

As me and my girlfriend are both 33 and are seeing people around our age obviously get married and are feeling strange about it as we’ve been together for 7 years! Is it an absolute societal expectation or norm that if you’re a long term couple that you must marry?

Is there any other couples on here that are in a similar situation to us?

If you are married, what made you want to marry?

It just makes me depressed at the moment that everyone’s getting married and we both don’t know what to do going forward.

OP posts:
OhDear111 · 31/10/2025 17:08

This is the legal position

Is it strange to be a couple long term and never marry?
columnatedruinsdomino · 31/10/2025 17:09

Together over 40 years with 3 grown up children before we had a CP 2 years ago. As PPs have also said, the only reason was IHT.

NoctuaAthene · 31/10/2025 17:11

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/10/2025 16:47

Agreed. I see people talking about patriarchy and religion, neither of which have had anything to do with getting married in a registry office for many decades now. It must cost quite a bit to try to replicate all the legal stuff with a solicitor.

Still, each to her own, as long as the implications of getting married or not getting married are clearly understood.

I don't agree that just because we've stopped explicitly mentioning religious or sexist things (or religion) in the ceremony of marriage that it exempts the whole institution and custom from being patriarchal in nature. The whole notion of marriage as a custom is rooted in concerns about property ownership, control of women and legitimacy of children which is all about protecting men and men's rights, and even the so-lovely 'protections' of marriage for women that are vaunted around a lot, are grounded in the assumption that women will be negatively impacted economically by childbirth and childrearing, will be financially dependent on their partner, won't have assets of their own etc. You only have to look at the most common traditions and customs that prevail around marriage (and yes yes I know you don't have to but the majority of people do the majority of these) to see it's definitely still sexist, the woman wearing white, the bride being given away or accompanied by her father, the men of the party (father of the bride, best man) doing the talking while the women stay silent, the woman changing her name while the man keeps his, it goes on.

It doesn't have to cost money to be just as 'protected', obviously it all depends on circumstance but for me the biggest way anyone can protect themselves is for both parties to retain an income as equal as possible, keep assets and savings in joint names or equal shares (or unequal shares if one party has given up remunerated work to raise children, a greater share of the capital can be put into their name as protection, depending on what the asset is this isn't necessarily expensive to do, e.g. houses it's simple tenants in common with a deed of trust explaining the split). Then if there is a break up it's if anything much easier and cheaper to manage compared to a contentious divorce as both parties simply keep their own assets and incomes (may still have to sort out maintenance of the children but that is an issue if married too)...

Wills can be made to avoid intestacy issues which you should do anyway even if married. Powers of attorney can be a good idea to protect against loss of capacity in old age (and again still a good idea even if married). Pension schemes and insurances will usually allow registration of an unmarried partner as beneficiary with no cost. The bit you can't really work around is the tax issue, which again isn't about it costing more to make arrangements, more that you pretty much have to get married for the state to recognize your relationship...

I'm not saying all this to put down or criticise those who do choose to get married, it can be a perfectly sensible and reasonable step, or to deny that there's useless commitment phobes out there who use excuses about not liking the institution of marriage to shirk their responsibilities. But I do think simply saying oh silly billies, modern marriage is nothing to do with the bad old days, just get married, is minimising the fact that some people genuinely do feel it's not something they want or need in their lives...

Harrysmummy246 · 31/10/2025 17:12

It's fairly normal for couples to be together a fair while before marrying now. We were just shy of 10 years but didn't have DS til after that. There were perhaps, some mental hurdles for now DH as things didn't work out for his parents etc.
Part of it was pure practicalities re finances, tax allowances etc as well though.
It feels like a big step, but really, it's a legal agreement that makes some things easier and in other ways changes absolutely nothing.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 31/10/2025 17:17

It ultimately makes sense financially to marry, or to have a civil partnership.
A couple we know, both at least mid 70s, who’ve been together for decades, recently got married - presumably to take advantage of the double inheritance allowance for couples.

NattyKnitter116 · 31/10/2025 17:17

OhDear111 · 31/10/2025 17:02

@NattyKnitter116 It makes a huge difference! You can share dc but if the msn owns the house, his cohabiting partner has NO rights to that house. Women in the least advantageous position should marry. Any lawyer would advise this.

Ah yes I forgot about the property part!
Different if you are renting.

I think when I had a small child I was better off not being married as no property ownership and no automatic parental responsibility rights then, so it was comparatively easy to persuade abusive ex to leave rather than apply for an injunction (which back then you got legal aid help with, probably don’t now).

I didn’t ever threaten to withhold granting parental responsibility but if I hadn’t had that advantage in my pocket he certainly would have tried to manipulate me with it.

in the event he never applied for it as I did very successful grey rock (he’s an actual narcissist although we didn’t know that 30 years ago).

Being married to a narcissist would have been a nightmare to extract myself from.

but yes, on the whole, if you don’t have housing security of your own or you are giving up a large part of it absolutely get married whether you are male or female.

I think if was on my own now I wouldn’t get married again, very much doubt I’d be lucky enough to meet another MrNatty!

Pnnnd · 31/10/2025 17:22

lucya66 · 31/10/2025 16:54

Jesus don’t try and shame people for not being able to afford a wedding. My finances are none of your business to be fair.

My point was general. Weddings can be expensive. Don’t take it so literally just to win points on the internet? Why can’t anyone say anything on Mumsnet without some sour old witch jumping on with a snidey remark like “you don’t have £142.50 with you and your DP together?” so elitist and sneery about money. What if we don’t? Does that make you feel superior?

Happy Halloween.

I just said what the cost is to legally register a marriage. The minimum cost required just to sign the papers and get the marriage legally recognised. Those are the facts.

ConcordeSkyHigh · 31/10/2025 17:25

Mostly people get married to have children. It's better I.e more financial security.

YetAnotherAlias62 · 31/10/2025 17:26

There is one difference between marriage and civil partnership that I am aware of - it might not affect many people but it's important to be aware of it (especially if, like you, you're younger and might move abroad in future).

My understanding is that if you opt for a civil partnership and want to move to some countries bringing your other half with you, they might not recognise a UK civil partnership in the same way that they do a UK marriage (it depends on the country).
If that happened in your case, you can't just "upgrade" from a civil partnership to a marriage (unless you were a same sex couple who entered into your civil partnership before same sex marriage was legal in the UK). You would have to dissolve the civil partnership (a bit like a divorce) on the grounds that it had irretrievably broken down.
If you then subwequently applied to marry the same person, you would possibly be asked questions about whether you lied on your civil partnership dissolution application.....
So anyone considering a civil partnership should make sure they read the small print as - while it's pretty much the same as marriage when you're in the UK - it's not the same in other countries.....

Pnnnd · 31/10/2025 17:30

YetAnotherAlias62 · 31/10/2025 17:26

There is one difference between marriage and civil partnership that I am aware of - it might not affect many people but it's important to be aware of it (especially if, like you, you're younger and might move abroad in future).

My understanding is that if you opt for a civil partnership and want to move to some countries bringing your other half with you, they might not recognise a UK civil partnership in the same way that they do a UK marriage (it depends on the country).
If that happened in your case, you can't just "upgrade" from a civil partnership to a marriage (unless you were a same sex couple who entered into your civil partnership before same sex marriage was legal in the UK). You would have to dissolve the civil partnership (a bit like a divorce) on the grounds that it had irretrievably broken down.
If you then subwequently applied to marry the same person, you would possibly be asked questions about whether you lied on your civil partnership dissolution application.....
So anyone considering a civil partnership should make sure they read the small print as - while it's pretty much the same as marriage when you're in the UK - it's not the same in other countries.....

Edited

Yeah my internet search told me the exact same thing.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/10/2025 17:33

lucya66 · 31/10/2025 16:54

Jesus don’t try and shame people for not being able to afford a wedding. My finances are none of your business to be fair.

My point was general. Weddings can be expensive. Don’t take it so literally just to win points on the internet? Why can’t anyone say anything on Mumsnet without some sour old witch jumping on with a snidey remark like “you don’t have £142.50 with you and your DP together?” so elitist and sneery about money. What if we don’t? Does that make you feel superior?

Happy Halloween.

Sour old witch

How lovely. Misogynist and ageist! Well done.

There is nothing sneery whatsoever in pointing out that to get the legal protections of marriage is actually pretty cheap. It costs about the same as getting a passport. Most people can manage that. If you choose to remain unmarried and don't spend at least that much on getting wills drawn up, you are possibly storing up trouble for yourself. Best to be aware of these things.

OhDear111 · 31/10/2025 17:35

@NattyKnitter116 You cannot take away parental responsibility from a father. You can negotiate on contact.

CurlewKate · 31/10/2025 17:38

“sour old witch”? Jesus Christ, Mumsnet is horrible sometimes!

CryMyEyesViolet · 31/10/2025 17:38

SpottyAardvark · 31/10/2025 10:42

We have been together for 30+ years. We live together & own a house together but we are not married & have no plans to marry. We stay together because we both want to, not because we have entered into a contract to do so. I acknowledge that this arrangement may not suit most people, and would not necessarily recommend it to everyone, but we are not ‘most people’.

I didn’t marry my husband because I wanted a contract to stay with him. It isn’t that anyway as you can get divorced.

I married him because we’re one economic unit and a partnership and sometimes one of will earn more and sometimes it’ll be the other but I wanted to ensure that our contributions to the marriage were legally recognised as joint, particularly in the case of death or incapacitation.

And if we don’t stay together, I wanted there to be a legal framework to divide our assets.

I understand choosing to not get married, but if you’re not getting married because you don’t need to in order to stay together, you might want to double check that is the right decision for you as that’s not a rationale resale to not be married.

Pnnnd · 31/10/2025 17:39

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/10/2025 17:33

Sour old witch

How lovely. Misogynist and ageist! Well done.

There is nothing sneery whatsoever in pointing out that to get the legal protections of marriage is actually pretty cheap. It costs about the same as getting a passport. Most people can manage that. If you choose to remain unmarried and don't spend at least that much on getting wills drawn up, you are possibly storing up trouble for yourself. Best to be aware of these things.

Thank you I just pointed out the cost. £140 can be saved up. If both save £10 a month. After 7 months you have £1072 which is £140

TheaBrandt1 · 31/10/2025 17:47

To be fair if you don’t have £140 for a wedding it’s probably fine if you are not married as you would have very few assets and would likely be below the £325k threshold anyway.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/10/2025 17:47

NoctuaAthene · 31/10/2025 17:11

I don't agree that just because we've stopped explicitly mentioning religious or sexist things (or religion) in the ceremony of marriage that it exempts the whole institution and custom from being patriarchal in nature. The whole notion of marriage as a custom is rooted in concerns about property ownership, control of women and legitimacy of children which is all about protecting men and men's rights, and even the so-lovely 'protections' of marriage for women that are vaunted around a lot, are grounded in the assumption that women will be negatively impacted economically by childbirth and childrearing, will be financially dependent on their partner, won't have assets of their own etc. You only have to look at the most common traditions and customs that prevail around marriage (and yes yes I know you don't have to but the majority of people do the majority of these) to see it's definitely still sexist, the woman wearing white, the bride being given away or accompanied by her father, the men of the party (father of the bride, best man) doing the talking while the women stay silent, the woman changing her name while the man keeps his, it goes on.

It doesn't have to cost money to be just as 'protected', obviously it all depends on circumstance but for me the biggest way anyone can protect themselves is for both parties to retain an income as equal as possible, keep assets and savings in joint names or equal shares (or unequal shares if one party has given up remunerated work to raise children, a greater share of the capital can be put into their name as protection, depending on what the asset is this isn't necessarily expensive to do, e.g. houses it's simple tenants in common with a deed of trust explaining the split). Then if there is a break up it's if anything much easier and cheaper to manage compared to a contentious divorce as both parties simply keep their own assets and incomes (may still have to sort out maintenance of the children but that is an issue if married too)...

Wills can be made to avoid intestacy issues which you should do anyway even if married. Powers of attorney can be a good idea to protect against loss of capacity in old age (and again still a good idea even if married). Pension schemes and insurances will usually allow registration of an unmarried partner as beneficiary with no cost. The bit you can't really work around is the tax issue, which again isn't about it costing more to make arrangements, more that you pretty much have to get married for the state to recognize your relationship...

I'm not saying all this to put down or criticise those who do choose to get married, it can be a perfectly sensible and reasonable step, or to deny that there's useless commitment phobes out there who use excuses about not liking the institution of marriage to shirk their responsibilities. But I do think simply saying oh silly billies, modern marriage is nothing to do with the bad old days, just get married, is minimising the fact that some people genuinely do feel it's not something they want or need in their lives...

Edited

you pretty much have to get married for the state to recognize your relationship.

This is really all that needs to be said. If you want your relationship recognised in law, get married (or get a civil partnership). If you don't (and you fully understand the implications), don't. That's it.

We got married well over 40 years ago, in a registry office. There was no big white dress. My Dad didn't give me away. It was probably a minority choice back then but it wasn't vanishingly rare, and it's a lot more common now. I also see many references to speeches from women at the reception and to not changing name. Unfortunately, in the last 40 years the wedding industry has played a blinder and ended up convincing many people that they have to spend a small fortune on destination weddings, multiple stag and hen weekends, wedding favours and chairbacks or it's pointless even thinking about getting married. It isn't.

Pnnnd · 31/10/2025 17:48

Pnnnd · 31/10/2025 17:39

Thank you I just pointed out the cost. £140 can be saved up. If both save £10 a month. After 7 months you have £1072 which is £140

I tried to do multiplication using "*" and got this mistake

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 31/10/2025 17:53

CryMyEyesViolet · 31/10/2025 17:38

I didn’t marry my husband because I wanted a contract to stay with him. It isn’t that anyway as you can get divorced.

I married him because we’re one economic unit and a partnership and sometimes one of will earn more and sometimes it’ll be the other but I wanted to ensure that our contributions to the marriage were legally recognised as joint, particularly in the case of death or incapacitation.

And if we don’t stay together, I wanted there to be a legal framework to divide our assets.

I understand choosing to not get married, but if you’re not getting married because you don’t need to in order to stay together, you might want to double check that is the right decision for you as that’s not a rationale resale to not be married.

Sensible post. None of us know what's in the future, sadly. Having children especially can change how a relationship works and affect earning capacity. Makes sense to try to protect both parties within the law.

JG24 · 31/10/2025 19:00

YetAnotherAlias62 · 31/10/2025 17:26

There is one difference between marriage and civil partnership that I am aware of - it might not affect many people but it's important to be aware of it (especially if, like you, you're younger and might move abroad in future).

My understanding is that if you opt for a civil partnership and want to move to some countries bringing your other half with you, they might not recognise a UK civil partnership in the same way that they do a UK marriage (it depends on the country).
If that happened in your case, you can't just "upgrade" from a civil partnership to a marriage (unless you were a same sex couple who entered into your civil partnership before same sex marriage was legal in the UK). You would have to dissolve the civil partnership (a bit like a divorce) on the grounds that it had irretrievably broken down.
If you then subwequently applied to marry the same person, you would possibly be asked questions about whether you lied on your civil partnership dissolution application.....
So anyone considering a civil partnership should make sure they read the small print as - while it's pretty much the same as marriage when you're in the UK - it's not the same in other countries.....

Edited

You know I never thought of that. Thanks for letting me know as I thought I'd looked into all our options but this managed to pass me by.
I wonder if it'll ever impact us

JG24 · 31/10/2025 19:07

MissKitty0 · 31/10/2025 15:51

Wow what an angry seething person you are. What’s going on in your life to make you so volitile? Also do a tiny bit of research before such an angry response as they are absolutely NOT the exact same. Here are some of the differences in laws and entitlements:

  • Bereavement benefits: Married spouses qualify for full Bereavement Support Payment/Widowed Parent’s Allowance; civil partners qualify only if the deceased paid sufficient NI contributions after 2001 (earlier gaps may reduce or exclude entitlement).
  • Consummation: Marriage can be voided for non-consummation; civil partnership cannot be voided on this basis.
  • International recognition: Marriage universally recognized abroad; civil partnership often not (may affect immigration, inheritance, etc.).
  • Adultery as ground for dissolution: Adultery is a legal ground for divorce in marriage; it is not a ground for dissolving a civil partnership (behavior-based grounds only).
  • Presumption of parentage: Marriage presumes the husband is the father of any child born to the wife; civil partnership has no automatic presumption of parentage for the non-birth partner.

I thought marriages had been updated to match civil partnerships in terms of divorce now - and you no longer 'blame' someone or cite adultery?

Hercisback1 · 31/10/2025 19:08

MissKitty0 · 31/10/2025 15:51

Wow what an angry seething person you are. What’s going on in your life to make you so volitile? Also do a tiny bit of research before such an angry response as they are absolutely NOT the exact same. Here are some of the differences in laws and entitlements:

  • Bereavement benefits: Married spouses qualify for full Bereavement Support Payment/Widowed Parent’s Allowance; civil partners qualify only if the deceased paid sufficient NI contributions after 2001 (earlier gaps may reduce or exclude entitlement).
  • Consummation: Marriage can be voided for non-consummation; civil partnership cannot be voided on this basis.
  • International recognition: Marriage universally recognized abroad; civil partnership often not (may affect immigration, inheritance, etc.).
  • Adultery as ground for dissolution: Adultery is a legal ground for divorce in marriage; it is not a ground for dissolving a civil partnership (behavior-based grounds only).
  • Presumption of parentage: Marriage presumes the husband is the father of any child born to the wife; civil partnership has no automatic presumption of parentage for the non-birth partner.

Give over. You were trying to get one over on someone with a technicality about a civil partnership. They're pretty much the same thing and treated as such by the majority. Most people I know who have civil partnerships describe themselves as married.
But you do you and carry on being superior.

lucya66 · 31/10/2025 19:10

Pnnnd · 31/10/2025 17:22

I just said what the cost is to legally register a marriage. The minimum cost required just to sign the papers and get the marriage legally recognised. Those are the facts.

You didn’t just say a statement though about the legal cost. You asked a question, with a quesiton mark. It’s sneery.

It’s looking down on people who don’t have £142.50 to get married. As I said though, it’s none of your business if I do or don’t have £142 for a wedding.

Jk987 · 31/10/2025 19:19

I’m not married and I’m glad my assets are mine and don’t have to be split if things go wrong. We split mortgage and bills evenly.

TheaBrandt1 · 31/10/2025 19:19

Agree avoid CP if you a dual nationality or may live abroad clients got a CP he US citizen his state didn’t recognise it as marriage leading to tax / admin nightmare