Labour isn't working - Thread 15

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A chat thread for those who don't like this Labour government.

The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.

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I believe it's danger money rather than a salary. I wonder if it's enough to be considered as not a working person?! 🤔

I think it was a couple of weeks old as we watched it on iPlayer. It had JRM who was remarkably quiet when faced with the crap others were talking about.

Stop bragging.

I was send an advert for a job on a fishing boat once.

The only ship I've ever been on was the sightseeing boat from Westminster to Greenwich.

That's because we're easy targets, and less likely to vote Labour.

@CaveMum that TRIM with Laffer is great - and my goodness will politicians ever listen to the central message of many tax experts and economists that we should do away with all the special cases for a low basic rate…

that’s the thing tax and benefits these systems are now so complex that you need expert advice to navigate any of it. Plenty of carers terrified to get a few more hours of work due to exceeding limits for this or that benefit.

I can do a passable Sybil. I drive DS nuts when he's on the phone and I do a Sybil pretending to be on the other end.
It usually ends up with "oh koff mum" 🤣

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My husband has for years taken the piss out of me when I’m on the phone to friends. Or rather when I’ve come off the phone..

”Ooo I know. Ooo I know. Ooo I KNOW!

Ooh I know! 🤣🤣🤣

I know!🤣🤣🤣🤣

I wasn't a fan of Fawlty Towers but the "herds of wildebeest" really made me laugh. My late father used to love it. PS was my favourite, especially constantly doing her long-winded "yyeeees" on the phone. I enjoyed her other work, I remember her in Howard's End and The Ghost of Greville Lodge.

On the subject of the job, I think a lot of jobs are advertised as two years because that's when you get your employment rights. So they'll simply restructure and be able to employ a brand-new person with no rights. At least that's what I see in the private sector.

mum's carers are definitely balancing hours with universal credit. Also, I think one of them was about to buy a flat with her partner, and then suddenly said she couldn't. I'm guessing that's because you can't get UC towards accommodation if you have a mortgage. She seemed very excited about it and then she suddenly stopped.

We don't ask any nosy questions by the way! It's just what she was telling us and she was showing us what they were going to view.

I have a friend who tends to go on and on and on on the phone. She's in for a treat next time she does it!

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Just catching up with those of you commenting about your children interested in politics. DD is Yr 10 and DS Yr 7. These threads have made me question my voting history, especially @Legolava being a fellow teacher. Thank you.

As a (almost) lifelong Labour voter how can I introduce DD to politics without my previous bias showing? Hope I’m not derailing this!

@EmeraldRoulette yes it really traps people and discourages people maximising earnings.

A friends daughter has been notified her role is ‘at risk’ - yep, she works for Amazon - apparently there were are a lot of tears in the office, with people decamping to local pubs.

Never easy that.

Oh no, I'm sorry to hear that. I only saw the headline, but I wasn't sure how many of the job losses would be in the UK.

Yes, they have a big headcount in their City office - apparently the numbers for the chop are pretty chunky.

I know AI is mentioned in the media, but I see the consumer slowing down globally, so I wonder if that’s a more accurate reason.

I'm not sure how you could get them interested in politics.
I wouldn't worry about your bias having too much influence though. Dh and I vote differently, and our dc vote differently again to us. I like to think that hearing dh and I debate and disagree politely has taught them some tolerance and freedom of thought.

I don't have inside knowledge on Amazon, but I would expect it genuinely is AI. There's a race for AI dominance just now, and Amazon have always applied their technology to their own organisation first.

What does she do? Narrow focus, repetitive jobs - even fairly complex ones - are probably most at risk.

Labour's assault on the middle classes is part of a perfect storm. Scary times.

I tell them they should decide who to vote for and my personal view is not their’s.

They’re both quite interested in broad economic annd sometimes political issues. Not the superficial stuff though.

I am honestly not sure what she does there - middle office, I would imagine.
You are probably right re AI, but these are big numbers.

I do see consumption slowing down though - as it happens, this was just released ‘US consumer confidence slips to six-month low; worries over job availability rising‘

I would imagine that’s applicable to a number of countries in the west, including our beloved UK.

I saw that on Sky I think it was. Apparently they're shedding 14,000 jobs worldwide.
Sorry to hear your friend's daughter is caught up in it.

It’s everywhere at the moment isn’t it? I think the distinction is - people are not bouncing straight away into new gigs…from the handful of people I have known lose their jobs in the last 12 months, at least.

This isn't strictly a Labour problem (I'm prepared to be corrected); more about what seems to be a general decline in integrity, and I need to rant. Apologies in advance.

For the first time ever, we're having to make an insurance claim; the main water pipe into our house corroded and sprang a leak. The first we knew of it was when we came down one morning to squidgy floorboards and water surfacing when we stepped on them.

The plumber said the leakage could have been going in for weeks without being noticed as the pipework isn't visible, hence the extent of the damage. It's huge; apart from the sitting and drawing rooms, throughout the ground floor is wood flooring and it all needs to replaced once the drying phase has been completed, skirting boards will also need to be replaced, and the hall, stairs and landing will need to be redecorated.

It's a nightmare - and the contractors are not committing to saying the work will be completed by Christmas. 😬

Given the upheaval, DH has suggested that once the flooring has been reinstated it might be a good time to replace the carpets - at our own expense. I've been out this morning visiting a few carpet retailers with a view to getting quotes. Naturally, there have been discussions about when the work needs to be done, so I explained about the leak and was really taken aback at the "get it all done on the insurance, nudge, nudge, wink, wink" comments I've had from various sales people. One actually told me it was madness not to claim given the amount we must have paid in premiums over the years.

Have I just been unlucky or is this the kind of society we live in these days?